Back at it again - Slammed Supers

[71DubBugBug]

The back was lowered in the pic above just dropping the spring plates a couple clicks.

The way we are doing it now is by actually cutting up the rear trailing arm thanks to loosenutz! We will have a 4" drop with stop suspension travel.

Do you have pics?

[vw1303]

I know how you guys feel about the slammed supers thing....
I like the skidplate but I think you would be better off changing the inner pickup point
of the lower contol arm. Say moving it up 1-2" on the pan. Not that you really care about
handling when it is this slammed but this will help and also eliminate the chance of hitting
those tabs the hang really low. On my super I have bent/folded them over a little bit from
driving around slammed.





Slammed on those ATS wheels looks dope btw.

[GEETi]

I know how you guys feel about the slammed supers thing....
I like the skidplate but I think you would be better off changing the inner pickup point
of the lower contol arm. Say moving it up 1-2" on the pan. Not that you really care about
handling when it is this slammed but this will help and also eliminate the chance of hitting
those tabs the hang really low. On my super I have bent/folded them over a little bit from
driving around slammed.





Slammed on those ATS wheels looks dope btw.

Nice looking Bug

Now drift that thing around (like this one) and be the SB super star

[vw1303]

Thats the plan



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-MS_wMiZI

[71DubBugBug]

Thats the plan



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-MS_wMiZI

Yours? Thats awesome! Was watching that vid a few days ago.

[gsusmaniac]

Well... I haven't died. Just had a crap load going on through the holiday season. We were still getting work done, just not getting the pics and time I wanted to keep up with this thread.

So here we go, this will be a long reply but will show you guys what we have been up to! And I will try a little harder to maintain it.

I know how you guys feel about the slammed supers thing....
I like the skidplate but I think you would be better off changing the inner pickup point
of the lower contol arm. Say moving it up 1-2" on the pan. Not that you really care about
handling when it is this slammed but this will help and also eliminate the chance of hitting
those tabs the hang really low. On my super I have bent/folded them over a little bit from
driving around slammed.

Do you have pics?

First, yes here are some pics of the drop on the rear. I thought I took some pics of the jig and cutting, but I think they were on the Iphone that got sucks into the angle grinder

We have been contemplating raising the control arm mounts, just havent put any thought into it yet. Definitely something that I want to figure out though!

Anyways, here are the best ones I could find of the drop, if you have any questions, I could get some better pics.





In hindsight, we realized we should have done a 3" drop plate instead of 4" cause we ran into some issues with the lower shock mount. It pretty much sat on the ground before the wheel. So we cut it in half and then redrilled the hole higher and now have about an inch of clearance underneath it.





We also finished up the coils and got them all installed... pretty easy process building them. But we were a little ambitious the first time with lowering. We set the perches just high enough that they took up the slack in the spring and in they went!





And of course, the skid plate set down right on the ground!



So we raised them till we have about a half inch under the skid plate-





And this is our final product... I think we are gonna through some 16" porsche wheels with a little fatter tires, then pull the fenders and lower it some more. The wheels will raise it and fill in the fenders and I think give it a little better look. But for now I am happy!




We also picked up this nice little kit at BugJam this year that extends the pedal cluster. Gives you and extra inch between the brake and clutch pedal and make the assembly a lot smoother all around. I will get some pics up of that soon as we just got it put all together.

I know how you guys feel about the slammed supers thing....
I like the skidplate but I think you would be better off changing the inner pickup point
of the lower contol arm. Say moving it up 1-2" on the pan. Not that you really care about
handling when it is this slammed but this will help and also eliminate the chance of hitting
those tabs the hang really low. On my super I have bent/folded them over a little bit from
driving around slammed.

Slammed on those ATS wheels looks dope btw.

[Pineapplegti !]

Lookin good.. I have my german look hammered super all worked out in my head

[Superbeet]

This thread is a dream come true. I only thought air ride would get a super real low. So let me ramble a bit and tell me if I'm correct. You have the front struts on a 150# spring, with a coil over from where exactly? And you have a 4" drop plate, but a 3" would be more suitable. Minus the skid plates did I get that correct? Did you need a different stabilizer bar? and are the tie rods flipped or did you not do that?

Anyways major props on the super. This is an awesome thread.

cheers

[jkallhoff]

this is like a super builders dream thread. i too have 73 super and i was totally ready to find some old strut and start hacking away and mounting some air cylinders in them. this is so much easier. good thread keep us updated.

[71sbeetle]

We also picked up this nice little kit at BugJam this year that extends the pedal cluster. Gives you and extra inch between the brake and clutch pedal and make the assembly a lot smoother all around. I will get some pics up of that soon as we just got it put all together.

Like this one?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1220896

[71sbeetle]

Lowered my 71 Super another 1.5" yesterday :p ...... now I have to do some work in the trunk and well, it's harder to do :p

[tonytalksalot]

My favorite thread in the aircooled section. Let's keep it alive!

