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      09-02-2011 10:20 PM #1
      Yesterday I flushed my cars oil, and replaced both the valve cover gasket and the oil pan gasket. After all done, I started the car and oil was seeping out the back of the valve cover. Gasket is 1 piece ordered from germanautoparts.com. New studs were included with the kit, but were not installed. Any ideas?

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      09-02-2011 10:20 PM #2
      Car is 1987 cabriolet.

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      09-02-2011 10:33 PM #3
      I'm guessing the fact that you didn't replace the studs, is what the problem is. Those studs have a different shape to allow the new gasket to seal fully. No studs, no seal.

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      09-02-2011 10:37 PM #4
      Alright I'll give it a shot when I get off work. Will old ones will one out with vice grips? Hah

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      09-02-2011 11:00 PM #5
      If you could lock two nuts together real tight, then you could use the nuts to back out the old.

      I haven't done this but reading here for a couple years, people said its not easy to get them out.

      Yes last resort use vise grips, but try NOT to break a stud in the hole..thats real bad.

      Read up in this old thread.

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      09-03-2011 03:21 AM #6
      Thanks for the help. Installing the new studs worked beautifully.

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      09-03-2011 03:57 AM #7
      Is it the cork valve cover gasket? Those dont like to be over tightened and leak...
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      09-03-2011 09:36 PM #8
      nah, I upgraded to the 1 piece rubber gasket. It was leaking, but since I installed the new studs, It hasn't leaked a drop.

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      09-03-2011 10:20 PM #9
      And you tightened the nut to 87 in/lbs?
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      09-04-2011 12:40 AM #10
      I guessed the 87lb. I dont think the gasket is coming loose any time soon

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      09-04-2011 09:17 AM #11
      yep got to use the new studs. The old studs have a shoulder in them near the head to prevent crushing the old style cork gasket. The new studs are shoulderless because the new rubber gasket has its own metal insert to prevent crushing. old studs + new gasket = gap next to studs.

      Your not the first to make this mistake I did the same thing 7 years ago with the same results. The only difference was that when I was removing my last "double nut" I dropped it into the oil return hole in the corner and had to fish it out of the oil pan.

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      09-04-2011 10:45 AM #12
      I just did this last week, just get some vises and back the old studs out, mine were not that tight, then replace the studs tighten it down working your way from the opposite corners. Then torque it all to spec.

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      09-04-2011 06:33 PM #13
      I've tried the two nut method and it doesn't always work as the nuts may slip. A better way is to add a washer or two between the two nuts.

      Quote Originally Posted by CajunSpike View Post
      If you could lock two nuts together real tight, then you could use the nuts to back out the old.

      I haven't done this but reading here for a couple years, people said its not easy to get them out.

      Yes last resort use vise grips, but try NOT to break a stud in the hole..thats real bad.

      Read up in this old thread.

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...t=piece+gasket

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      09-04-2011 06:54 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by B5Speedo View Post
      A better way is to add a washer or two between the two nuts.
      never heard of that, guess you can teach an old dog new tricks
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      09-05-2011 01:49 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by B5Speedo View Post
      I've tried the two nut method and it doesn't always work as the nuts may slip.
      And sometimes, it just plain doesn't work. All but 2 or 3 studs came out with just a wrench on mine; the others required Vice Grips with sandpaper.
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      09-05-2011 12:06 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by kamzcab86 View Post
      And sometimes, it just plain doesn't work. All but 2 or 3 studs came out with just a wrench on mine; the others required Vice Grips with sandpaper.
      Glad to hear you got them out.

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      09-05-2011 12:09 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by briano1234 View Post
      And you tightened the nut to 87 in/lbs?
      I still have the cork gasket on my '83 GTI with no leaks. Tightening the nuts slowly, a little bit at a time, and methodically is the key.

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