BFI - Clean Catch Crankcase Oil Separator - for 2.0T FSI!

[Kelion]

A catch can that empties to your oil pan is not ideal for a street driven vehicles.
The can not only catches oil vapors, but as a consequence of the design water vapor will accumulate in the catch can as well.
If this water was recirculated back into your oil pan, it would pollute the oil and reduce its ability to properly lubricate your engine.
Routine emptying of our Clean Catch products is required in order for the product to work correctly...

Is the Air/Oil Separator suitable for a stock/daily driver?- Yes... You can pull the intercooler off your new car with only 500 miles on it and find oil inside of it. The purpose of the AOS is to remove this oil from the intake system to lessen the possibility of detonation which is the main cause of broken ring lands on the stock pistons. As you increase your HP, the amount of blow by passing through your breather system increases as well. This scenario also increases the need for our AOS.

A catch can needs to be emptied of its hazardous waste on a regular basis. Our AOS needs ZERO maintenance. A catch can emits the unpleasant smell of the crankcase fumes. Our AOS doesn't smell and is emissions friendly. Most catch can systems end up leaking or spewing oil in/on your engine bay while our AOS keeps everything clean and tidy.

Also with oil not being removed from the pan, there is no worry of running low on oil whatsoever...also I don't personally know about the smell issue and maybe its more directed at VTA cans, but it's a good point nonetheless.

An regarding the moisture theory there is this:

3. What causes the yellow gunk? This is a mixture of oil and water. Usually when the water in the engine heats up it vaporizes and makes its way out the breather system. If it stays in vapor form it will make its way out the top of the AOS and into the intake. We have found from our cold weather customers that condensation is occurring inside our AOS as it is colder than the engine. This condensation is mixing with the oil in the AOS causing the yellow gunk. To fix this issue we have made a cold weather version that incorporates a heater inside the AOS to keep the AOS at the same temperature as the engine. With them being the same temperature, condensation will not occur leaving the water vapor to flow out the top of the AOS and into the intake system.

Now these replies are from a STi forum, but the physics and functionality are the same

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[pete@blackforest]

No more koozies!

[Krieger]

Is the Air/Oil Separator suitable for a stock/daily driver?- Yes... You can pull the intercooler off your new car with only 500 miles on it and find oil inside of it. The purpose of the AOS is to remove this oil from the intake system to lessen the possibility of detonation which is the main cause of broken ring lands on the stock pistons. As you increase your HP, the amount of blow by passing through your breather system increases as well. This scenario also increases the need for our AOS.

A catch can needs to be emptied of its hazardous waste on a regular basis. Our AOS needs ZERO maintenance. A catch can emits the unpleasant smell of the crankcase fumes. Our AOS doesn't smell and is emissions friendly. Most catch can systems end up leaking or spewing oil in/on your engine bay while our AOS keeps everything clean and tidy.

Also with oil not being removed from the pan, there is no worry of running low on oil whatsoever...also I don't personally know about the smell issue and maybe its more directed at VTA cans, but it's a good point nonetheless.

An regarding the moisture theory there is this:

3. What causes the yellow gunk? This is a mixture of oil and water. Usually when the water in the engine heats up it vaporizes and makes its way out the breather system. If it stays in vapor form it will make its way out the top of the AOS and into the intake. We have found from our cold weather customers that condensation is occurring inside our AOS as it is colder than the engine. This condensation is mixing with the oil in the AOS causing the yellow gunk. To fix this issue we have made a cold weather version that incorporates a heater inside the AOS to keep the AOS at the same temperature as the engine. With them being the same temperature, condensation will not occur leaving the water vapor to flow out the top of the AOS and into the intake system.

Now these replies are from a STi forum, but the physics and functionality are the same

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thought you contacted them, now it sounds like you ARE "them"...

cool pic, terrible beer!

[pete@blackforest]

cool pic, terrible beer!

The Koozies fit all makes and models.

[64Bettle]

excuse my ignorance but this is the same as a traditional catch can yes?

[pete@blackforest]

[pete@blackforest]

[pete@blackforest]

Our Show Season Kick-Off Promotion has ended.

[pete@blackforest]

[BETOGLI]

I would love to buy this Clean Catch Can since IMO it's the best looking on all the market!... The bad thing is that my car came with a Charcoal Canister! Do you have any application or solution for this?

