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      08-22-2011 09:40 PM #1
      The goal for this thread is to become very useful resource when tackling such projects as;
      Shaving the bay, firewall, n/a radiator support, hiding the brake booster/master cylinder, lengthening/"tucking" the harness, and just plain old doing things under the Hood that look interesting, painting or plating things, anything cool.

      I'm looking specifically for more information on a way to hide my booster/master while retaining power brakes, which size (wall thickness and diameter) to use when doing my frame notches, and information/ideas on how to retain a uniform and correct orientation while raising strut towers...

      PLEASE POST LINKS, STORIES, EXPERIENCES, PICTURES, PLANS, OR ANYTHING MK3 SHAVED ENGINE BAY RELATED......OH AND OF COURSE PICTURES ARE WELCOME
      Last edited by Lamy207; 08-22-2011 at 09:44 PM.
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      08-22-2011 09:46 PM #2
      Great idea for a thread. I'm in for this
      Quote Originally Posted by Sodomythical Frostgoat View Post
      **** off Timmy, I'm trying to break someone's spirit here, jesus.
      If you use the term "hater," I'm just going to assume you came out with the cord wrapped around your neck.

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      08-22-2011 09:59 PM #3
      We'll see how it goes... I'm trying to get as much information as I can before I ruin my harness. LOL...
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      08-22-2011 09:59 PM #4
      Yea ill def be checking in on this thread daily good ish

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      08-22-2011 10:01 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Lamy207 View Post
      We'll see how it goes... I'm trying to get as much information as I can before I ruin my harness. LOL...
      Well I'd pull a junkyard harness or grab one from the classifieds. You'd at least have some extra wire to keep the colors consistent as you extend it. You could even build the harness while keeping the car running if you were so inclined.

      That's just me, though.
      Quote Originally Posted by Sodomythical Frostgoat View Post
      **** off Timmy, I'm trying to break someone's spirit here, jesus.
      If you use the term "hater," I'm just going to assume you came out with the cord wrapped around your neck.

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      08-22-2011 10:08 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by mAyZa b 3 a t s View Post
      Well I'd pull a junkyard harness or grab one from the classifieds. You'd at least have some extra wire to keep the colors consistent as you extend it. You could even build the harness while keeping the car running if you were so inclined.

      That's just me, though.


      Two steps ahead, pulled one out of one of my parts cars for the consistan color reason...

      [Link]http://wilwood.com/MasterCylinders/MasterCylinderList.aspx?minorname=Compact%20Remote %20Combination%20Master%20Cylinder[/Link]

      This looks promising. No idea what to do with the booster though

      Will edit later for working link, unless someone else does it before me... gd smart phones
      Last edited by Lamy207; 08-22-2011 at 10:13 PM.
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      08-22-2011 10:17 PM #7
      saving this thread for when i clean up my bay more
      feel free to ask me any fab questions if anyone has any
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      08-22-2011 10:24 PM #8
      Pics needed.

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      08-22-2011 10:59 PM #9
      What was wrong with the other thread?

      Lots of info here too

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...*-thread/page1

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      08-23-2011 06:17 AM #10
      Nothing wrong with it. Its in the mark 2 fourms, and information is sparce, do get me wrong, there is plenty of motivation in that thread I think its just lacking informative goodness.

      Minor_threats car is dope. Shaved rain tray is on point. Just sayin.
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    11. 08-23-2011 08:24 AM #11
      Im gonna let this thread slide on grounds that this doesnt turn into another shaved bay thread.

      Keep this strictly to tips, tricks, helpful links, DIY's and How-To's ONLY.

      I see hard drive dumps of shaved bays, this'll get locked.


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      08-23-2011 10:46 AM #13
      this is relevant to my interests.

      here is a link to that cover that goes over there 3 sensors.
      for a VR, coolant sensors.
      You can see an example in the 2pic of Connor's car above my post.
      Last edited by PKstrategy; 08-23-2011 at 10:51 AM.

    14. 08-23-2011 10:47 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by tdogg74 View Post
      Im gonna let this thread slide on grounds that this doesnt turn into another shaved bay thread.

      Keep this strictly to tips, tricks, helpful links, DIY's and How-To's ONLY.

      I see hard drive dumps of shaved bays, this'll get locked.

      Ill just quote myself as it seems some people can't read.

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      08-23-2011 12:26 PM #15
      How do you know which sensors you can delete?

