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    08-13-2011 10:16 PM #1
    Well, I put the Neuspeed RSB from my TTS on today. I'll be taking it off tomorrow. The little bolts that attach the right half shaft to the differential make contact with the bar. I never would have thought there was a difference between the TTS and RS diff. I only noticed when I backed it out of the garage. Hits slightly under load. Grrr. Take a look...

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    08-14-2011 12:11 AM #2
    Yikes. Glad you found out so quickly after installing.

    Do you have any more pictures of the diff itself? I wonder what the differences are.

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    08-14-2011 12:48 AM #3
    Interesting.. I mentioned this a while ago as my dealer told me there was some serious differences down there (can't remember the list)..

    Definitely lucky you found sooner rather than later!!

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    08-14-2011 08:46 AM #4
    I'm a terrible photographer. None of my pics look that good. All I have is a little point and shoot digital. I'll see what I can do.
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    08-14-2011 09:19 AM #5
    Make sure the Neuspeed guys know....they pride themselves in quality and fit....What size was the original bar? Wonder what the "stiffness" difference is?
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    08-14-2011 10:45 AM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by GaBoYnFla View Post
    Make sure the Neuspeed guys know....they pride themselves in quality and fit....What size was the original bar? Wonder what the "stiffness" difference is?
    well if it wasnt listed under TTRS on their website, they have nothing to worry about nor are they liable for compatibility issues

    regardless that sucks Domm
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    08-14-2011 02:35 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    I'm a terrible photographer. None of my pics look that good. All I have is a little point and shoot digital. I'll see what I can do.
    How about some under-body comparison pics of the differential area of the TTS and TT-RS for comparison?
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    08-14-2011 08:48 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by GaBoYnFla View Post
    Make sure the Neuspeed guys know....they pride themselves in quality and fit....What size was the original bar? Wonder what the "stiffness" difference is?
    It was their 25mm rear bar for TT Quattros.
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    08-14-2011 08:50 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSandeman View Post
    well if it wasnt listed under TTRS on their website, they have nothing to worry about nor are they liable for compatibility issues
    I think his point was that they would want to know, just in case anyone asked them. Also, they wouldn't want to advertise that it fits.

    The bummer is that I'm not sure if they will make a bar that fits considering the low volume of cars.
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    08-14-2011 08:51 PM #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Marty View Post
    How about some under-body comparison pics of the differential area of the TTS and TT-RS for comparison?
    I took some of the RS, but I don't have the TTS anymore.
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    08-14-2011 10:00 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    I think his point was that they would want to know, just in case anyone asked them. Also, they wouldn't want to advertise that it fits.

    The bummer is that I'm not sure if they will make a bar that fits considering the low volume of cars.
    Exactly.....I've know the Neuspeed folks a long time....they've always been good to me.
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    08-14-2011 10:29 PM #12
    Didn't Jason have a webisode about installing a RSW?? I imagine there are shots of the underside of his TTS.....
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    08-15-2011 10:56 AM #13
    Here's some pics of the rear diff.









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    08-15-2011 11:04 AM #14
    This is what happened to the bar...

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    08-15-2011 11:31 AM #15
    Domm was rubbing against you're axel? I'm curious to know what are the differences other than the obvious btw the RS and the TT/TTS


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    08-15-2011 06:32 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSandeman View Post
    Domm was rubbing against you're axel? I'm curious to know what are the differences other than the obvious btw the RS and the TT/TTS


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    If you look at the first photo, the torx screws that are protruding from the rear diff on the right side were hitting the bar when the suspension was compressed...on the ground. Those pics are with the car on jacks and the wheels hanging.

    I think the difference is either the screws/bolts or just the dimensions of the equipment connecting the rear halfshafts to the differential. Just a small difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    If you look at the first photo, the torx screws that are protruding from the rear diff on the right side were hitting the bar when the suspension was compressed...on the ground. Those pics are with the car on jacks and the wheels hanging.

    I think the difference is either the screws/bolts or just the dimensions of the equipment connecting the rear halfshafts to the differential. Just a small difference.
    Maybe the RS has beefier half-shafts to deal with the extra torque?

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    08-15-2011 06:39 PM #18
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    If you look at the first photo, the torx screws that are protruding from the rear diff on the right side were hitting the bar when the suspension was compressed...on the ground. Those pics are with the car on jacks and the wheels hanging.

    I think the difference is either the screws/bolts or just the dimensions of the equipment connecting the rear halfshafts to the differential. Just a small difference.

    ah i see... being that the RSB is of a tubular design, im assuming it wouldnt be a great idea to grind it down a bit for clearing the rear diff bolts.... now a solution
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    08-15-2011 09:51 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLZ7W View Post
    Maybe the RS has beefier half-shafts to deal with the extra torque?
    It probably does. But I think this problem illustrated that the connection to the rear diff is beefed up.
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    08-15-2011 11:42 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    Here's some pics of the rear diff.

