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      08-15-2011 09:56 AM #1
      I wanted to ask about these Coilovers. I have been reading multiple forums about these Raceland. Nothing negative from anyone who bought them but alot of negativity from people that say the price is too cheap. I have never had any coilovers on my car before and trying to get a gauge about them. Also I have a 09 Jetta that only has the flash on it. No other modifications. And this is the next way I wanted to go. Please advise.

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      08-15-2011 10:42 AM #2
      I have never owned a set of this (nor will I ever), but I have driven several cars (MkII's-MkIV's) with Racelands/Ultimos/Rokkors. These coilovers handle and ride like absolute garbage. Secondly, there are countless threads about issues people have with them. If you are interested in a car that handles and rides like crap, but is low, then these coilovers are for you.

      My best advice is to find someone local (local forums, gtg, autox event etc) that has these or similar coilovers (Rokkor/Ultimos) and ask them to take you out for a spin. For comparison, find someone else that has a proper setup (Koni, etc. coilovers or a spring/shock combo that is at proper ride height). The difference should be very clear.


      Threads just from the first page of the Suspension Tuning forum that are Raceland specific:

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...d-ultimos-pics

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...hich-Coilovers

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...h-problems-lol

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-helper-spring

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...bing-on-my-17s

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      08-15-2011 10:49 AM #3
      I guess the weird part is the Shop I got the ECU flash done at recommeded it to me. I never heard of them before and they recommended it to me. They stated that they put it on a friends car and it had no issues. It rode smooth. Thats the reason for me asking. I didnt know if it was a hit or miss with the rims, or if the people that had them was slamming their car down on the floor.

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      08-15-2011 08:16 PM #4
      The shop is trying to make a buck... I'll bet that the shop doesn't have any cars that they track?

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      08-16-2011 10:04 AM #5
      Do yourself the favor and listen to Mr. Nightrider's advice. Racelands are novelty coilovers. Don't waste your time with them. And most of the guys who say they ride great have never ridden on quality coils. I'm going to continue to plug Koni's here because I have driven on them daily for over 2 years and the ride/performance is excellent. They're built well, were straight forward to install and have a lifetime warranty. Do it right the first time and you'll be happy you did so.

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      08-17-2011 10:22 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by DC Jetta Guy View Post
      Don't waste your time with them. And most of the guys who say they ride great have never ridden on quality coils.
      This really really really is a key point.


      Get some seat time in someones car that has a Koni setup, like I said, the difference should be very obvious.

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      08-21-2011 06:37 PM #7
      I just installed a set of Racelands on a customers car that they brought in and was NOT impressed with the quality of product. They are visibly inferior.
      They do drop the car alot, 2.75 inches lower is what we set it at with another 2in available. But its easy to see they wont last longer than a few years, especially if you have any kind of winter weather and salt roads.

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      08-21-2011 10:27 PM #8
      screw it bro..are you going to go do some autocross? are you gonna be racing on a track and crap? if you got the 389$ to blow do it. you'll be sittin low and it will look good. obviously if you are gonna be flyin around like andretti get yerself a 1k+ setup..otherwise, who the F is gonna care, they'll say "dang that crap is dumped" I bought a set last week they're comin in tuesday i'll tell ya what I think of em.
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      08-23-2011 10:50 PM #9
      you've never heard negatives from people that have them???? well i have them and let me tell you they are the worst. its like buying a honda "you get what you pay for". its like having solid beams as your suspension. but now im use to them so i don't care. but everyone elses car feels like a hover craft

    10. 08-27-2011 11:42 PM #10
      I went from the pro damper system to ultimos and they ride almost the same. No regrets in getting them. People bash them because they buy $2k coilovers for daily driving that are almost as good.

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      08-28-2011 04:39 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by arashb View Post
      People bash them because they buy $2k coilovers for daily driving that are almost as good.
      Lol, I hear this argument quite often and it just doesn't hold any water. I do not have $2k coilovers yet I'd prefer stock suspension over ultimos/raceland/etc any day of the week.

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      03-10-2012 09:46 AM #12
      I can only speak from experience, which is fk streetlines and weitecs in mk4s. I had a set of streetlines a year ago in my 20th. They had a few thousand miles on them, not slammed, helpers and all that were in. Just a little drop and they were so damn bouncy. Maybe they needed more time to be broken in? They had 5k on them though. Then I went to some nice weitecs which have more miles on them but ride infinitely better. I think expensive coilovers are expensive for a reason.. higher quality springs/struts, corrosion protection, nicer ones have dampening adjustability, things like that.
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      03-21-2012 09:23 AM #13
      i have the ultimos and really dont have any complaints... my friends has an h&r setup and his is worse... u can feel the littlest bump... imo.