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      08-23-2011 12:57 PM #16
      i am in the process of doing this myself great idea for a thread hopefully it doesnt get out of hand

      ill post up some photos of my progress later
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      08-23-2011 02:09 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by papo98jetta View Post
      How do you know which sensors you can delete?

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      You have to run *most* of the sensors with a stock ECU. You can remove stuff like the aux water pump, secondary air injection, all the wiring for the stock fans, etc.

      Or you can run standalone and get rid of pretty much all the sensors except, Crank sensor, coolant temp, tps, and iat sensor.

      My wiring harness consists of 6 injector plugs, 1 coilpack plug, 1 throttle body plug, 1 coolant temp sensor plug, 1 intake air temp plug, and 1 crank sensor plug. A few ground wires for all of the sensors. But that's really it. Makes it really simple when you run standalone. It's expensive, but well worth it IMO.

      But with that being said, you can still have a really clean engine bay with stock ecu. Just gotta sit down and figure out how you want to route stuff, how you want to run the wiring/piping, what you want to polish or paint.

      When it comes to the body work portion of it, you can pretty much shave whatever you want to. The skys the limit. From what I have noticed and seen, not every ones bay is exactly the same.

      Also, when it comes to the wiring harness, you have a few different options for running it. You can run it out the side into the fender area and back out by the front like I am, or you can run it through the frame rail(there a grommet by the pedals that goes straight into the frame rail and there is a hole on the bottom of the frame rail by the front cross member). I recommend running it through the fender area since it's easier to track down issues down the road if you were to have any.

      When you guys start dissecting your stock wiring harness, I recommend removing the wiring for the stock fans and fan control module. It really cleans everything up if you run slim fans. I just wired mine up to a relay which makes the fans come on when you turn the ignition. I am running a pair of cheap ebay slim fans and they work great for what I need them for. You can mount them as pushers or pullers.

      Coilpack: I mounted mine underneath the intake manifold with a custom bracket. You have to run all of your wires underneath the intake manifold. It really cleans up the side of the motor I think.

      Here you can kind of see it in this picture(I still have to clean my plug wires up)


      Coolant: If you want to get rid of the coolant bubble, you reuse the factory lines, but you replace the "Y" pipe for a inline filler. You can also see that in the picture above.

      Intake: Pepboys has 3 inch pipe that pretty much just snaps together. I had this for a while and just wrinkle blacked it.
      You can kinda see it in this shot.


      Also, Candywhitesniff had the same thing on his car.


      That's all I can think of from the top of my head. I'll post some more info/ideas as I remember them. I know I am forgetting alot.

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      08-23-2011 03:16 PM #18
      Did you just leave the heater core painted like that? Or did you eventually run lines to it? Or was that a temporary thing? Just wondering because I've been kicking around the idea of a shave, but I don't know if I could deal with not having any heat.

      (Looks like it's broken anyway )
      Quote Originally Posted by Sodomythical Frostgoat View Post
      **** off Timmy, I'm trying to break someone's spirit here, jesus.
      If you use the term "hater," I'm just going to assume you came out with the cord wrapped around your neck.

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      08-23-2011 04:11 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by 1VR62NV View Post
      i am in the process of doing this myself great idea for a thread hopefully it doesnt get out of hand

      ill post up some photos of my progress later
      Please do! Like Trav said though, helpful hints tips links ect. Please don't let this get locked.
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      08-23-2011 04:16 PM #20
      if i had a second car, i'd shave my harle's bay..

      When you delete the coolant bubble and go with the inline filler; are you basically getting rid of the level sensor, or is that reused/relocated somewhere else? I personally don't think I'd like not having an easy visual on the coolant level...
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      08-23-2011 05:52 PM #21
      I wana get rid of this small module that would normally sit below the intake box. it has 2 tubes running from it into the intake boot. anyone kno if it can be removed without messing stuff up

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      08-23-2011 07:09 PM #22
      It's broken, I am gonna build a temporary plate for that and the a/c for h2o, but when I get back I plan on doing a custom a/c setup and replace the heatercore at the same time.

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      08-23-2011 07:13 PM #23
      Care to expound upon that? I'd like to see a shaved bay that maintains all of the car's functionality.

      Looks great so far
      Quote Originally Posted by Sodomythical Frostgoat View Post
      **** off Timmy, I'm trying to break someone's spirit here, jesus.
      If you use the term "hater," I'm just going to assume you came out with the cord wrapped around your neck.

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      08-23-2011 10:06 PM #24
      It takes a bit more work to shave the bay if you want to keep all of the car's functionality.



