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Thread: BFI - Motor Mounts - Polyurethane solutions for your MkV 2.5L

  1. 08-25-2011 04:15 PM #1


    We are proud to offer performance motor mounts for all 2.5L applications. Our poly mounts are unlike any other poly options available. They are produced from a two part liquid cast system in several durometers. This results in both a more uniform product as well as a more durable one..


    BFI - Complete Replacement 2.5l 5-cylinder Engine Mounts

    After a lenghty period of design and testing we are finally proud to announce the release of our complete replacement engine side mount for Mk5 and Mk6 2.5 5 cylinder vehicles. BFI Mk5/Mk6 Complete Replacement Engine Mounts are available in 65a and 85a in shore hardness. We recommend Stage 1 mounts for stock & lightly modified Mk5/Mk6 5-cylinder vehicles. Stage 2 is recommended for heavily modified vehicles (ie turbo).

    BFI Mk5/6 Stage 1 Complete Replacement Mount (5-cylinder)

    BFI Mk5/6 Stage 2 Complete Replacement Mount (5-cylinder)


    BFI - Transmission Mount Inserts

    Upgrade your transmission mount and put more power to the ground while experiencing smoother shifting. Our polyurethane inserts are a direct replacement for those soft OEM pieces and really make a noticeable difference.

    BFI - Stage 1 Transmission Mount Insert

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    BFI - Complete Replacement Transmission Mounts

    BFI Mk5/Mk6 Complete Replacement Transmission Mounts are available in 65a and 85a in shore hardness, vs stock which depending on the model, range from 40-50a. These provide a good increase in firmness for better performance, without dramatically increasing vibrations.

    Mk5/6 Stage 1 Complete Replacement Transmission Mount (5-speed/Tiptronic)

    BFI Mk5/6 Stage 2 Complete Replacement Transmission Mount (5-speed/Tiptronic)


    See our entire Mk5/Mk6 motor mount portfolio here.

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  2. 08-25-2011 08:09 PM #2
    any ideas on when the motor mount will be released for the 2.5?
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    08-25-2011 11:28 PM #3
    I have the stage 2! Had it for over a year now and STILL love it! Stiffens the whole motor up and you can REALLY feel it! Once I started the car up it was immediately noticeable...i thought I somehow got an exhaust leak it was so loud! It brings this car to life! Super stiff I start the car and feel it come to life with a tight growl! I totally suggest this to anyone who wants to be connected to car while behind the wheel...plus this thing really launches now
    god i love my car. it may not be fast, but it's crazy fun!



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    08-26-2011 04:51 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by LampyB View Post
    any ideas on when the motor mount will be released for the 2.5?
    We're in the process of finalizing development for the engine side motor mount.
    There were a couple bumps in the road, but we're not letting that stop us from getting it to market.


    Quote Originally Posted by TylerO28 View Post
    I have the stage 2! Had it for over a year now and STILL love it! Stiffens the whole motor up and you can REALLY feel it! Once I started the car up it was immediately noticeable...i thought I somehow got an exhaust leak it was so loud! It brings this car to life! Super stiff I start the car and feel it come to life with a tight growl! I totally suggest this to anyone who wants to be connected to car while behind the wheel...plus this thing really launches now
    Awesome! Thanks for the feedback.

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    08-26-2011 10:45 PM #5
    I'm totally down for the engine mount! Whenever its ready I'm in!
    god i love my car. it may not be fast, but it's crazy fun!



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    08-29-2011 09:53 AM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TylerO28 View Post
    I'm totally down for the engine mount! Whenever its ready I'm in!
    As soon as they're available, we'll update this thread.

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    08-30-2011 07:56 AM #7
    Have you guys got any initial drawings or prototype shots you can post up for us? I'd like to get a look at it...
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    08-30-2011 01:10 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by TylerO28 View Post
    Have you guys got any initial drawings or prototype shots you can post up for us? I'd like to get a look at it...
    We have all that, but we consider it proprietary information.

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    09-09-2011 02:03 AM #10
    Make a transmission mount for the 6spd Tiptronic transmission plz BFI! I was the guy who had to find out the hard way it was made for the 5spd manual transmission even though on your website I told you that you could configure it for 2.5 engine and select 6spd transmission and I ended up receiving the trans mount for the 6spd manual for the 2.0T. Anyways, I sold it so live and learn but I would like to see some automatic love!

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    09-09-2011 02:10 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by TylerO28 View Post
    I'm totally down for the engine mount! Whenever its ready I'm in!

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    09-12-2011 02:10 PM #12
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  14. 09-27-2011 11:39 AM #14
    will the pre assembled fit an 09 5 speed?