[BETOGLI]

Bump!

[black forest ind]

I would love to buy this Clean Catch Can since IMO it's the best looking on all the market!... The bad thing is that my car came with a Charcoal Canister! Do you have any application or solution for this?

We are working on it, but its going to be some time before we expect it to be available. While this is for the rest of world cars everything outside the U.S. has a canister.

[BETOGLI]

We are working on it, but its going to be some time before we expect it to be available. While this is for the rest of world cars everything outside the U.S. has a canister.

Thanks for letting me know this! And for sure I'll buy two of them once they're realized!

[webcrawlr]

For the "average" customer what do you expect drain intervals to be?

[black forest ind]

For the "average" customer what do you expect drain intervals to be?

Unfortunately it varies a lot depending on the driver and their surrounding climate. At the very least you should check it at every oil change if not sooner. If the dipstick reads full, dump it.

[bryangb]

Call me a noob, but I have a question.

On the stock pcv it dumps the crank case pressure into the intake manifold, correct? With the catch can setup the intake manifold is capped off. After the oil is seperated the pressure looks to go back into the valve cover. Where does it go after that? Why cap the intake manifold? My main question is, where does the crankcase pressure go after the oil is seperated?

Total catch can noob and trying to wrap my head around it. Thanks

[black forest ind]

Call me a noob, but I have a question.

On the stock pcv it dumps the crank case pressure into the intake manifold, correct? With the catch can setup the intake manifold is capped off. After the oil is seperated the pressure looks to go back into the valve cover. Where does it go after that? Why cap the intake manifold? My main question is, where does the crankcase pressure go after the oil is seperated?

Total catch can noob and trying to wrap my head around it. Thanks

The 2.0T FSI has two pcv ports - that alternate direction depending on load and vacuum/boost level. Our system blocks off the pcv port to the manifold - or in reality - redirects it back through the port in the valve cover to the rear pcv port. That way all pcv gasses pass through the catch can before entering the intake tract. It also allows the pcv to maintain constant draw.

[bryangb]

The 2.0T FSI has two pcv ports - that alternate direction depending on load and vacuum/boost level. Our system blocks off the pcv port to the manifold - or in reality - redirects it back through the port in the valve cover to the rear pcv port. That way all pcv gasses pass through the catch can before entering the intake tract. It also allows the pcv to maintain constant draw.

Where does the rear pcv port dump?

[black forest ind]

Where does the rear pcv port dump?

The rear port attaches to the intake plumbing just above the turbo.

[pete@blackforest]

[pete@blackforest]

Our Waterfest Promotion has ended. Thanks for all the orders.

[pete@blackforest]

[MissUnderstood]

What are you guys doing with the rear hose off the valve cover. Doesn't that go right to the intake?

[pete@blackforest]

No more sunglasses. Thanks for all the orders!

[pete@blackforest]

Our H2O Promotion has ended!

[Slimjimmn]

wheres your mk4 / 1.8t catch can setups...

[pete@blackforest]

wheres your mk4 / 1.8t catch can setups...

Soon. We have a prototype coming and we'll have it installed on my 1.8t GLI.

[Slimjimmn]

Soon. We have a prototype coming and we'll have it installed on my 1.8t GLI.

I can install a prototype on my car ;-)

[pete@blackforest]

[pete@blackforest]

[pete@blackforest]

Our Black Friday Sale was a huge hit! Thanks everyone!

[BETOGLI]

... I need one... But my car has a Charcoal Canister!

[crew219]

Two weeks and it still hasn't shipped

[pete@blackforest]

Two weeks and it still hasn't shipped

We have been communicating with customers that were impacted by component delay and now, to the best of my knowledge, all Clean Catch orders have already shipped.
If you have not received your tracking number via e-mail, please send me a PM with your information and I will investigate the whereabouts of your order.

[crew219]

We have been communicating with customers that were impacted by component delay and now, to the best of my knowledge, all Clean Catch orders have already shipped.
If you have not received your tracking number via e-mail, please send me a PM with your information and I will investigate the whereabouts of your order.

I was sent tracking info on the 3rd which didn't move until you delivered it to USPS on the 5th.

Placed the order at 12:06AM on black friday. Should have been one of the first ones sent out. I received no such communication until I called in after a week of not receiving a tracking number. Was promised that my order would ship within the next two days. Took a week from that call for it to ship.

Dave