Euro Headlight Switch

[CC RReflex]

I recently purcahsed a CC and would like to upgrade to the euro light switch but do not know how to go about doing it. I would appreciate if someone can post a write up of how to get this completed so everything will be functional. Thanks.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...adlight-switch

[phantom2010]

Well first obviously you need the switch, takes no effort to install, pull the old one out and put the new in. You'll need help with someone with VAG to turn off your DRL and activate rear fogs if you want those, in which case you'll need the trigger wire as well. I didn't do that portion as I didn't care about the rear fogs, but some do. I think there are a few how to posts on here regarding it.

[instigator31]

So follow up dumb question...if I don't mess with the VAG tool at first, will my lights still work as normal with the new euro switch ?

Assuming I will gain the parking lights as the only "new feature"

Will my old front fogs still work?

Or with the new switch break everything unless you have the VAG software, etc.

Thanks guys!

[phantom2010]

So follow up dumb question...if I don't mess with the VAG tool at first, will my lights still work as normal with the new euro switch ?

Assuming I will gain the parking lights as the only "new feature"

Will my old front fogs still work?

Or with the new switch break everything unless you have the VAG software, etc.

Thanks guys!

I think if you install the switch but don't do any VAG work there won't be anything different.

[Mr Neon]

If you got the switch with the "AUTO" feature things will operate as normal from factory settings. You will gain the parking lights as an addition and still retain your front fogs. For rea fogs and DRL you need to use VagCom and a trigger wire.

[instigator31]

If you got the switch with the "AUTO" feature things will operate as normal from factory settings. You will gain the parking lights as an addition and still retain your front fogs. For rea fogs and DRL you need to use VagCom and a trigger wire.

Cool thank you very much!

[BsickPassat]

you don't gain parking lights by just popping in a new euroswitch. The electronics don't allow for it. It will require some VCDS tweaking. (and hopefully 2012's don't get cursed with MK6 wiring)

And sometimes the light switch gets jammed due to the Passat dash... so you have to assist it buy opening the cubby under the switch, snake your arm in and help push it out from behind. It's easier to do than it reads.

[Mr Neon]

you don't gain parking lights by just popping in a new euroswitch. The electronics don't allow for it. It will require some VCDS tweaking. (and hopefully 2012's don't get cursed with MK6 wiring)

And sometimes the light switch gets jammed due to the Passat dash... so you have to assist it buy opening the cubby under the switch, snake your arm in and help push it out from behind. It's easier to do than it reads.

On my 2012, I did nothing and got the parking lights. I installed the Euro switch with the AUTO feature. I did add 2 trigger wires , one for front fogs and one for rear but I am still working on getting that mod done. Turned my DRL on and off through VagCom and it did not effect the operation of the switch both in AUTO, parking or lights full on.

As for installing the switch, removing the cubby under the dash did make it easier to access.

[instigator31]

Hopefully I will get my switch in a day or so and I will confirm more 2012 wackiness

[Mr Neon]

Hopefully I will get my switch in a day or so and I will confirm more 2012 wackiness

From what I am learning through my mods, it is total wackiness!!

Installing the parts is the easy part...programming or lack of finding the right programming has been the nightmare..

[CC RReflex]

I appreciate the insight from everyone. I am planning on swapping the switch soon and I will need to find someone who is local who may be able to assist with the swap. If anyone else has done this on a 2012 successfully please post the details. Thanks again!

[BsickPassat]

where in NJ are you?

[zmcmahan]

So follow up dumb question...if I don't mess with the VAG tool at first, will my lights still work as normal with the new euro switch ?

Assuming I will gain the parking lights as the only "new feature"

Will my old front fogs still work?

Or with the new switch break everything unless you have the VAG software, etc.

Thanks guys!

I can confirm that you can easily just swap the switch and plug the harness in. This will keep all features the same, but will also add parking lights. Rear fogs and front fogs as Mr. Neon stated are easy enough to hook up the switch, but the coding for the 2012s has proven to be a bear. As far as I know, no one has gotten front or rear fogs to work "correctly" on a 2012.

[zmcmahan]

I appreciate the insight from everyone. I am planning on swapping the switch soon and I will need to find someone who is local who may be able to assist with the swap. If anyone else has done this on a 2012 successfully please post the details. Thanks again!