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    09-27-2011 01:24 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by kungfoojesus View Post
    will the pre assembled fit an 09 5 speed?
    Yes.
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  16. 09-28-2011 07:17 AM #16
    My stockers aren't what they used to be w/44k miles on them now. I miss the way my car used to grunt and hunker down, like it did on that first test drive. I think I'm going to get this. Can't wait for your solution to the other side! My car lifts rly bad too when I rev the motor. I can't wait to get this worn mount out and pop this sucker in!

  17. 09-28-2011 11:39 AM #17
    ^^agreed. i've got 72K on my '08 Rabbit and the motor/tranny mounts feel like they've already sh*t the bed. whenever i let off the gas the car jerks very hard, and the motor has a TON of flex under throttle. it's starting to drive me bananas. i'm surprised at how poorly the OEM mounts have been constructed...this is the first VW/Audi I've owned that has experienced the issue to this extent.
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  18. 09-28-2011 03:41 PM #18
    Yeh its no secret that VW's, especially the base models, have a lot of soft rubber bushings that promote the "marshmellow" effect. Talk to anyone over the age of 40 and the "ride comfort" is usually first thing I hear about VW's lol.

    I on the other hand, slamming into speed bumps and hitting the on ramps at a lil excess of speed, have definitely worn mine out already. Can't wait to replace these and the strut bushings.

    What option do you have on strut bushings for the 09 5 speed 2.5? Does the 2.5 already have "vr6 bushings" or "audi bushings"? Or is there a rabbit specific part in there mucking things up?

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    09-29-2011 11:04 AM #19
    The stock mounts in modern VWs are all comfort and no performance that's for sure.
    This is a real photo of the stock trans insert:

    Looks like warm swiss cheese..

    Quote Originally Posted by kungfoojesus View Post
    ... What option do you have on strut bushings for the 09 5 speed 2.5? Does the 2.5 already have "vr6 bushings" or "audi bushings"? Or is there a rabbit specific part in there mucking things up?
    Currently, we do not stock MkV/MkVI strut bushings. These are far more durable then previous generations. That's not to say you shouldn't replace them after x amount of mileage, but with as fresh as the MkV/MkVI platform still is, it hasn't become a failure point for majority of enthusiasts.
    I personally replaced mine when I put some Koni coils on my Rabbit, but I have 60k and figured I may as well replace them while I was in there. Having a look at the stock mounts once I pulled them from the car, there was definitely plenty of life left in them. In hindsight, I should have saved my money.

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    10-04-2011 03:10 PM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
    Does that mena the engine mount is ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spdfrek View Post
    Does that mena the engine mount is ready?
    I wish it was, but still not ready for market.
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    10-04-2011 04:05 PM #23
    what is the difference between the bsh mount and this one? The insert i'm assuming keeps the stock mount but replaces the rubber with polyurethane? vs the bsh mount which is billet aluminum with the polyurethane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anile_eight View Post
    what is the difference between the bsh mount and this one? The insert i'm assuming keeps the stock mount but replaces the rubber with polyurethane? vs the bsh mount which is billet aluminum with the polyurethane?
    Our inserts are designed to replace the factory rubber insert while retaining the factory mount housing.
    We sell the inserts alone, as well as preassembled mounts.
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    BSH took a different design approach and developed a complete replacement mount.

    Our inserts are the most cost effective replacement for the soft, factory mounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post

    Our inserts are the most cost effective replacement for the soft, factory mounts.
    I tend to agree!

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    Free bump
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRumGTI View Post
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    Installed the stage 2 trans mount, great product for a great price. Easy to install too!!
    Awesome. Thanks for the feedback!
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    So Im confused, you guys are or arent building a full mount replacement similar to your 2.0t replacement mount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
    So Im confused, you guys are or arent building a full mount replacement similar to your 2.0t replacement mount?
    They have replacement mounts for the trans and engine. It's all on their site. You can get the insert of the complete kit.

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    10-12-2011 04:35 PM #32
    So then the answer is no. They have inserts and pre-assembled stock mounts with their insert...
    I was hoping they were designing a FULL replacement engine mount like they have for the 2.0t
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
    So then the answer is no. They have inserts and pre-assembled stock mounts with their insert...
    I was hoping they were designing a FULL replacement engine mount like they have for the 2.0t
    We have 2.5l billet engine side mounts and billet transmission mounts being developed that will be very similar to the replacement mounts for the FSI/TSI and VR6 platform.

    In terms of transmission side mounts for our cars right now, we offer inserts individually and preassembled OEM mounts with our insert like you've pointed out.
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    10-13-2011 01:04 PM #34
    Hi Pete, what is the ETA for the engine motor mount???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmrabbit View Post
    Hi Pete, what is the ETA for the engine motor mount???
    Still in development. 2.5l forum will be the first to know any new information.
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