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    Thread: BFI - Motor Mounts for your MK5, MK6, Beetle & B7 Passat

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      03-25-2012 05:13 PM #141
      This is the better option IMO at the moment. Billet is superior due to the actual metal molecules essentially being in line and grained in a tighter order. Its clearly expensive, but Realky is worth the cost. be sure to note the cost and time widdling down a chunk of material the size of a foot ball down to this... I do wish I could get the stage 2 duro in black or red, but that's no biggie.

      Maybe knocking some cost off would be good. I know this is the motor mount I've been waiting on for sure
      god i love my car. it may not be fast, but it's crazy fun!



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      03-25-2012 07:11 PM #142
      i just wanted to add:

      it does look good, im almost tempted to try one... and the fact that it has "factory clearances" is important... its very tempting

      Right now my BSH motor mount has over 20k and it still works wonders. plus, it looks VERY good it being all black, cause it goes with the tranny mount (i have yet to see a BFI tranny mount).. oh, i got it for 280

      but with all said: at 350 it seems a bit steep for 1 mount.

      anyways, good job BFI! i loved the insert, and i'd love to try this... but "fix" the price.

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      03-25-2012 07:28 PM #143
      The price is fine. I say deal with it. Billet is stronger and a more expensive material.
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      03-25-2012 09:08 PM #144
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      03-26-2012 10:10 AM #145
      Quote Originally Posted by thygreyt View Post

      but with all said: at 350 it seems a bit steep for 1 mount. i loved the insert, and i'd love to try this... but "fix" the price.
      uhh yeah, $350 is steep but $400 when not "on sale" seems absurd for a Stage 1 mount. unless there's a group buy for about $300 i'm officially out on this one for quite some time. too many other things i need for the car. this is a pretty big bummer, i was set to buy one immediately but it's not going to happen at that price. i'll go ahead and buy the HPA puck instead, which at about $200 still seems expensive...but it's nearly half the price of BFI's mount on sale.

      i understand the billet is more expensive and stronger, but for a Stage 1 setup is it really necessary?
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      03-26-2012 10:59 AM #146
      I'm happy to see people check out our website for new products.
      We waited to see if anyone would see the mount on our website over the weekend before we posted it in the forums/Facebook.

      We knew the price would be an issue with some people and that's ok.
      We set out to produce the best complete replacement engine mount for the 2.5l. Period.

      Believe me, if we could offer the mount at a lower price we would. It's just is not possible given the material cost, production cost and engineering that went into bringing this mount to market.

      There's no doubt in our mind that anyone who buys this mount, as soon as they take delivery, will fully realize the quality and craftsmanship of the product they purchased.

      Quote Originally Posted by pennsydubbin View Post
      pete, your turbo rabbit running the stage 1 mount right? have you tried the stage 2 in there yet?
      Yes, Stage 1 mount. I have not tried Stage 2 yet and probably won't to be honest.
      The Stage 1 feels nice and tight, without excessive vibrations. I honestly don't see a need for me to go to a stiffer poly with my current setup.

      This mount is also designed for the 2.5T in the TTRS - slight change to mounting points in the center bracket, but virtually the same mount - and we've provided a Stage 2 unit to someone running lots and lots of horsepower.
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      03-26-2012 11:01 AM #147
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      I'm happy to see people check out our website for new products.
      We waited to see if anyone would see the mount on our website over the weekend before we posted it in the forums/Facebook.

      We knew the price would be an issue with some people and that's ok.
      We set out to produce the best complete replacement engine mount for the 2.5l. Period.

      Believe me, if we could offer the mount at a lower price we would. It's just is not possible given the material cost, production cost and engineering that went into bringing this mount to market.

      There's no doubt in our mind that anyone who buys this mount, as soon as they take delivery, will fully realize the quality and craftsmanship of the product they purchased.
      already liked it on FB!

      it does look like a great product.

    8. 03-26-2012 11:32 AM #148
      if u get stage 2 and its to hard can you buy just buy the stage 1 insert seperate

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      03-26-2012 12:19 PM #149
      Is there no insert like the trans mount? or was there no way to do that?
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      03-26-2012 12:54 PM #150
      I guess I'll just order it here in a few days.

