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    08-30-2011 12:36 AM #1
    This will be mine first DIY. First thanks to Kg810 and Stylist07 for the info. this is base on the thread http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/in...c,16607.0.html and some pic reuse from that also.

    Item list:
    5mm Clear Red LED 40 pcs
    100 ohm resistor 1/4 watt 10 pcs
    18 gauge wire
    One pair Valeo LED inner tail light

    Tools list:
    Hot glue gun
    soldering iron
    flat head screw driver
    wire cutters
    nose pliers
    Drill and 13/64 drill bit and a smaller drill bit.
    dremel
    a glove
    VAG-COM

    Before you start the mod make sure this is you want to do because you might kill $400 tail light sets

    Here we goes....

    Use flat head screwdriver, SLOWLY pry open between the lens cover and the back housing. Start with one area, gently pry the lens cover until you hear the soft cracking then work on the next. if you start to see the crack start go toward the surface STOP, work from the reverse side.


    Once you take out the lens cover. turn it over. you will see the 8 points you will need to use the nose pliers to remove the melted plastic that holds the inner housing. In the picture, the circle in green are what it looks like before remove the plastic and in blue is what will look like once you remove the plastic


    After you remove the 8 the melted plastics, you can take out the silver housing that holds the fog/reverse light

    then the red/clear cover and the clear lens

    full disassemble of inner light


    VERY VERY important DO NOT touch the chrome part of inner housing it will get your prints and if you try to clean it... the paint will come off.... wear a glove or you will repaint them....


    Use the small drill bit to pre drill the housing then use the 13/64 drill bit.. again do it slow and and use the low rpm setting on the drill. you will drill 20 holes.


    Temporary reassemble the chrome part of housing, you will notice part of inner housing has no room on the back side because is sitting against the outer housing.
    Here is where the dremel comes in.. use the dremel to sand down surrounding holes on some of back side to make some room for the LED and at same time fix of base of pointed long legs where next to the hole so the led will sit correctly.. (sorry don't have picture..)

    Assemble the LED:
    the longer leg is + and the short leg is the ground


    Now set the LEDs in the holes you just drilled and solider with 5 leds at the time. you will solider them negative leg to positive leg alternating then solider one resistor at the positive leg


    You are going to make 4 sets of 5 led lights to a string with one resistor on each string. By the time you done should look like this


    Use one wire to connect the resistor then other wire to connect all the negative. In the picture, I use green wire for ground and red wire for the positive


    After that is done, its a good time to test out the LEDs by use the 12v battery from your drill tool


    after test out the light, use hot glue to hold the leds and insulate the wires

    Drill the a small hold on the side of outer house to let the new wires out. again do it slowly..

    reassemble the light and the housing. use hot glue on the 8 points where you removed the melded plastic


    put back the lens cover then hot glue the edge. then you are done.. just have to work other side..

    You might want to add one more resistor on the new wire coming out the housing if the light is too bright. (I have to because the led i use is 15000mcd otherwise people behind me won't see anything)

    When comes to wiring the car I took out the truck panels then ran the wire down the black tube into the side wall.


    Just have to open up the airbag panel


    If you wire base on this this thread http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...LED-Taillights all you have to is to connect the to the park light wire and ground wire. The new light will do driving light and brake light..
    If you want to disable the center light of outer tail light, use VAGCOM in the Central Electronics Module long coding, bits 9 through 13 to 00 00 00 0F 00 http://golfmkv.com/forums/showthread...ight=led+tails


    Finished products



    installed on the car


    If you are intersted doing the mod and have questions. I will be more than welcome to answer you.
    Last edited by foreverblue; 08-31-2011 at 07:08 AM.
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    08-30-2011 03:21 AM #3
    How bout i buy the tails and send them to you and send em back all pretty...good job anyhow...
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    08-30-2011 03:53 AM #4
    Still one of the biggest bosses I have ever met.

    Thanks for this write up. Killing it Wei.

    Also, you should get some LED license bulbs.
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    08-30-2011 07:33 AM #6
    Quote Originally Posted by gottiR32 View Post
    How bout i buy the tails and send them to you and send em back all pretty...good job anyhow...
    you will miss out the fun of this DIY... every step I did I was hoping.. please don't f up, please don't f up lol

    Quote Originally Posted by PSU View Post
    Still one of the biggest bosses I have ever met.

    Thanks for this write up. Killing it Wei.

    Also, you should get some LED license bulbs.
    Thanks boss... I was thinking about to covert to all to LED, too.
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    08-30-2011 05:18 PM #7
    There is also be a kit (that was) available, but I don't have the link on my work computer.

    Nicely done write-up! I've always lamented the fact the inner rings were 'fake' on our platform.

