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  1. 08-16-2011 12:47 PM #1
    First I would like to thank these people that helped me through it all to make it to this point.

    Jerome Foster- you was there every step of the way from day one bro with advice/motivation/knowledge/manhours lol
    Janhoi - another one that has been there from the start that all nighter with the welder was memorable.
    Gino @ Evolution Racing Engines - machining/building/guidance/knowledge - http://www.evolutionracingengines.com/
    Paul (need_a_vr6) @ KPTuned - for 24/7 tech-support and many more. http://kptuned.com/
    Chris Palumbo (XXX007XXX) - for much help with the car, support!
    Ed @ Force Fed Engineering - support, fabrication/welding! - http://www.fferacing.com/
    Swoops - fabrication/welding
    DJ - for his multiple Rx7 runs , suppport from day one as well.
    Brian Daponte - his spare 24v for mockup of 02m mounts
    Rhussjr & Issam Abed - assisting me with pistons.
    Weasel410 - for designing of the pistons
    Shawn Dezego - 02m Mounts
    Mark @ Falcon Clutches - http://www.falconauto.com/




    Here are the highlights: As the full build is on my page here where you will see the start up video at the end enjoy everyone!


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  3. 08-16-2011 03:14 PM #3
    specs:

    Engine-

    85mm 13:1 Pistons
    Bildon Rev-Lite Rods
    Crank crapper
    Port Polish (multi valve job on the 5intake/3exhaust)
    Supertech springs/retainers
    Schrick 272 Cams
    Ferrea lifter shims
    ARP main studs

    Transmission-

    02M with a diff
    upgraded shift forks

    Clutch-

    Modified Stock R32 pressure plate

    12lb r32 Flywheel

    Bolt-on's-

    Q45 throttle body
    HPA CVP short runner
    Stock Ported Exhaust manifolds
    TT Downpipe
    DSS stage 3 02M swap axles


    Management -

    Megasquirt -MS3X/3.57 thanks to paul.
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    08-18-2011 04:40 PM #4
    Nice resume

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    08-19-2011 12:51 PM #5
    Why a Q45 TB and not a V8 vw/audi unit?

    For the downpip, TT=audi or TT=Techtonics Tuning?

    Can't wait to get home from work so I can see your webpage.

  6. 08-19-2011 04:59 PM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Sutt View Post
    Why a Q45 TB and not a V8 vw/audi unit?

    For the downpip, TT=audi or TT=Techtonics Tuning?

    Can't wait to get home from work so I can see your webpage.


    V8 vw/audi tb is drive by wire I believe, and the q45 was what I had at the time and a flange was readily available as well, not to mention it is 84mm.

    The downpipe is TT as in Technonics Tuning



    Problem I ran into this week.

    1. rear main seal appears to be leaking

    so while I have the transmission off I will open the transmission back up to do some things I wanted to do in there!


    2. with the car down I might possibly make a header
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    08-20-2011 01:19 PM #7
    Its 82.5mm glad you finally got it started, its been a long time coming!
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  8. 08-20-2011 08:27 PM #8
    long time coming is an understatement u can say that again. but hey part time job and full time school is the story of my life one day ill graduate from being a professional student
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    08-22-2011 01:04 PM #9
    Thanks.

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    09-04-2011 02:53 AM #11
    So tell me more about this trans modification. Did you actually weld the shift forks to the input shaft?

  12. 09-04-2011 07:20 AM #12
    yes.

    what often happens is the rivet that holds the fork to the shaft breaks and the fork comes loose and is free with everything spinning it will break easily.

    here is a pic I found:

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    09-04-2011 01:07 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    yes.

    what often happens is the rivet that holds the fork to the shaft breaks and the fork comes loose and is free with everything spinning it will break easily.

    here is a pic I found:

    Wow. So if the rivets break what are some of the symptons from the trans?

  14. 09-04-2011 06:06 PM #14
    well if it breaks then you can't shift into a gear. because if the rivet comes loose the fork most likely breaks.

    its in some ways a common problem with 02M's
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    09-04-2011 09:11 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    well if it breaks then you can't shift into a gear. because if the rivet comes loose the fork most likely breaks.

    its in some ways a common problem with 02M's
    Not my problem. My problem is a constant grinding at idle and after its in gear and i let off the clutch it continues to grind, but there is no grinding into gear. Its almost like the disk or pressure plate has cracked or something.

  16. 09-05-2011 10:31 AM #16
    you might have a different problem possibly clutch related.
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    09-07-2011 09:19 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    you might have a different problem possibly clutch related.
    What kind of HP you putting down?

  18. 09-07-2011 11:20 PM #18
    I havn't been to the dyno. but my goal is for 300.

    Right now I have the car down fixing a leak and redo something in my transmission, will update the firmware in the megasquirt.

    also I will try to get better suspension since the one thats on the shell is blown.


    right now school is in full effect so its hard to get time to work on the car so bear with me. But ill answer any questions you have keep them coming!
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  19. 09-17-2011 10:21 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    I havn't been to the dyno. but my goal is for 300.

    :
    All that for 300?

    You could have boosted a 12V instead, made much more power, and enjoyed actually racing the car over the past 5 years instead of just running your mouth to people that actually post time slips.

