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      03-20-2012 11:57 AM #151
      Quote Originally Posted by arkitekto View Post
      Hey guys, what's goin--

      ...oh it's become one of THOSE threads.
      this.

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      03-20-2012 12:25 PM #152
      I love how every other thread turns into a Hyundai/Kia pissing match. Thanks to SD for providing information without resorting to the usual attacks and whining. Lets all try to be grown ups and emulate this behavior.

      So, when is this thing going to leak already? It feels like Nissan has been teasing us forever.

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      03-20-2012 12:30 PM #153
      Quote Originally Posted by Swallow Doretti View Post
      The Georgia plant builds three vehicles, the Optima, Santa Fe and Sorento, and has a total capacity of about 300,000 vehicles at a 24/7 pace. There's flexibility is how that's split between the three, but basically it boils down to 120,000 Optimas a year, 120,000 Sorentos, and 60,000 Santa Fes.
      But is the Optima hybrid accounting for as large of a percentage of Optima sales as the Sonata hybrid is for Sonata sales? The Optima hybrid is not built at KMMG, so that's additional capacity over the 120,000 figure.

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      03-20-2012 02:56 PM #154
      Quote Originally Posted by arkitekto View Post
      Hey guys, what's goin--

      ...oh it's become one of THOSE threads.


      we all know why

    5. 03-22-2012 02:03 AM #155
      Quote Originally Posted by GTRaavv View Post
      The Optima hasn't sold near the Sonata's level. Is Kia's capacity that much lower than Hyundai's? Serious question.
      Until US production started in the Fall of 2011, total Optima production was limlted to around 14k a month, w/ the US and Canada getting a little more than half of that - which is why US sales was around 7k/month until supplies started to increase when production started in GA (also the reason why the European launch was delayed twice).

      Recently, Optima sales have jumped to over 11k a month, overtaking the Sorento as the best selling Kia model in the US (I think we will see the Optima settle around the 12k monthly, maybe little more or little less depending on how production is allocated).

      As for the Optima hybrid, don't think it sells anywhere close to the Sonata hybrid which has been the best-selling hybrid model next to the Prius family (a bit surprising).

      So even w/ less production capacity than GM, Ford or any of the Japanese Big 3, combined sales of the Optima and Sonata still was good for 3rd on the mid-size sedan list (probably second taking away fleet sales).
      Last edited by CP1; 03-22-2012 at 02:06 AM.
      Why you wouldn’t (buy an Optima SX):

      Because you have your eyes on the Frigidaire Limited Edition Camry that you saw last weekend at the neighborhood Autoplex
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      03-22-2012 02:35 AM #156
      The Sonata Hybrid outsales the Camry Hybrid? WOW
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    7. 03-22-2012 02:43 AM #157
      Can we all at least get a good laugh when the 2014 Altima Hybrid with 270hp averages 40+ mpg combined?

    8. 03-22-2012 04:05 AM #158
      Quote Originally Posted by rlaltiowner05 View Post
      The Sonata Hybrid outsales the Camry Hybrid? WOW
      It did last year, but I would suspect the new Camry hybrid will surpass it this year, being the most improved of the various Camrys (unless all the Toyota hybrid buyers just rather have the Prius).
      Why you wouldn’t (buy an Optima SX):

      Because you have your eyes on the Frigidaire Limited Edition Camry that you saw last weekend at the neighborhood Autoplex
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      03-22-2012 07:55 AM #159
      Quote Originally Posted by CP1 View Post
      So even w/ less production capacity than GM, Ford or any of the Japanese Big 3, combined sales of the Optima and Sonata still was good for 3rd on the mid-size sedan list (probably second taking away fleet sales).
      Does Kia not sell to fleets?

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      03-22-2012 10:32 AM #160
      Quote Originally Posted by CP1 View Post
      Until US production started in the Fall of 2011, total Optima production was limlted to around 14k a month, w/ the US and Canada getting a little more than half of that - which is why US sales was around 7k/month until supplies started to increase when production started in GA (also the reason why the European launch was delayed twice).