The physical swap of the switch is rediculously simply. Just put the switch in the off position, push the knob in, then turn counter clockwise, and it will pop out, pull it out, disconnect the harness, reconnect to new switch, and pop back in. It does help if you let the cubby below hang down by just pushing the plastic piece on the cubby underneath the plastic piece on the dash. This gives you more room to work under there.

If you are also talking about the coding, I don't believe anyone has successfully gotten the coding right for front and rear fogs for the 2012. Mr. Neon is close I believe to rear fogs, and front fogs have required some "sacrifices," mainly cornering lights.

[Hawk443]

Ok. Noob question, but what exactly does a Euro switch do for you? I assume that it's better but....

[zmcmahan]

Ok. Noob question, but what exactly does a Euro switch do for you? I assume that it's better but....

It allows you to activate just parking lights. It also has the pull out stops for activating rear fog lights and front fog lights...with VAG coding and retrofitting the hardware (for front fog lights).

[Mr Neon]

What I am learning and discovering with the 2012 models without fogs is basically coming down to program issue with the newer BCM's. I believe the ability it there to install the front fogs (I have them in and working at one time for a test) , but the coding to change the current BCM is I believe unknown or buried. I have done a few test so to speak and come up with nothing true to a factory 2012 CC with fogs (R-Line model) but I think I am getting closer.

[instigator31]

WOW !

Ok, so my swith came today (happened to be working from home)

Of course, HAD TO INSTALL ASAP!

Install took 39 seconds, thanks to research on threads and friends previous advice, so thanks guys!

A suprising after effect as well. I NOW HAVE FOGS and Daytime Running Lights with no software programming.

HOW - well remember I have stock fogs in my 2012 RLINE. The new "parking" light feature on the Euroswitch turns off the main lights and turns on the parking lights only. THEN you can pull out 1 click to get the FRONT fogs to come one. MAGIC!

Everthing works normally, of course except the REAR FOGS, which I need the trigger wire for (coming in the mail soon I hope)

Anyways, just wanted to report this MAGIC!

[zmcmahan]

WOW !

Ok, so my swith came today (happened to be working from home)

Of course, HAD TO INSTALL ASAP!

Install took 39 seconds, thanks to research on threads and friends previous advice, so thanks guys!

A suprising after effect as well. I NOW HAVE FOGS and Daytime Running Lights with no software programming.

HOW - well remember I have stock fogs in my 2012 RLINE. The new "parking" light feature on the Euroswitch turns off the main lights and turns on the parking lights only. THEN you can pull out 1 click to get the FRONT fogs to come one. MAGIC!

Everthing works normally, of course except the REAR FOGS, which I need the trigger wire for (coming in the mail soon I hope)

Anyways, just wanted to report this MAGIC!

Going to need more than a trigger wire to get rear fogs on a 2012. If you figure out what that "more" is...please let us know.

[instigator31]

Going to need more than a trigger wire to get rear fogs on a 2012. If you figure out what that "more" is...please let us know.

Oh yes, sorry I knew that. Meaning I need a trigger wire and programming.

I assume though it does not work as easily as the previous years....so I am meeting up with another forum member to see if we (well he) can figure it out.

[zmcmahan]

Oh yes, sorry I knew that. Meaning I need a trigger wire and programming.

I assume though it does not work as easily as the previous years....so I am meeting up with another forum member to see if we (well he) can figure it out.

Cool. Keep us posted. By the way, I got my trigger wire at my local dealer for $7 and change. They said they usually stock them.

[romney]

[zmcmahan]

Nice! That's awesome. Good work.

[ozfst]

WOW !

Ok, so my swith came today (happened to be working from home)

Of course, HAD TO INSTALL ASAP!

Install took 39 seconds, thanks to research on threads and friends previous advice, so thanks guys!

A suprising after effect as well. I NOW HAVE FOGS and Daytime Running Lights with no software programming.

HOW - well remember I have stock fogs in my 2012 RLINE. The new "parking" light feature on the Euroswitch turns off the main lights and turns on the parking lights only. THEN you can pull out 1 click to get the FRONT fogs to come one. MAGIC!

Everthing works normally, of course except the REAR FOGS, which I need the trigger wire for (coming in the mail soon I hope)

Anyways, just wanted to report this MAGIC!

This is not really fogs as DRLs sice your parking lights are on in addition to the fogs.