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    What's that belt driving back there??
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    08-16-2011 12:32 AM #21
    Well,
    am glad you checked as many in the UK 'assume' TTS parts can be fitted on the TT-RS...it is the other way round iften i.e. TT-RS parts to fit TTS...so best stick to TT-RS specific item if for nothing else mainly due to the increased power and weight that these parts will have to deal with.

    Also note that the rear ARB should be 22mm MAX else it will rub against other parts. We found H&R ARBs were best fit...there is a specific 24mm front and 22mm rears that you will need. I do not have the part numbers however I understand there is only one 24mm & 22mm for the TT-RS range.

    AM not aware of any TT-RS owner who has fitted a different brand - I think H&R have got that particular business wrapped up and it does work very well.

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    08-16-2011 08:38 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Marty View Post
    What's that belt driving back there??
    That's not a belt. It's on the end of the input shaft going into the rear diff. Prolly some kind of balancer. It's metal, not rubber.
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    08-16-2011 08:40 PM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by 996cab View Post
    Well,
    am glad you checked as many in the UK 'assume' TTS parts can be fitted on the TT-RS...it is the other way round iften i.e. TT-RS parts to fit TTS...so best stick to TT-RS specific item if for nothing else mainly due to the increased power and weight that these parts will have to deal with.

    Also note that the rear ARB should be 22mm MAX else it will rub against other parts. We found H&R ARBs were best fit...there is a specific 24mm front and 22mm rears that you will need. I do not have the part numbers however I understand there is only one 24mm & 22mm for the TT-RS range.

    AM not aware of any TT-RS owner who has fitted a different brand - I think H&R have got that particular business wrapped up and it does work very well.
    I forget what the stock RSB dimension is. Do you know? 22mm doesn't seem like such an upgrade. The Neuspeed bar was significantly bigger than stock.

    I bet that with a different shape, a 25mm bar will fit.
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    08-17-2011 05:06 PM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    I forget what the stock RSB dimension is. Do you know? 22mm doesn't seem like such an upgrade. The Neuspeed bar was significantly bigger than stock.

    I bet that with a different shape, a 25mm bar will fit.
    The stock is 19mm front & 17mm rears if my memory serves me right.

    The 24mm front / 22mm rear upgrade is large enough we have all found. Those who went larger came back to 24 / 22 due to rubbing issues.

    I originally went 26mm front / 24mm rear and it rubbed so stuck to convention...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 996cab View Post
    The stock is 19mm front & 17mm rears if my memory serves me right.

    The 24mm front / 22mm rear upgrade is large enough we have all found. Those who went larger came back to 24 / 22 due to rubbing issues.

    I originally went 26mm front / 24mm rear and it rubbed so stuck to convention...!
    Neuspeed told me they knew it would rub. They aren't sure if they will make an RS bar. I hope so.
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    08-17-2011 11:15 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDomm View Post
    Neuspeed told me they knew it would rub. They aren't sure if they will make an RS bar. I hope so.
    Do they know what the reason is for the change in dimensions down there (what'd Audi change on the TT-RS)?
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    01-21-2012 04:44 PM #27
    Hey DrDromm, did you solve your sway bar issues? I hear H&R makes a compatible bar, but I haven't found confirmed evidence of a well-fitting bar for the TT-RS.
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    The model number for the 24mm front and 22mm rear H&R sway bar kit for the TT-RS is: 33220-2

    I haven't really tried to get these yet, but was told that emailing export@h-r.com may help. Otherwise contact your normal H&R dealer and ask if they can get this part number. When you search, it only comes for overseas dealers.

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    Subscribed. Very good flow of information here. Sorry to hear about your difficulties DrDomm.
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    01-23-2012 09:01 PM #30
    I spoke to a H&R rep sometime last week.
    He mentioned that they really don't have anything for thge RS at this moment.
    He suspected it probably won't be until another 6 months from now when they do a press release on TT-RS suspension parts...

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    01-23-2012 11:19 PM #31
    Quote Originally Posted by dogdrive View Post
    I spoke to a H&R rep sometime last week.
    He mentioned that they really don't have anything for thge RS at this moment.
    He suspected it probably won't be until another 6 months from now when they do a press release on TT-RS suspension parts...
    The question is, does the H&R rear bar for the regular Mk2 TT fit the TT-RS (since it has a different Haldex shape).
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    Subscribed. Very good flow of information here. Sorry to hear about your difficulties DrDomm.
    I'm ok I actually sold that bar to someone here. I was hoping Neuspeed would just modify the bar they sell, so that it will fit TT/TTS/TTRS.
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    01-24-2012 11:27 AM #33
    Shox.com supplied the H&R sways to me!

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    01-24-2012 11:40 AM #34
    Did you buy H&R model number 33220-2 from shox.com?

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    includes the 24mm frt and 22 mm rear. Both are 2 hole adjustable. Going on my TT RS with H&R lowering springs P/N 29102-2 - .7 inch drop.Also have the adjustable drop links from 034 Motorsport. These will allow the install w/o any preload on the rear bar.I you preload the rear bar your car will be bouncy!

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