[gsusmaniac]

Lookin good.. I have my german look hammered super all worked out in my head

Get it started and lets see it....

This thread is a dream come true. I only thought air ride would get a super real low. So let me ramble a bit and tell me if I'm correct. You have the front struts on a 150# spring, with a coil over from where exactly? And you have a 4" drop plate, but a 3" would be more suitable. Minus the skid plates did I get that correct? Did you need a different stabilizer bar? and are the tie rods flipped or did you not do that?

Anyways major props on the super. This is an awesome thread.

cheers

Yes you have that about right... all the parts we bought were from a company called QA1, I thought I posted a DIY for the coils, but if not- here it is again We do have flipped tie-rods, and will be adding a lowered 7/8" front sway bar and a 3/4" rear.

This has part numbers and prices for what we used-
http://www.superbeetlesonly.com/foru...howtopic=12693

this is like a super builders dream thread. i too have 73 super and i was totally ready to find some old strut and start hacking away and mounting some air cylinders in them. this is so much easier. good thread keep us updated.

We have been working out engine issues, so it has been slow.

Like this one?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1220896

Looks like the exact one... and it is AWESOME!

Lowered my 71 Super another 1.5" yesterday :p ...... now I have to do some work in the trunk and well, it's harder to do :p

Pics Garey, you can't say that and not show us!

My favorite thread in the aircooled section. Let's keep it alive!

Sorry, I didn't think many people were checking this thread so I haven't updated it much. I will try and do more in the keeping it alive section

[71sbeetle]

Pics Garey, you can't say that and not show us!

Alright, but I promise they're boring!

[gsusmaniac]

Looking good... at least you drive yours!

[71sbeetle]

Looking good... at least you drive yours!

Hmm, let's see, from May 2011 to July 20th 2012, I drove it ..... a whopping 49 miles!!! I used to drive it 24,000 a year!!!

[Superbeet]

Alright, but I promise they're boring!

Do you rub fenders? Looks really good though

[71sbeetle]

Nope no rubbing. Now running 205/65/15 rears and 175/65/15 fronts.

[qletsinger]

Just lowered my 74 super beetle the other day with adjustable struts! Love the looks of it but it rubs on the fender too much because my rims are a bit wide... I have no idea what i could do to widen the fenders, i tried to bend them out but the fender didnt have enough support... Has anyone done anthing to theirs to make their stock fenders a little wider? I will post pictures of it soon.

[westypoo]

what wheels and tires you running? that will help a lot for getting extra clearance. but i flaired my front fenders. im gonna buy windend fenders tho in the future.

[VDUBONDUBS!]

heres my 71 super...not so much as slammed but it tucks 20s all the way around!

[gsusmaniac]

heres my 71 super...not so much as slammed but it tucks 20s all the way around!

Are you on air? If not, how's your turning radius?

I like it... a lot of work has gone into it!

[Superbeet]

I'd really like to know how you lowered the rear. i know you said 3'' spring plates but what're the specs on those. I took it down a click and it suffers ride quality, of course.

[71sbeetle]

Choupinette 001 by 71sbeetle, on Flickr

[gsusmaniac]

I'd really like to know how you lowered the rear. i know you said 3'' spring plates but what're the specs on those. I took it down a click and it suffers ride quality, of course.

If you are asking me, we have 4" drop plates. We cut and rewelded the rear trailing arms. I will draw up a diagram to explain it.

[VDUBONDUBS!]

Are you on air? If not, how's your turning radius?

I like it... a lot of work has gone into it!

thanx man yeah ive got heaps of work in it. and yeah it on air....wont even roll when its down! tires pinch the body when its down. id like to do a 18" an 20" combo so i cabn ride with it lower than what i do instead of almost lookin like those stupid donk cars! lol

[qletsinger]

Here is how low my rear end is, I lowered it by adjusting the spring plate 2 splines. I have about the width of a quarter between my tire and the fender and it has not been rubbing because it is sitting on the bump stop. I just thought i would share!



The clearance in the back at the exhaust is 2-3 inches...



The camber is looking nice!

[dunkelxson]

still dont understand how you got it so low i would love to have mine sitting that low

[wannabaja]

I have about the width of a quarter between my tire and the fender and it has not been rubbing because it is sitting on the bump stop.

[JDII]

x2

[wannabaja]

Rides GREAT!

[JDII]

Fork da ride man! Fat Chics are all bout the stance kid, and dat chit looks swagggg!!

[downy.]

Any issues on alignments with those trailing arms?
I'm down about 4 splines and have pretty bad toe, but if this corrects that and helps with clearance then I might be doing this next.

[gsusmaniac]

Any issues on alignments with those trailing arms?
I'm down about 4 splines and have pretty bad toe, but if this corrects that and helps with clearance then I might be doing this next.

Haven't had it on an alignment rack yet. But we made a jig that kept the stub axle in the same position as stock just 4 inches higher. So if you keep it straight, you have no change in toe, or camber!