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      03-22-2012 02:03 PM #14
      Racelands are def a better alternative to cutting or using drop springs.
      I just recently put Ultimos on my MK4 and they seem a bit "sloppy" to me
      I can go low as hell but I don't think I will be slaloming cones in parking lots like I would normally do lol

      If you can afford to save the extra cash for a better set of coil overs, I would do so.
      I'm gunna ride mine out till next year and then oopgrade

    15. 03-22-2012 05:21 PM #15
      Exactly, do not buy those crap coilovers...better stay with your OEM suspension,or buy a used set of KW,H&R,KONI,AP,Weitec etc...

      or if you cant find used ones,

      a good sport suspension that you can lower with Bilstein struts and KW,H&R springs and your good to go,

      you are wasting your money on JOM,RACELAND,ROKKOR,BLUELINE,

    16. 03-23-2012 12:45 PM #16
      Haters are going to hate, but I will say the Raceland coilovers are a fine purchase as long as you know what you are getting. They will not be as comfortable as stock suspension or some coilovers that cost double or tripe of their price. They will not give you race car handling. They ARE stiffer than OEM suspension and you can adjust ride height.

      (I do understand stiffer is not always better and lowering is obviously not good for most grip and best lap times or whatever. When I dive my car to the mall or a friends house, the improved steering response seems more relevant.)

      If you do not race your car and you do not have a problem with stiffer ride, why not? Unless you drop them on the bumpstops they are not that bad for daily driving. I've driven worse cup kits, and from my point of view I would never go back to stock, all that bodyroll and wheel bounce...
      Another point of view could be my dads opinion on them: they made the whole car a piece of ****.
      If you prefer comfort and ground clearance, don't get them.

      This is all from MK4 point of view. Don't know how your stock suspension compares.

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      03-30-2012 12:26 PM #17
      I had the original racelands on my mk3 jetta vr6 for two years. They rode pretty well for the first year I had them with no complaints, fairly stiff, I had all the components in them still with the bumpstops in. In the summer of 2011 I really lowered the car quite a bit for shows and the car in the beginning rode still fairly well. As 1-2 months passed the car increasingly began to ride poorly, worse and worse as time went on.
      The ride became bouncy, especially at low speeds and the coils began to make noise when the suspension was completing travel. To rectify the issue I thought possibly cutting or removing the bumpstops would help. After cutting them in half it did help but the coils then were too soft to the point where it was rubbing the tire so much I had to put the full bumpstop back in.
      By the end of summer the ride was almost horrible, to the point where I raised the car back up another 1.5 inches before I got better coils.

      The just of this story, EVERY review you read from people are people telling you how they do not ride bad at all, WHICH IS TRUE, for the first quarter or half of their life. Why people always hate on cheap coilovers is they wear out, they blow out, and over time the ride gets worse and worse, and worse, to the point where its so uncomfortable and embarrassing.

      That is a 100% full review of original Racelands used for 2+ years.
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    18. 04-01-2012 08:53 AM #18
      Used them on my previous mk4 awful replaced them after 2weeks with spax coilovers with adj damping, never use that rubbish again.

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      04-05-2012 06:42 PM #19
      lol the raceland ultimos ride fine and probably ride better than some of the more expensive coils

    20. 04-06-2012 11:45 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by CandySucker View Post
      The just of this story, EVERY review you read from people are people telling you how they do not ride bad at all, WHICH IS TRUE, for the first quarter or half of their life. .
      Fair point, however don't you think amount of lowering has some effect on their lifetime? I have agree that these won't last as long as high quality ones, but I'd still say they are worth the money.

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      04-09-2012 10:50 AM #21
      You guys have given me alot to think about. I havent commented on this in a while because my ceiling collapsed in a house I was renting and I bought a house after that. Now that I am a bit stable in my home I am ready to address this again. I think the battle for me is cost with getting the more expensive coilovers but I guess thats one of those things where it is better to wait til you have the money for some good ones then jump out and buy some cheaper ones and run them. Hmm. I am still weighing options though.....

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      04-09-2012 11:04 AM #22
      Hey Guys,

      What do you think about the FK Coilovers?

      http://fkcoilover.com/

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      04-10-2012 12:31 PM #23
      i have rokkors on my mk3 and they ride like ****...but then again its a vr6 not a racecar. as long as its low im happy

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      04-12-2012 10:20 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by SoIAteAPancakeToday View Post
      lol the raceland ultimos ride fine and probably ride better than some of the more expensive coils
      I would agree with this quote for the first 1/4 to 1/2 of the life of the coils... I really question how well they will ride after being really low on them for a year or so...
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      04-12-2012 11:06 AM #25
      My og racelands still had some life in them after two years and 40k miles. And the ultimos are leaps better than those

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