    The years roll by and you still haven't made a pass.
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  20. 09-18-2011 02:53 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalen View Post
    All that for 300?

    You could have boosted a 12V instead, made much more power, and enjoyed actually racing the car over the past 5 years instead of just running your mouth to people that actually post time slips.

    The years roll by and you still haven't made a pass.



    reasons I didn't build a 12v turbo.


    1. i dont believe in having a turbo 6cyl powering the 2 front wheels it is a poor way to make a car fast. (I prefer rwd for that combo)
    2. My next door neighbor/child hood friend has a 2.9 fully built vr turbo jetta that has dyno'ed 600whp already. I help him plenty of times with the car why should I build a similar car.



    Iam sorry I didn't built the car in a shorter time frame but being that I couldn't find a full time job and then returning back to school had a huge effect on the project. but at the end of the day i didn't build it for you or anybody else. I built it to hopefully run it in the 11.5 index for Charity.

    Charity I mean organization(s) that help out in the community locally.
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  21. 09-18-2011 03:41 PM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    reasons I didn't build a 12v turbo.


    1. i dont believe in having a turbo 6cyl powering the 2 front wheels it is a poor way to make a car fast. (I prefer rwd for that combo)
    2. My next door neighbor/child hood friend has a 2.9 fully built vr turbo jetta that has dyno'ed 600whp already. I help him plenty of times with the car why should I build a similar car.



    Iam sorry I didn't built the car in a shorter time frame but being that I couldn't find a full time job and then returning back to school had a huge effect on the project. but at the end of the day i didn't build it for you or anybody else. I built it to hopefully run it in the 11.5 index for Charity.

    Charity I mean organization(s) that help out in the community locally.
    That was touching. I built a bolt-on VRT while working full time and getting a Bachelors degree at night. Posting time slips all along the way while e-thug trolls like you ran your mouth in my threads. Glad to see you having issues
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  22. 09-18-2011 09:37 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalen View Post
    That was touching. I built a bolt-on VRT while working full time and getting a Bachelors degree at night. Posting time slips all along the way while e-thug trolls like you ran your mouth in my threads. Glad to see you having issues

    thanks for the hate. but my previous post boiled down to 1 point:

    300whp all motor is faster then 300whp on FI. in the 1/4 mile for a couple of factors.


    this whole build has nothing to do with you. Its funny, the younger me would just call you out. But honestly this car has a different purpose. thank you for stopping by though with the hate. it doesn't phase me.

    iam not here to argue with you this is a build thread. take care
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  23. 09-19-2011 10:35 AM #23
    Congrats on your build. Bollocks to the haters.

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    09-19-2011 01:37 PM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    reasons I didn't build a 12v turbo.
    i dont believe in having a turbo 6cyl powering the 2 front wheels it is a poor way to make a car fast. (I prefer rwd for that combo)
    This^ I agree 100% I'd much rather have a powerful na motor than fi. I don't get why people are coming in here and not being impressed with 300whp. I would muuuch rather have 300 na whp than 300 boosted hp. Great build! Looking forward to some runs

  25. 09-20-2011 07:24 AM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    thanks for the hate. but my previous post boiled down to 1 point:

    300whp all motor is faster then 300whp on FI. in the 1/4 mile for a couple of factors.


    this whole build has nothing to do with you. Its funny, the younger me would just call you out. But honestly this car has a different purpose. thank you for stopping by though with the hate. it doesn't phase me.

    iam not here to argue with you this is a build thread. take care
    Paybacks are a *****. Hope to see you at the track sometime
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  26. 09-21-2011 09:26 PM #26
    Ill be there Oct.2, ill bring what I have for you hope you can make it, should be a good event.
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  27. 09-22-2011 07:19 AM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    Ill be there Oct.2, ill bring what I have for you hope you can make it, should be a good event.
    I have a track day on Oct. 2. Maybe some other time.

    Then highway pulls
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  28. 09-23-2011 06:43 PM #28
    oh where at? I wouldn't mind going to one of those once I work out the bugs.
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  29. 09-23-2011 11:21 PM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthchirpin View Post
    oh where at? I wouldn't mind going to one of those once I work out the bugs.
    NJMP. They're everywhere.

    Just don't remove your sway bars, delete power steering, remove rebars, and downgrade brakes like most of the allmotor clique to redce weight in hopes of gaining internet stardom. It's fine for going in a straight line, but wont work so well on the track.
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    09-24-2011 11:43 AM #30
    This build motivates me to stay N/A I'm watching.
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    09-24-2011 11:44 AM #31
    alright I see its on another site
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  32. 09-24-2011 11:59 PM #32
    yeah its all in the link!


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  33. 09-25-2011 09:35 AM #33
    I look forward to seeing some slips from you soon.
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  34. 09-26-2011 07:46 PM #34
    Quote Originally Posted by need_a_VR6 View Post
    glad you finally got it started, its been a long time coming!
    X2...good to see progress
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    09-27-2011 12:49 AM #35
    damn, i remember you in the mk3 forums and i've been wondering about this build. glad to see it's coming together.
    welcome to the layer cake

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