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      03-26-2012 01:16 PM #151
      Quote Originally Posted by motoduderyan View Post
      if u get stage 2 and its to hard can you buy just buy the stage 1 insert seperate
      Quote Originally Posted by Anile_eight View Post
      Is there no insert like the trans mount? or was there no way to do that?
      Yes, we sell polyurethane inserts separately for our complete replacement mounts.
      Inserts alone-
      Stage 1: http://store.blackforestindustries.c...ensimomor.html
      Stage 2: http://store.blackforestindustries.c...nsimomor1.html

      Remember, you need to have our complete replacement mounts to use these inserts. These are not like our transmission mount inserts (which can be used in your stock trans mount).
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      03-26-2012 01:33 PM #152
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      Yes, we sell polyurethane inserts separately for our complete replacement mounts.
      Inserts alone-
      Stage 1: http://store.blackforestindustries.c...ensimomor.html
      Stage 2: http://store.blackforestindustries.c...nsimomor1.html

      Remember, you need to have our complete replacement mounts to use these inserts. These are not like our transmission mount inserts (which can be used in your stock trans mount).
      Thanks, that's what I thought. I'll have to save up some but it looks really good! I love the Stage I trans insert, so i'm excited for the engine mount. Good job guys!
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      03-28-2012 04:27 PM #153
      ok, so thanks BFI for sending me such a nice product. at first yeah the price does seem kinda steep but think about this.
      i purchased the new bolts from the stealership b/c i wasnt sure if they were included in the BFI package. they cost me about $40 with some discount.
      however when i received my package today the mount came complete with all the bolts necessary, and a sweet koozie
      this thing is pretty and feels robust and i think its worth every penny.
      oh and i forgot to mention how quick shipping was


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      03-28-2012 04:56 PM #154
      Hell yeah, dude.
      We appreciate your business! Enjoy!
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      03-28-2012 05:01 PM #155
      Wow,that thing looks really nice
      I'm still undecided if i'm going to go with stage 1 or stage 2
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      03-28-2012 05:09 PM #156
      Quote Originally Posted by pennsydubbin View Post
      ... I'm still undecided if i'm going to go with stage 1 or stage 2
      I've have Stage 1 engine mount & trans insert. Feels GREAT
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      03-28-2012 05:23 PM #157
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      I've have Stage 1 engine mount & trans insert. Feels GREAT
      well in that case there's really no need to question it anymore. I'll go stage 1 engine and trans. I can always upgrade if I want
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    18. 03-28-2012 06:11 PM #158
      You really don't realize how massive and burly that thing is until you have something to compare it to. Looks like great work guys.

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      03-28-2012 08:18 PM #159
      install is complete, simple and quick. i can do a review and post some pics for comparison. in the meantime ill be to busy enjoying my new part
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      03-28-2012 10:17 PM #160
      engine feedback is awesome! slight vibrations in the cabin, nothing crazy (i almost wish i went stage 2). the motor doesn't do backflips in the engine bay anymore like that water filled bushing. it does not move around at all. the car feels much sportier now and more responsive. and maybe im crazy, but it sounds a bit different now.
      from a dig and launching at wot, the car has no wheel hop and stays planted. also, when i hit redline the car no longer jerks when coming off the gas pedal. im very pleased

      how long does it take to break these in?




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      03-28-2012 10:25 PM #161
      Quote Originally Posted by nickbeezy View Post
      ...slight vibrations in the cabin, nothing crazy (i almost wish i went stage 2)...
      really? what makes you wish you went stage 2? do you feel that the stage 1 is a little softer than you though it was going to be?

      sorry for all the questions just want to make the right choice for my car!
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      03-28-2012 10:33 PM #162
      Quote Originally Posted by pennsydubbin View Post
      really? what makes you wish you went stage 2? do you feel that the stage 1 is a little softer than you though it was going to be?

      sorry for all the questions just want to make the right choice for my car!
      idk, i was almost expecting something bone jarring.
      i have stage 2 BFI subframe mount already
      and i remember that sometimes i stalled out when i was trying to get out of first trying to break that bitch in. that mount felt bone jarring at times.

      this one is soft but doesnt flex much.
      honestly i feel the stage 2 might just be more vibration than actual performance gain.

      pete talked me into getting the stage 1 because its my daily driver, and i still need to drive it moar to really decide if i want to upgrade later down the road.


      my stock motor mount only has 67500 as of today but damn that thing really flexed alot
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      03-28-2012 10:47 PM #163
      @Nickbreezy -- what intake manifold is that?

