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      09-04-2011 10:13 PM #1
      in a sort of attempt share my experience about audio build:


      here is what i did, what i used and how i did it:

      instructions or idea: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-s-Audio-Build

      for sound deadenin: http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/showth...t=72157&page=2

      john's thread: http://forums.jettamkv.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2671

      amp tones: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/boa...one-sweeps-up/

      deadenin material: http://www.b-quiet.com/extreme.html

      list:

      for this build, i used several parts, most of them depicted.

      -Pioneer U310 BT
      -JL G4500 (Full range, 4 channel amp)
      -JL J2 250.1 (mono amp)
      -Focal 165 A3 (3 way front speakers)
      -Focal 165 A1 (2 way rear speakers)
      -Focal 25 A1 (trunk sub woofer)
      -nik ubber custom enclosure
      -50' 4 AWG power wires
      -100' 12 AWG oxigen free wire
      -2x 16' monster cable RCA (THX certified)
      -3' Monster Cable RCA (THX certified)


      this consists of several stages:
      -stage 1: install of Focal Speakers (full range) (8 hrs)
      -stage 2: Complete System re wire ( 50 hrs)
      -stage 3: Sub woofer and mono amp (5 hrs)
      -stage 4: sound deaden trunk, and under rear seats (15 hrs)
      -stage 4.5:Sound deaden door skins (not done)
      -stage 5:sound deaden all floor, pillars and misc (not done)



      this is how my sound WAS... 3 months away.



      diagrams for the new wiring for the new audio





      then its audio install time.



      FOCAL 165 A3 (front 3 way)


      FOCAL 165 A1 (rear 2 way)



      amps:

      JL G4500


      JL J2 250.1







      all cables recieved... time to start the build.


      focal sub...


      dash taken apart, cables prepped.



      all the new cable... good cable for better sound.


      partly back together.


      amps in place.


      focal crossover for the front 3 way


      how its wired, with the oxigen free 12 awg.


      everything apart, to accomodate the new wire.


      the door was appart, to be able to do the new wire.


      the clip where the wires are ran.

      took me 4 hrs, to put it back together... well.. its now working.

      can you see the wires??



      interior apart, for the audio build.



      all back together...kinda


      running the passenger side wires


      amped subwofer, in a custom enclosure. it looks OEMish.








      after the front, i did both rear doors, they dont have pics, but well.. its almost the same as doing the front doors.

      feel free to ask any question.

      Stock speakers size

      Front:
      - tweeter= tweeter
      - mid= 4"
      - woofer= 6.5" (round)

      rear:
      - tweet= tweet
      - woofer= 6.5"

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      09-04-2011 10:19 PM #2
      wish I still cared about audio but.....

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      09-04-2011 10:21 PM #3
      i love to drive the car, and i love the performance...

      but driving 15hrs trips with a crappy system, well... lol, no more!

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      09-04-2011 10:22 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by thygreyt View Post
      i love to drive the car, and i love the performance...

      but driving 15hrs trips with a crappy system, well... lol, no more!
      I fried some amps and gave up and decided low was my next plan of attack.

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      09-04-2011 11:30 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by thygreyt View Post
      i love to drive the car, and i love the performance...

      but driving 15hrs trips with a crappy system, well... lol, no more!
      ^ I dig the enthusiasm

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      09-04-2011 11:31 PM #6
      clean install man that's a lot of cash you put into it. i know it sounds great.

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      09-04-2011 11:45 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by kern417 View Post
      clean install man that's a lot of cash you put into it. i know it sounds great.
      it does sound amazing...!!

      but i didnt have to invest that much... i got both amps used, and the wires were on sale.

      plus, all of the speakers were:

      165 A3: $350
      165 A1: $150
      25 A1: $200

      so yes, they were on sale... and i didnt complain

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      09-05-2011 12:15 AM #8
      so did you order the PAC

      and if so, from where and how much?

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      09-05-2011 12:20 AM #9
      i do have both of the PAC controls for the buttons on the steering wheel...

      but i bought my stuff on amazon

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      09-05-2011 12:22 AM #10
      is pac only for use of the steering wheel buttons?

      or for general use?


      also did you amazon it? ebay it?
      and whats the model number?

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      09-05-2011 12:33 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by lifebetweenthetides View Post
      is pac only for use of the steering wheel buttons?

      or for general use?


      also did you amazon it? ebay it?
      and whats the model number?
      lol, whats general use?
      PAC is for steering wheel controls and

      as i said, everything on amazon.com

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      09-05-2011 12:38 AM #12
      like is the pac device ONLY for STEERING WHEEL controls?

      or do you need the pac device to get an aftermarket HU?

      can you hook up an aftermarket head unit to jetta mkv without the pac device?

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      09-05-2011 11:47 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by lifebetweenthetides View Post
      like is the pac device ONLY for STEERING WHEEL controls?

      or do you need the pac device to get an aftermarket HU?

      can you hook up an aftermarket head unit to jetta mkv without the pac device?
      The PAC is not needed for a aftermarket deck. Only if you want to have MFSW control, the PAC is then needed
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      09-05-2011 10:45 PM #15
      Thy greyt goin hard again!
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      09-06-2011 01:14 AM #16
      DAMN! Way to step up! Making my build look silly. I'll be back in full force come next Spring.