[vdubbia]

So are rear fogs already in stock CC's, they are just not wired to turn on?

I remember with my MK5 Jetta that I had to order the light kit with the fogs. Is this not necessary with the CC?

[SlavaKM]

Guys,
can someone confirm for me if this will or will not work with the 2012 CC?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-GO...#ht_4752wt_954

ECS sells a slightly different part number, but i think the difference is only the country of origin.
Ebay is made in CN while ECS in Mexico.

Obviously 40$ price difference is the reason im asking.
If you have a tip to a different site i can purchase from would be much appreciated.

TIA.

[Mr Neon]

I am still working on getting fogs and rear fogs for the 2012 Sports...not much luck as of late. Tried a lot of testing and got nothing good except the factory wiring schematic is NOT exact or near what the car is..

I was wondering though..on the Vagcom for the 2012 R-Lines, the bit that is used for front fogs installed is not checked yet the fogs work on just the R-lines models...I am wondering if there is some type of factory relay needed since the actual wiring for the fogs is connected to the cornering lights on the 2012 Sport models. Maybe it switches between fogs/cornering lights via the Euro switch?

[Hawk443]

Guys,
can someone confirm for me if this will or will not work with the 2012 CC?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-GO...#ht_4752wt_954

ECS sells a slightly different part number, but i think the difference is only the country of origin.
Ebay is made in CN while ECS in Mexico.

Obviously 40$ price difference is the reason im asking.
If you have a tip to a different site i can purchase from would be much appreciated.

TIA.

Yeah, I'd like to know the best place to buy one as well (for a 2011)....

[ozfst]

I would say ECS Tuning is the best place. they have all the euro switches and the jump wire as well.

[VdubTX]

Guys,
can someone confirm for me if this will or will not work with the 2012 CC?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-GO...#ht_4752wt_954

ECS sells a slightly different part number, but i think the difference is only the country of origin.
Ebay is made in CN while ECS in Mexico.

Obviously 40$ price difference is the reason im asking.
If you have a tip to a different site i can purchase from would be much appreciated.

TIA.

Yeah, I'd like to know the best place to buy one as well (for a 2011)....

I can confirm that the switch listed in the ebay link above will work, that is the same part number that I have installed in mine. Got my switch from Vaglink.com about 6 months ago now.

[VdubTX]

I am still working on getting fogs and rear fogs for the 2012 Sports...not much luck as of late. Tried a lot of testing and got nothing good except the factory wiring schematic is NOT exact or near what the car is..

I was wondering though..on the Vagcom for the 2012 R-Lines, the bit that is used for front fogs installed is not checked yet the fogs work on just the R-lines models...I am wondering if there is some type of factory relay needed since the actual wiring for the fogs is connected to the cornering lights on the 2012 Sport models. Maybe it switches between fogs/cornering lights via the Euro switch?

Although the 2012 have wiring changed from the 2011, I would bet that the 2012 Sports would need an extra relay similar to how I had to wire my 2011 Sport.

Check the link in my signature for the install thread I did for my 11 Sport.

[SlavaKM]

I can confirm that the switch listed in the ebay link above will work, that is the same part number that I have installed in mine. Got my switch from Vaglink.com about 6 months ago now.

You are the man!
Thanks so much for checking.

[Mr Neon]

Although the 2012 have wiring changed from the 2011, I would bet that the 2012 Sports would need an extra relay similar to how I had to wire my 2011 Sport.

Check the link in my signature for the install thread I did for my 11 Sport.

Checked your link and got all the parts to do the mod before I realized the wiring was different. Everything works except the relay...don't need it but something is missing since the front fogs enable in Vagcom only turn on the cornering lights in the Sport models

I wish I could find a way to figure that out for sure...Again, all I know is that the coding for the 2012 R-Lines with factory fogs does not have the front fogs installed bit checked but yet it still works as well as the cornering lights.

[Hawk443]

I can confirm that the switch listed in the ebay link above will work, that is the same part number that I have installed in mine. Got my switch from Vaglink.com about 6 months ago now.

Thanks. Vaglink.com is just a bunch of links to VW parts websites. Do you know exactly who you bought it from?

[instigator31]

This is not really fogs as DRLs sice your parking lights are on in addition to the fogs.

Yes, correct...but hey better than nothing...and what is wrong with the parking lights on anyways