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      Quote Originally Posted by SimpleStaple View Post
      @Nickbreezy -- what intake manifold is that?
      United Motorsports Manifold, HEP manufactured it for UM.

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      03-28-2012 10:55 PM #165
      Quote Originally Posted by SimpleStaple View Post
      @Nickbreezy -- what intake manifold is that?
      Quote Originally Posted by DrivenAllDay View Post
      United Motorsports Manifold, HEP manufactured it for UM.
      this
      awesome combo with this motor mount why didnt the car come like this?
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      03-28-2012 11:04 PM #166
      Quote Originally Posted by DrivenAllDay View Post
      United Motorsports Manifold, HEP manufactured it for UM.
      Thanks -- was thrown off by that logo on the bottom of it.

      Sucks they won't fit the MKVI's...

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      03-29-2012 01:50 AM #167
      stage 3?

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      03-29-2012 09:35 AM #168
      The mount is Ordered, so now I can be cool too!

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      03-29-2012 11:13 AM #169
      nickbeezy,

      Thanks for the pictures and feedback. Mucho appreciated!

      Break-in is usually 100 miles or so. Once it breaks in the vibrations will be almost non-existent.

      I have no experience with Stage 2 inserts on this mount, but given how well the Stage 1 has performed in my 2.5T, I don't see the need to go Stage 2.

      Who's going to be the first to go Stage 2?


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      Quote Originally Posted by Pat @ Pitt Soundworks View Post
      stage 3?
      Stage 3 can be done. We have Delrin bushings available for it.
      If you're seriously interested, shoot us an e-mail to sales@blackforestindustries.com
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      03-29-2012 11:19 AM #170
      Quote Originally Posted by DrivenAllDay View Post
      The mount is Ordered, so now I can be cool too!
      stage 1 or 2?

      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      nickbeezy,

      Thanks for the pictures and feedback. Mucho appreciated!
      thanks BFI for making awesome mounts.

      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      We set out to produce the best complete replacement engine mount for the 2.5l. Period.

      There's no doubt in our mind that anyone who buys this mount, as soon as they take delivery, will fully realize the quality and craftsmanship of the product they purchased.

      these are true words. the mount comes complete with the new hardware. and quality is top notch.
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      03-29-2012 12:27 PM #171
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
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      Thank You.

      Quote Originally Posted by nickbeezy View Post
      stage 1 or 2?
      Stage 1

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      03-29-2012 08:13 PM #172
      Stage 3 can be done. We have Delrin bushings available for it.
      If you're seriously interested, shoot us an e-mail to sales@blackforestindustries.com
      I sent you an email. sorry about the casual-ness of it - I was a big preoccupied.
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      03-29-2012 10:24 PM #173
      the mount has 100 miles on it now. i this so much that im gonna order your tranny mount ASAP. i seriously want the whole set.
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      03-30-2012 01:59 PM #174
      ok ok i just bit the bullet and bought the Stage 1 motor mount. i've been highly awaiting its release, and now that its available i couldn't hold back. even pricier after shipping, but i know i'm going to be happy with the product's overall quality...

      just wish i was at a computer earlier to make the order so that i would have gotten the VW matchbox car as well
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      03-30-2012 03:23 PM #175
      Quote Originally Posted by LampyB View Post
      ok ok i just bit the bullet and bought the Stage 1 motor mount. i've been highly awaiting its release, and now that its available i couldn't hold back. even pricier after shipping, but i know i'm going to be happy with the product's overall quality...

      just wish i was at a computer earlier to make the order so that i would have gotten the VW matchbox car as well
      We appreciate your business. Thanks so much.
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