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    08-30-2011 05:27 PM #8
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    08-30-2011 05:39 PM #9
    If you ever get into the market of doing these for people, let me know! I'm so in! LOL! Honestly don't have the want to try and do it myself

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    08-30-2011 05:50 PM #10
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    08-30-2011 06:53 PM #12
    Good writeup!

    Jon Sibal did a writeup on his blog a few years ago as well.

    http://jonsibal.com/blog/2008/11/mk5...light-project/
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    08-30-2011 06:58 PM #13
    thanks all

    Quote Originally Posted by skaven-R32 View Post
    There is also be a kit (that was) available, but I don't have the link on my work computer.
    !! there was a kit...... !! I would get if it's available.. how much did it cost?? The leds and resistor cost me around $20.. and about total of 6 hours of work include the wiring in the car
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    Quote Originally Posted by willlangford View Post
    Good writeup!

    Jon Sibal did a writeup on his blog a few years ago as well.

    http://jonsibal.com/blog/2008/11/mk5...light-project/
    the tutorial i was trying to follow is base on the jetta's led light, but the housing is totally different...
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    Quote Originally Posted by foreverblue View Post
    the tutorial i was trying to follow is base on the jetta's led light, but the housing is totally different...
    Yea, exactly. Yours is great. now I just need to figure out how to do this with Euro tails. I'm not a fan of how the LED housings look. Thanks again for a great writeup.
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    Def a boss mod

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    08-30-2011 11:41 PM #19
    Here is a theory, could use 5mm bi color LED run one more wire 5 more resistor per side. could do the park, turn and brake light just like the outer light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willlangford View Post
    Yea, exactly. Yours is great. now I just need to figure out how to do this with Euro tails. I'm not a fan of how the LED housings look. Thanks again for a great writeup.
    what is the Euro inner back side looks like, i might have an idea..
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    Quote Originally Posted by foreverblue View Post
    what is the Euro inner back side looks like, i might have an idea..
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    08-31-2011 06:58 AM #22

    you don't want to drill any holes on the red part of housing (not the cover)
    if there is one more piece sit between the red housing and the outside housing, you could use couple clear led mount it on it... If not, you might have sit the leds on the back side of outside housing..
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    I could never do this.
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    08-31-2011 12:51 PM #24
    Yea.. right now it's not very high up on the list, if/when I do this mod I'll pick up a new set of tails and mod them.
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    08-31-2011 01:23 PM #25
    Love it! Good DIY! I'd actually love to have some tails like that but I'm too terrified to crack them open since I'm not a very patient person... Don't want to go and blow $400 just to break them.
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    Nicely done! The manual is very good but doing it is not that easy.
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    why did you have to wire them into the car rather than just tapping into the stock wiring harness???

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    "Use one wire to connect the resistor then other wire to connect all the negative. In the picture, I use green wire for ground and red wire for the positive"


    Could you exlpain this one again. for some reason i feel like you did more than what the picture showed.

    Im going to try this out on a pair of stock headlights i have sitting in my basement.

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    09-12-2011 07:54 AM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by eyepoppet View Post
    why did you have to wire them into the car rather than just tapping into the stock wiring harness???
    I tapped into the stock outer tail light wire harness. I ran the wire from the hatch to the outer tail light connector.

    Quote Originally Posted by eyepoppet View Post
    "Use one wire to connect the resistor then other wire to connect all the negative. In the picture, I use green wire for ground and red wire for the positive"


    Could you exlpain this one again. for some reason i feel like you did more than what the picture showed.

    Im going to try this out on a pair of stock headlights i have sitting in my basement.

    follow the green wire, you will see I use the single wire start with the top and went counterclock around the leds connect the 4 grounds. same with the red wire, start at top went counterclock (under the electric tape is the resistor) connect the 4 resistors.
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    ordered some LEDs a few days ago. going to figure out how to do this with the oem gti inner tails. The inner red lens is different and clearance might be a problem but i figured i could cut away from it and make it work..the LEDs only cost like 10 bucks lol so who cares if if i **** it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyepoppet View Post
    ordered some LEDs a few days ago. going to figure out how to do this with the oem gti inner tails. The inner red lens is different and clearance might be a problem but i figured i could cut away from it and make it work..the LEDs only cost like 10 bucks lol so who cares if if i **** it up.
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    09-07-2012 10:34 PM #33
    Incredible job! I'd love to see some better pics, maybe a car park et-al, to get an idea of how they look on both sides but man, I'm loving it! ditto on the if-you-decide-to-do-it-for-pay-i'm-likely-down

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    11-30-2012 05:38 PM #34
    I read you used 15000mcd, but what was the Wavelength? 630Nm??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhimarko View Post
    I read you used 15000mcd, but what was the Wavelength? 630Nm??
    619-622nm
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