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    Thread: BFI - Motor Mounts for your MK5, MK6, Beetle & B7 Passat

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      02-20-2012 12:16 AM #106
      Just wanted to drop in and post some feedback on the 2.5l engine mount..
      I've had the engine mount in since the day we posted pictures of it a little more then a week ago. MASSIVE improvement over stock.
      Significantly less bucking/jerking at low speeds, on and off throttle and dramatically less engine movement under load; especially when shifting at 7,200rpm pushing ~10 pounds of boost.
      It feels so good to have a proper engine mount cradling the 2.5l.

      *Forgot to mention - price and availability coming soon.
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      02-20-2012 01:46 AM #107
      I am trying to remember if the reservoirs for the windshield wiper fluid and coolant bubble is connected to the OEM mount.
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      02-20-2012 01:56 AM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by alwaysdutch View Post
      I am trying to remember if the reservoirs for the windshield wiper fluid and coolant bubble is connected to the OEM mount.
      Coolant reservoir hose connects to the top of the OEM mount.
      There's a rubber hose from the bottle that becomes a hardline then back to rubber hose before it makes it's way to the front if the engine. The hardline portion is what's bolted to the top of the mount.
      We'll be keeping an eye on the line to see if a bracket is necessary.
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      02-20-2012 11:35 AM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      Coolant reservoir hose connects to the top of the OEM mount.
      There's a rubber hose from the bottle that becomes a hardline then back to rubber hose before it makes it's way to the front if the engine. The hardline portion is what's bolted to the top of the mount.
      We'll be keeping an eye on the line to see if a bracket is necessary.
      Tuck it, and replace with a full hose.
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      02-28-2012 09:58 PM #110
      I have the trans mount that only has two bolt mounts in front as opposed to the 3 bolt shown in the picture at the first post. i was wondering if the mount inserts were also different or if i can go ahead and get these inserts. my car is in dire need of some stability!
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      02-28-2012 10:27 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      Just wanted to drop in and post some feedback on the 2.5l engine mount..
      I've had the engine mount in since the day we posted pictures of it a little more then a week ago. MASSIVE improvement over stock.
      Significantly less bucking/jerking at low speeds, on and off throttle and dramatically less engine movement under load; especially when shifting at 7,200rpm pushing ~10 pounds of boost.
      It feels so good to have a proper engine mount cradling the 2.5l.

      *Forgot to mention - price and availability coming soon.
      Any more news Pete?

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      02-28-2012 11:03 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      We're in the process of finalizing development for the engine side motor mount.
      There were a couple bumps in the road, but we're not letting that stop us from getting it to market.
      so they ready?... I'm excited for it! lol
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      02-29-2012 11:13 AM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by burkedub711 View Post
      I have the trans mount that only has two bolt mounts in front as opposed to the 3 bolt shown in the picture at the first post. i was wondering if the mount inserts were also different or if i can go ahead and get these inserts. my car is in dire need of some stability!
      Our transmission mount insert works in all Mk5/Mk6 vehicles, regardless of which trans mount housing your car came with.

      Quote Originally Posted by SocoJoe View Post
      Any more news Pete?
      Quote Originally Posted by Anile_eight View Post
      so they ready?... I'm excited for it! lol
      Still finalizing a few things in regards to price. We're still ironing out some supply details so that we can bring the mount to market at the lowest price possible. There's lots of billet aluminum and CNC work on this mount!

      I'll tell you this much - our 2.5T project has been enjoying the new mounts.
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      02-29-2012 11:40 AM #114
      videos?
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      02-29-2012 11:59 AM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      Our transmission mount insert works in all Mk5/Mk6 vehicles, regardless of which trans mount housing your car came with.
      cool. ill be placing my order tonight
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    11. 02-29-2012 01:17 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      new mounts.
      Any details on the rest of them?

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      02-29-2012 02:34 PM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by nickbeezy View Post
      videos?
      We're finishing the pictures and videos from the 2.5T project build and photoshoot.
      Our media guy is working on 3 or 4 projects right now. He's a machine.

      Quote Originally Posted by DerekH View Post
      Any details on the rest of them?
      Complete replacement transmission mount
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      02-29-2012 02:57 PM #118
      hmm well WHEN are you guys going to releasing the new mount!?!? i'd like to give you my money for one right now, but unfortunately you have no way of accepting it!
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    14. 02-29-2012 04:15 PM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      Complete replacement transmission mount
      Are there plans for a pendulum?

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      03-08-2012 12:52 PM #120
      Pete, any news on the motor mount?

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      03-08-2012 01:00 PM #121
      Quote Originally Posted by GTACanuck View Post
      Pete, any news on the motor mount?
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      03-08-2012 01:04 PM #122
      The season has ramped up significantly and we're experiencing a high volume of business.
      We're doing our best to get the media out and the motor mount.
      Our manufacturing partner is finishing the first batch of 2.5l motor mounts and we're testing our complete replacement transmission mount in our Stage III+ FSI.
      Good things are coming, it's just taking a little longer then proposed!

      Working hard,

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      03-08-2012 01:07 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      The season has ramped up significantly and we're experiencing a high volume of business.
      We're doing our best to get the media out and the motor mount.
      Our manufacturing partner is finishing the first batch of 2.5l motor mounts and we're testing our complete replacement transmission mount in our Stage III+ FSI.
      Good things are coming, it's just taking a little longer then proposed!