      Recently, Optima sales have jumped to over 11k a month, overtaking the Sorento as the best selling Kia model in the US (I think we will see the Optima settle around the 12k monthly, maybe little more or little less depending on how production is allocated).

      As for the Optima hybrid, don't think it sells anywhere close to the Sonata hybrid which has been the best-selling hybrid model next to the Prius family (a bit surprising).

      So even w/ less production capacity than GM, Ford or any of the Japanese Big 3, combined sales of the Optima and Sonata still was good for 3rd on the mid-size sedan list (probably second taking away fleet sales).
      But it doesn't seem to be ranking in the Top 10 of the shortest days in inventory list like the Sonata and Elantra have been off and on.

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      03-26-2012 12:06 AM #163
      i definitely see Ellure concept's front. not sure if i would like that pinched grille.

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      03-26-2012 12:09 AM #164
      I'm pretty excited.

      If only all car makers were like this.....complete overhaul of their products.

      Acura/Honda needs something like this.

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      03-26-2012 12:24 AM #165
      I hope the Sentra gets a major redo, it really needs to be a hit. The competition is better than ever. It should borrow heavily from the Ellure.

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      03-29-2012 12:23 PM #166

    17. 03-29-2012 12:33 PM #167
      I'm happy the CHICA MOBILE-ROGUE will finally get redone that damn this is like a blob, then again it looked kind of dated the day it came out.

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      03-29-2012 12:47 PM #168
      Quote Originally Posted by spidy View Post
      So, Nissan, Infiniti, and Lexus are all using the same grille design now?

      I hope Volvo and BMW never abandon their traditional grille themes. They are the last of the automotive brands whose grille designs still reflect their past/heritage.

    19. 03-29-2012 12:47 PM #169
      check out the 7K rpm redline, that's got to be the highest in class and if it belongs to a VQ engine it's most likely putting out around 300 hp. Pretty interesting. Wonder what the powertrains will be?

      Also I really like the simplicity and elegance of this gauge cluster.


    20. 04-04-2012 08:01 PM #170
      Quote Originally Posted by GTRaavv View Post
      But it doesn't seem to be ranking in the Top 10 of the shortest days in inventory list like the Sonata and Elantra have been off and on.
      It doesn't have to - as long as its days on the lot is below average (which it is).

      For March, Optima sales jumped to over 15k as more supply has hit the lots.
      Why you wouldn’t (buy an Optima SX):

      Because you have your eyes on the Frigidaire Limited Edition Camry that you saw last weekend at the neighborhood Autoplex
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      04-04-2012 08:06 PM #171
      Quote Originally Posted by CP1 View Post
      It doesn't have to - as long as its days on the lot is below average (which it is).

      For March, Optima sales jumped to over 15k as more supply has hit the lots.
      But according to the "numbers" they don't have the capacity to produce 15,000 vehicles a month, so surprising they could sell that much more than they can allegedly produce. Altima also hit 40,000.

    22. 04-04-2012 10:10 PM #172
      ^ Uhm, aside from production of the Optima also starting in the US late last year, Kia also expanded capacity at their GA plant.
      Why you wouldn’t (buy an Optima SX):

      Because you have your eyes on the Frigidaire Limited Edition Camry that you saw last weekend at the neighborhood Autoplex
      .
      - LeftLaneNews

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      04-04-2012 11:02 PM #173
      Quote Originally Posted by GTRaavv View Post
      But according to the "numbers" they don't have the capacity to produce 15,000 vehicles a month, so surprising they could sell that much more than they can allegedly produce. Altima also hit 40,000.

      The reason why the Altima sells so well is because theres not enough Sonatas/Optimas to meet demand. Duh!
      Last edited by gonzo08452; 04-04-2012 at 11:06 PM.

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