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      08-23-2011 10:40 PM #25
      wow that ac is a great idea...good work

      heres mine





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      08-23-2011 10:52 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by papo98jetta View Post
      Pics needed.


      No one wants to see this busted ass rot box bay.
      Yikes!

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      08-23-2011 11:11 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by tdogg74 View Post
      Im gonna let this thread slide on grounds that this doesnt turn into another shaved bay thread.

      Keep this strictly to tips, tricks, helpful links, DIY's and How-To's ONLY.

      I see hard drive dumps of shaved bays, this'll get locked.

      I'd actually like to get info rather than just a bunch of pictures. But I do have a few photos to add. I took a few of some shaved bays in some key areas for a reference point to myself.

      _MG_6290 by skidplate09, on Flickr

      _MG_6291 by skidplate09, on Flickr

      _MG_6259 by skidplate09, on Flickr

      _MG_6260 by skidplate09, on Flickr
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      08-24-2011 07:42 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by EmKay3'z View Post
      I wana get rid of this small module that would normally sit below the intake box. it has 2 tubes running from it into the intake boot. anyone kno if it can be removed without messing stuff up
      Pics for reference. Sounds like your describing an evap purge solenoid. Like I said pics for reference.

      The motor will be coming out of the silver arrow next week to start filling the holes and stripping the seam sealer. Me thinks notches and strut tower mods are first in order.

      Ill post DIY related pics later.... any idea what to get for tubing for my notches?
      Last edited by Lamy207; 08-24-2011 at 07:56 AM.
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      08-24-2011 12:11 PM #29
      some will say not all of the following are necessary, but oh well.

      Shaved bay MUST HAVES

      Organization
      Ziplock bags
      Shoeboxes
      Boxes and bins
      Sharpie markers
      Masking Tape
      Painters tape
      Zipties
      Clear garbage bags
      Heavy duty garbage bags

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      Everything Metric based!
      Air compressor
      Air tools
      Drill(s)
      Impact gun
      Dremel
      Grinder
      Wire brushes and related attachments
      Whiz Wheels
      Orbital Sander with various grits
      Good Jack
      Jack stands
      Dollies
      Wire cutters
      Vice grips
      Workbench w/Vice
      Engine Stand
      Engine Hoist

      Cleaning
      Shop Vac
      Rubber Mat
      Porous Mat
      Old towels
      Shop towels
      Orange cleaner
      Purple power degreaser
      Prepsol
      Goo gone
      PB blaster
      Brake clean

      Consumables
      Beer
      Water
      Gatorade
      Weed
      Cigs
      Gum

      Recommended Brands:
      3M, Crafstman, Snap-on, DeWalt

      Tips: Label EVERYTHING, down to the bolt.
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      08-24-2011 12:23 PM #30
      With that I'll ask a few questions to the folks who have ridden this rodeo before:

      What are the recommended products for:
      Primer?
      Body Filler?

      In another thread, I read or saw something about USC Metal Ready?

      How long can you keep bare metal exposed before it starts to rust?
      Like say because of other pending parts of your "build", you might not be ready to prime/paint stuff.

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      08-24-2011 12:48 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by PKstrategy View Post
      With that I'll ask a few questions to the folks who have ridden this rodeo before:

      What are the recommended products for:
      Primer?
      Body Filler?

      In another thread, I read or saw something about USC Metal Ready?

      How long can you keep bare metal exposed before it starts to rust?
      Like say because of other pending parts of your "build", you might not be ready to prime/paint stuff.
      Well, in my experience with body work, it really depends on the humidity in the air, exposure to sun light and oils (hands and other contamination...)

      To add to your list pk, prepsol... clean work is quality work!
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      08-24-2011 10:09 PM #32
      Evercoat products for all fillers.

      I like to use Evercoat Rage Gold or Extreme.

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      08-24-2011 11:22 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by SlowVRT View Post
      Evercoat products for all fillers.

      I like to use Evercoat Rage Gold or Extreme.

      best stuff

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      08-25-2011 01:21 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by SlowVRT View Post
      Evercoat products for all fillers.

      I like to use Evercoat Rage Gold or Extreme.


      No bondo. In for more info I might want to do a mild shave down the road.

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      08-25-2011 07:14 AM #35
      Someone post a link to the shaved bay appreciation thread over in the mark 2 fourms, lots of inspiration in there, lots of dudes to pm and ask questions. .. I can't make links work on my droid.
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