      Working hard,

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      Thanks for the update Pete!

      I guess we should be expecting announcement of the motor mount soon if your partner is almost done the first batch

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      03-16-2012 12:18 PM #125
      ^^ Just watched that vid from FB.

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      03-16-2012 02:53 PM #126
      motor mount looks great, but i need to keep my mind distracted because it's not available yet.

      loved the Detroit representation by the driver of such an awesome bunny
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      03-16-2012 03:03 PM #127
      Quote Originally Posted by LampyB View Post
      loved the Detroit representation by the driver of such an awesome bunny
      Gotta rep my hometown.
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      03-16-2012 04:58 PM #128
      emminem background music, anyone?

      nice vid!

      cant wait for a dyno.

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      03-20-2012 02:34 PM #129
      what's this facebook news about just releasing the new MKV motor mounts to customers in the UK?

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      03-21-2012 01:06 PM #130
      Quote Originally Posted by LampyB View Post
      what's this facebook news about just releasing the new MKV motor mounts to customers in the UK?

      No, no.. The UK guys didn't get the 2.5l mount. Just some FSI/TSI stuff and our trans inserts.
      The 2.5l is coming soon, I promise. Just waiting for production to finish.
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      03-25-2012 02:53 AM #131
      article link:http://blackforestindustries.com/blo...-engine-mount/


      After a lengthy period of design and testing we are finally proud to announce the release of our complete replacement engine side mount for Mk5 and Mk6 2.5 5 cylinder vehicles.

      This mount will completely replace your old, tired, hydraulic engine-side motor mount. The weakest of the 3 engine mounts, the passenger side is fluid filled by Volkswagen/Audi to aid in creating a softer, cushier ride.

      This softness is a detriment to performance and overall longevity as the fluid within the mount can often cause premature failure. We eliminate this possibility by replacing the mount completely with our proprietary bushing and bracket design.

      Maximizing bushing area to minimize vibration where possible gives our mount the advantage of having the best ride characteristics possible from a urethane bushing mount.


      Stage 1 with its 65a durometer bushings are geared towards the spirited enthusiast who wants better control over motor movement without the sacrifice of excessive vibrations. Its our recommendation for all 5cyl street cars.


      Stage 2 with its 85a durometer bushings are more for the hardcore enthusiast who is more concerned with performance than cabin vibration, it is a great choice for spirited runs and track cars.

      Utilizing laser scanning technology – we are the first to offer a solution that gives a factory fit and finish to each mount. All bosses are matched replicas of the stock locations, and all tool clearances and specs are maintained.

      We are the first to develop a fully Billet Replacement arm for the 2.5 engine mount application. The use of billet aluminum instead of cast and an increase in minimum thickness creates a mount that is dramatically stronger than the cast stock arm.

      Each engine bracket employs a double interlock design. When assembled it doesn’t simply rely on the shear strength of the bolts holding it together, it is doubly supported. The inner tubes nest into the recesses of the center portion of the bracket, and the arm is in-turn notched to allow the center portion to nest inside the arm. This double interlock design removes shear stress from the bolts and makes the mount much stronger as a whole.

      As you can see above – the two pieces “lock” together when mated – and the socket bolts are under assembly tension load:

      buy

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      i am stoked it is released and am about to buy
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      03-25-2012 03:30 AM #132
      Looks like a much more robust setup then other options.
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      This is exactly what I was looking for
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      03-25-2012 11:37 AM #134
      pete, your turbo rabbit running the stage 1 mount right? have you tried the stage 2 in there yet?
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      03-25-2012 12:40 PM #135
      any possibility for a group buy???

      but it would probably be a struggle getting people to commit to it

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      03-25-2012 02:27 PM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by DrivenAllDay View Post
      any possibility for a group buy???

      but it would probably be a struggle getting people to commit to it
      I'm in
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      03-25-2012 03:14 PM #137
      Is it me or is the price a bit unrealistic??
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      03-25-2012 03:23 PM #138
      I thought the same too, but then i compared it to BSH which is $300(78 durometer). The other MKV mounts are about $200 at the most.
      but after looking at the design, it is 2 pieces where the other MKV BFI mounts seem to be one billet piece. Also in comparison to the BSH mount i think this looks more solid. but idk $300 is really more like a reasonable price imo.
      when i eventually order it and put it on, ill do a review. im thinking stage 2
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      03-25-2012 03:48 PM #139
      Quote Originally Posted by nickbeezy View Post
      I thought the same too, but then i compared it to BSH which is $300(78 durometer). The other MKV mounts are about $200 at the most.
      but after looking at the design, it is 2 pieces where the other MKV BFI mounts seem to be one billet piece. Also in comparison to the BSH mount i think this looks more solid. but idk $300 is really more like a reasonable price imo.
      when i eventually order it and put it on, ill do a review. im thinking stage 2

      The exact reason I'm interested in a group buy I was all ready to purchase the mount, I was
      actually sweating BFI pretty hard for it, but if I would have known it was going to be 350.00+ shipping
      I could have planned better, as I have been dumping money into the car the last few weeks.

      If it were 300.00, I'd be waiting on a tracking number. Plus the BSH mount is on ebay 285.00 free shipping. Blue Water sells it for 285.00 also.
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      03-25-2012 05:20 PM #140
      Than there is the price for the billett material, which I don't care for..... Maybe they can fabricate a non-billett version with the same stage 2 block for less.
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