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      09-06-2011 09:50 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by lifebetweenthetides View Post
      like is the pac device ONLY for STEERING WHEEL controls?

      or do you need the pac device to get an aftermarket HU?

      can you hook up an aftermarket head unit to jetta mkv without the pac device?
      There are 2 different PAC adapters, one is for steering wheel controls, the other is for conversion between the stock pin block that all the speaker wires connect to to your new aftermarket HU. You need this PAC...unless you want to pull all the pins out and wire those to your HU. In my opinion, it was easier to use the PAC but I only replaced a few speakers and the HU, not the entire wiring setup.

      For more information about the PACs, I recommend looking at crutchfield.com, entering your car and looking at the recommendations. It tells you exactly what you need for your application. Check out link below:

      http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127C2RV...e.html?tp=3486

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      09-06-2011 11:01 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by AsymmetricalDichotomy View Post
      DAMN! Way to step up! Making my build look silly. I'll be back in full force come next Spring.
      make yours look silly? lol, you were the one who laid the instructions!!!

      the funy ting is that once you do one part, then you cant wait to do the next one.. and the next one... and the next one. lol.

      so, right now i'm almost done... except for the deadening... which i hope to do within 6 months.


      Quote Originally Posted by AKdub914 View Post
      Thy greyt goin hard again!
      thanks bro... i'm enjoying the system... its fun, sounds clear, and it helps to appreciate the music.

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      09-06-2011 09:03 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by thygreyt View Post

      the clip where the wires are ran.

      took me 4 hrs, to put it back together... well.. its now working.
      That clip is a massive PAIN!!! It took me several tries to get it back together!!

      Nice looking install

    20. 09-06-2011 09:28 PM #20
      i would s*** myself if i tried to do this

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      09-06-2011 09:32 PM #21
      Sweet Jesus that looks like a lot of work. Being allergic to work I suddenly find myself breaking out in hives... A proper install to say the least. I really love the 'schematic' you schemed up!
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      09-06-2011 09:39 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by SmithersSP View Post
      Sweet Jesus that looks like a lot of work. Being allergic to work I suddenly find myself breaking out in hives... A proper install to say the least. I really love the 'schematic' you schemed up!
      lol, it worked!



      in it you can see the head unit on top, all 4 channels consisting on the 3 ways of the front, the 2 ways on the rear, both amps, and the subwoffer, and all with the respective connections, power wires, etc. i like to plan ahead, in order to make everything smoother.

      and while it took me about 50 hrs to do the front doors and subwoffer, it only took me about 3 hrs to do the rears...

      thats cause the rears were just the same as the front, and i had already worked all the kinks, and i knew what to do and how to do so. and once you discover how to do the door connectors, then the install flies!

      love the result.

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      09-06-2011 09:51 PM #23
      saw it in person looks pretty good and all wires hidden pretty good

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      09-06-2011 10:26 PM #24
      looking good man, wish i had time and patience to do that
      I

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      09-06-2011 10:48 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Bnana View Post
      looking good man, wish i had time and patience to do that
      just take it 1 hr at the time.

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      09-07-2011 10:23 AM #26
      Almost makes me want to do it again , but Audiobahn doesnt really exist anymore, I love their speakers and component setups
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      09-07-2011 11:12 AM #27
      cant wait to get crackin on my setup whatever that will be?

      nice job

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      10-04-2011 10:48 AM #28
      What did you have to do to make the 4" speaker fit?

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      11-07-2011 01:41 AM #29
      I want to keep all of my audio build here...

      So update:
      Yesterday i ordered some sound deadening... Enough to cover the doors, trunk, spare tire well and under the rear seat...

      As soon as i doo it, you csn expect a write up with pics here...


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      11-07-2011 11:37 AM #30
      Awesome! Can't wait to see the progress on this. Sorry I haven't replied to your pm, I keep putting it off and telling myself I'll get to it. I procrastinate a lot.
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      11-07-2011 11:47 AM #31
      lol, dont even remember what the pm was about! lol.

      i ordered 100 sq ft of bquiet extreme. i looked around and there was quite a bit of people using it and generating good results.

      as soon as it arrives, i'll take pics.

      And a lil review on the previous work:

      its awesome. The sound quality of the focals is incredible. you feel like you were in front of the band, them playing live for you. the quality is trully outstanding. the thing is that my also Awesome exhaust "disturbs" with the concert in motion, so while its still good with the car rolling or not i want the interior to be a separate universe from the outside.

      wanna listen to the exhaust? lower the windows.

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      11-24-2011 06:48 PM #32
      continuiing... had some "holiday vacation time"

      starting the "stage 4", which is the install of sound deadening on the trunk floor and under the rear seats



      carpet, seats and amps removed.


      starting to measure, cut and lay down


      i got a little further, and then i called it quits for the day.


      after all, its turky day and turkey time!

      i'll finish tomorrow.

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      11-25-2011 10:47 PM #33
      continuing with the audio build, i kept on putting sound deadening...











      the seats were reinstalled, as were the amps. I only have to finish the trunk area to be done! it shall be completed tomorrow...

      eventually i'll get to the doors... and in due time (1 year?) i will do the complete floor... i'll just wait till its "necesary"

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      11-26-2011 12:49 PM #34
      Im starting this same project. I'm still debating if i want to attempt wiring it all myself, or having someone do it professionally. I hooked up my subs in my last car which was an E36 bmw 325i but it was super sloppy. I want this to be a little more legit.


      This is what I did on Thanksgiving.




      being crouched in a trunk for hours sucks doesnt it?

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      11-26-2011 12:52 PM #35
      Lol, it does kinda suks... But the resulylts are fun!!!

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