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    Thread: Phantom Autowerke air ride build thread

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      08-08-2011 10:51 AM #1
      I wanted to start this thread to share my experience of going through an air ride install from the beginning covering the good and the bad. Here's a quick run down of the vehicle and equipment being installed;

      2011 VW GTI
      Bagyard Supreme front struts
      Bagyard Classic rear bags
      Bilstein Sport rear shocks
      Accuair VU4 4 corner valve unit
      Accuair E-Level leveling system with TouchPad
      Accuair Key FOBs
      ViAir dual 444c compressors
      5 1-gallon air tanks
      Stainless steel hardlines throughout
      Dakota Digital Odyssey Series II, Quad Air Pressure Gauge

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      08-08-2011 11:00 AM #2
      This needs to come out


      All rear seats and panels removed


      Dynamat

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      08-08-2011 11:03 AM #3
      The compressors will be hidden in the rear quarter panels mounted on custom fabricated brackets.





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      08-08-2011 01:09 PM #6
      looks good Adam
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      08-08-2011 01:38 PM #7
      Lol ones a mobile w6 and ones a house w6 but still real nice

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      08-08-2011 01:59 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by limet View Post
      Lol ones a mobile w6 and ones a house w6 but still real nice
      Yeah, I was running only one for a while and then ordered the second a few weeks ago. Noticed the badges were different while installing the night before Waterfest...at 4:30am.

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      08-08-2011 02:43 PM #9
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    10. 08-08-2011 03:37 PM #10
      Lookn good adam. I'd look at putting some closed cell foam over the Dynamat. Dynamat is good for the high level stuff, but a foam will really help with rattles with vibrations/rattles, etc. -- especially around/under your compressors.

      for reference:

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    11. 08-08-2011 04:54 PM #11
      Yup, Ensolite or something similar to suppress noise, Dynamat and the like to suppress vibration (so the dynamat you already applied will definitely help).

      Best is a combo of the two, like this.

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      08-08-2011 06:19 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by John Reid View Post
      Yup, Ensolite or something similar to suppress noise, Dynamat and the like to suppress vibration (so the dynamat you already applied will definitely help).

      Best is a combo of the two, like this.
      HIGHLY recommend v-comp. I had 2 OB2's and after the vibration damper and v-comp i could not hear them when the car was at idle. And i only did the spare wheel well in the vibration absorber and the bottom of the false floor with the v-comp.

    13. 08-08-2011 07:01 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeeze View Post
      holy sub woofers
      x2

      i cant imagine how much power those draw
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      08-08-2011 08:26 PM #14
      Thanks for the sound deadening advice. Going to look further into it.

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      08-08-2011 08:41 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by DFWSKATE View Post
      x2

      i cant imagine how much power those draw
      Not as much as one of these


    16. 08-08-2011 09:33 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by aVWGTIguy View Post
      Thanks for the sound deadening advice. Going to look further into it.
      also, depending on how you are mounting the brackets for the compressors, rubber isolators for the mount points. mcmaster carr is your friend
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      08-08-2011 10:47 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by BklynMKV View Post
      also, depending on how you are mounting the brackets for the compressors, rubber isolators for the mount points. mcmaster carr is your friend

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      08-08-2011 11:33 PM #18
      Rubber vibration isolator idea




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      08-10-2011 10:38 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by andrew m. View Post
      Looks great, Adam!

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      08-14-2011 08:21 PM #20
      Wanted to update everyone with some more of the work that's been done and underway.

      Removed rear middle console to accommodate the 3-1 gallon tanks that will be mounted in a cascading setup.


      Peeled the "leather" on the rear seat to start building out the tray the will house the Accuair VU4. The housing will be fiberglassed, body paint-matched, and LED lit that will all really make the polished stainless hardlines stand out quite nicely.



      Also got the compressors mounted and installed in the rear quarter panels on custom brackets. The compressors' mounting feet were upgraded with over-sized rubber and after a quick vibration/sound check they were super quiet, even without the cover panels in place. These pics were taken before the panel were primed over.




      Oh, almost forgot, these came in



      I couldn't be happier with how things are going so far both on the install by Phantom Autowerke and the customer service from Andrew @ ORT.

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      08-14-2011 10:37 PM #21
      oh Phantom Autowerke, they quoted me 5-600 for a frame notch

      pimp my ride audio
      to ur choice in air ride parts

      wait wait wait... is that a typo? 5 1gallon air tanks!? why lol?
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    22. 08-15-2011 09:26 AM #22
      isolator looks good man. curious to check it out/

      you running dual OB2s?

      are you upgrading your alternator?
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    23. 08-15-2011 09:28 AM #23
      nvm -- saw that was an 'idea' lol

      (need more coffee)

      i think just getting some isolators and securely mounting it will work better. Building a frame is potentially just going to cause more points of vibration
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      08-15-2011 09:55 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by BklynMKV View Post
      nvm -- saw that was an 'idea' lol

      (need more coffee)

      i think just getting some isolators and securely mounting it will work better. Building a frame is potentially just going to cause more points of vibration
      We wired the comps up to check how much noise/vibration theyd be making and it's surprisingly quiet, even without the door panels in place. We're also wiring in fans just above the heads in series to keep them cool in there.

      Alt should be fine but may install a second battery.

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      08-15-2011 10:05 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowWabbit View Post
      oh Phantom Autowerke, they quoted me 5-600 for a frame notch

      pimp my ride audio
      to ur choice in air ride parts

      wait wait wait... is that a typo? 5 1gallon air tanks!? why lol?
      Hmm...I hope there was some sort of misunderstanding on that price

      The audio system is pretty cool and I like that when the hatch is closed everything is hidden in the cabin. When you open the hatch, well, it's not so hidden.

      Yep, 5 1 gal tanks.

    26. 08-15-2011 12:08 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by aVWGTIguy View Post
      We wired the comps up to check how much noise/vibration theyd be making and it's surprisingly quiet, even without the door panels in place. We're also wiring in fans just above the heads in series to keep them cool in there.

      Alt should be fine but may install a second battery.
      cool. yeah, one of the things thats prone to vibrating is the panels you'll be reinstalling, hence the ensolite or some other type of foam.

      dont think you'll need two batteries for the dual viairs. even the 400s are under the amp draw, unless of course you are keeping the 'system'
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      08-15-2011 08:37 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by BklynMKV View Post
      isolator looks good man. curious to check it out/

      you running dual OB2s?

      are you upgrading your alternator?
      Yup dual OB2's for now, going 4 on the next build

      The alternator was upgraded to a 200A/140Aidle for the dual and i am getting a 250A/175Aidle for the quad system, each pulling 35A should be just fine, might go brackets though and get a 350/250 for safe measure though but it will have to be a custom solution, not bolt on.

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      09-05-2011 08:24 PM #29
      These pics are only 3 of the 5 with the remaining 2 being countersunk into the bottom center cushion. The side ports on either side will be deleted and smoothed over for final paint. How the hardlines will connect all the tanks is still a bit up in the air but will probably be a fairly clean, somewhat complex look.




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      Ant is losing his hair over youre build, oh wait - he has none

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      I just wanna see the hardlines.
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    32. 09-07-2011 08:15 PM #32
      Looking sexy adam!!

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      10-10-2011 11:27 AM #34
      Hey - Been a while since my last update. The 5 tanks were finished up last night and, well, words can't really describe how awesome they came out so...





      And this is the center cradle they'll be sitting in that goes between the rear seats

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