Yes, but if someone with a bone stock car were to order this kit. To achieve the same numbers..
Conrod Bearings $595 + Install - Call it $1000
Exhaust + Highflow Cats - $2000 + Install (I think that's what you quoted me for my MK5.. I am am sure the MK4 isn't any cheaper)
So now it's a $12,595 dollar kit, plus install.
Just trying to point out the costs that these kits are not cheap no matter how you slice them, and no matter who makes them.
Agreed..we did this for the switch we sell on the MK5 and the Super Flow charts said it all!
We will make the same for the Gen 1 now and update our web! Thx for the idea!
For the MK4 crowd, not having to relocate the battery to the rear now and the simplicity for MK4/5 of the integrated intercooler will mean a lot of $ pulled away from the install costs..Actually, the home done installations are looking very attractive now!
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Why do you need those bearings? Just buy some 3.2/3.6 VR6 FSI Rod bearings....they are a black teflon coating as standard....and fit the VR6/R32 rods perfectly.
I pulled my 40k mile ones out and you can't even tell they have been used. This was also after running the 3.6 at 7psi and 450hp....
MK4 R36 x Precision 6776 Turbo = Large Grin
Today, we are GT35 based for all 20th kits.. Not an R35 though, this is a new hybrid with a conical waste gate exit.
We love it too..not sure if the R8 owner would be so happy though
How about an official FT465 over 20th graph?
Marcel, it's nice to see you excited.
Pro/Con over previous A/W setup. Obviously, the 20th has a shorter boost track. But what about actual charge cooling results?
Obviously, I'm just trying to see the difference between my existing setup and the new and improved kit.
What components would be upgradable from a FT465 kit? Would the new turbo fit the existing manifold etc.?
A friend of mine saw the RS R32 yesterday evening, I believe the owner of the car was going for a rip around Surrey. He said the car had a great exhaust note and that the turbo appeared to spool up very nicely - he also seemed very pleased with the car from a brief conversation they had at a set of lights.
Just let me know when the kit and install is onsale for half price for locals and I'll be there in 10 minutes or less!
FT425/FT495 vs 20th
FT465/FT495 vs 20th
Out of the box, the 20th seems to realize FT465+ output with ease. We will now upgrade to 88mm exhaust from the 2.5APR can it currently has installed and see if we can hold the FT495 19lbs of boost on 91 and dyno the output. The car is currently in Portland ripping around for a few weeks, so look for this update mid September. We are satisfied for now as the headroom is qualified and the current software trim is producing above expectations.
This intake alone will allow any FT360 owner to realize FT450 performance with the add on of the larger MAF and inline fuel pump. It should be a very straight fo4rward upgrade. The FT360 had the best throttle response, you retain that but with the full intercooler benefit!
Here are a few cool shots that show off the new downpipe/exhaust manifold that were designed for this package. The cylinder separation inside the manifolds is key for both MK4 and MK5 DSG. It allows us to trim the fuel specific to the cylinder groupings.
The VR6 is simply a one off engine design within the automotive industry. When you try to create a solid single turbo solution, you encounter the challenges associated with it.
With one bank having 2 front cylinders and 1 rear, and the other O2 bank controlling 2 rear and one front, there needs to be a living offset in fuel to ensure that the exhaust valves stay cool.
To fight the degraded fuel mixtures around North America, we offset the turbo to accommodate a radius within our downpipe. This further reduced back pressure allowing us to runner slightly higher boost than on our previous generation packages.
I dont have 12 G's but i will tell u i would like the manifold. Skela and others have always said that these kits have been all about maintaining a stock look. Well This kit actually looks as thought it cam from the factory. I really really like it. So to you.
Oh man! Please offer that exhaust manifold a la carte!
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Any chance of offering the exhaust manifold a la carte for those who want to go the EFR route?
What would be interesting is if HPA offered "tuner" kits, basically no fuel system or software so the customer could do whatever they wanted there. HorsepowerFreaks in Portland recently started doing that with their E46 M3 kit due to the amount of customers who wanted to go ProEFI and run flexfuel (e85)..
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BTW, whats with the Zebra hose clamps on the throttle body, no T-bolt clamps? Those are actually holding under boost? I suppose with the small amount of hose it doesn't swell much. I have to run T-bolt clamps to keep from popping my boost hoses off.
I'll let the customer come on here and give out his identity if he so desires.
And the clamps are on in the dyno run video, it appears they stayed on! We have not had an issue of popping off boost hoses with this setup.
As for the clamps, as Keir points out, sine 1999, we have been using Wurth clamps without issues. A key however is that each connection features a machined valley for the clamp to bed into. On our high boost applications, we even machine the throttle bodies.
T-clamps are better. I've never had an issue. However, for the limited cost difference... Clamps are a simple thing to change to increase perceived value for potential new customers.
Marcel, Thanks for posting up the comparison dyno's. I'm curious to see what kinda of number it would throw down on 93 with meth. It appears to have the potential to put my present configuration to shame quite easily... ERRR... LOL
FT465 13.5PSI (peak boost) with meth AWHP
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