Say Hello to the APR TT RS

[tdi-bart]

labor is probably more than rods as you have to tear down most of the motor, but some say stock motor is good for 700hp...

[Arin@APR]

That's not a TTRS engine. It's a 2.5L Golf engine. Look at the valve cover and PCV setup at 37 seconds into the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63k8H...eature=related

And here's a VW 2.5 naturally aspirated engine w/o the cover.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/r...e/DSC00433.jpg

[Issam Abed]

labor is probably more than rods as you have to tear down most of the motor, but some say stock motor is good for 700hp...

That is not a stock motor.
It has H-beam forged connecting rods and a whole heep of internal parts. Also that is a 2.5 Rabbit motor that has been turbo charged , not a true TTRS unit.

[neonova6]

Holy hell, that was painful to watch. Reminds me of my youth, when I used to connect duel 9v's to a standard 3v motor, and run the thing until the bearings ceased, the wiring started to melt and finally met it's inevitable demise. Leaving this world with puff of smoke; the tiny spirt of it's existence sacrificed to my unyielding curiosity of electronics. I digress.

I can't imagine they were actually anticipating putting that monstrously modified engine into a chassis without upgrading, basically everything else, and expect it preform

Edit: I was wrong, they put it into a dune buggy kit. They're madder than I though.

labor is probably more than rods as you have to tear down most of the motor, but some say stock motor is good for 700hp...

[tdi-bart]

well then if thats a rabbit motor then ttrs can do even better

[NoPasaran]

well then if thats a rabbit motor then ttrs can do even better

I thought the TTRS engine based on the engine block from American VW Rabbit.

[NoPasaran]

I've been thinking about Stage III.

Since it requires special APR downpipe, which is decat, the car will probably not pass emissions test.
Now, I do not know how it is in US, but where I am at (Switzerland) the car has to go through governmental check (MOT, I guess) when it is 5 years old and then every two years. If it does not pass the check then you cannot drive it. That means then that in order to pass the check with SIII kit one would need to remove the whole kit (turbo, downpipe) and install the OEM parts and after the test the vice versa. That will not be cheap.

[DrDomm]

There's some info on the new APR flashing stuff in the "TT-RS Order Guide" thread.

[Axel1]

There's some info on the new APR flashing stuff in the "TT-RS Order Guide" thread.

moved here...

per http://www.rpiequipped.com/ site February 29, 2012

"We just got back from our trip to Opelika, Alabama for the 2012 APR Distributor Conference. To start things off, APR announced the Stage 3 kit for Audi TTRS. Power numbers were at a modest 517whp when it was shown to us. However, that was only with a day of tuning on factory fueling. APR Expects this kit to come to market at the 600WHP mark."



Another big thing to be announced was the release of the highly anticipated UPD flashing station. Now, APR dealers will be able to flash ALL Siemens and Bosch ECU’s in house. Happy now, B8 S4 and TTRS Owners?

[Axel1]

[Axel1]

[tdi-bart]

so do dealers already have the new hardware?? and if thats the case where are the stage 1 graphs

[Poverty]

Ive dynoed my car.

Results are good, the car has never had this much power before

Id better update my signature!

[AppleChilli]

Ive dynoed my car.

Results are good, the car has never had this much power before

Id better update my signature!

What a tease...Spit it out already!?

[Poverty]

haha,

Last time I was on this same dyno I made 400hp and 380lbft on revo stage 2

Big improvement now

[Arin@APR]

I've been thinking about Stage III.

Since it requires special APR downpipe, which is decat, the car will probably not pass emissions test.

There's physically no room for a catalytic converter in the primary stock location.

There IS room for dual catalytic converter in the same location as the secondary cats. We will be exploring options to make emissions friendly solutions, especially for countries like Switzerland where our importer will seek DTC.

[mik34]

haha,

Last time I was on this same dyno I made 400hp and 380lbft on revo stage 2

Big improvement now

Tease.

[Poverty]

Ok, you guys have suffered enough.

On the development file its made......

430hp 450lbft!

[jmh2002]

430hp 450lbft!

What type of Dyno is this on? All 4 wheels? Crank or Wheel HP? Street Fuel, etc?

[Poverty]

What type of Dyno is this on? All 4 wheels? Crank or Wheel HP? Street Fuel, etc?

All 4 wheels, crank HP, street fuel.

APR stage 2
Forge intercooler
Scorpion/forge Titanium turbo back exhaust

[tdi-bart]

Ok, you guys have suffered enough.

On the development file its made......

430hp 450lbft!

ok 93/98 fuel? mr arin how about some graphs finally

[Arin@APR]

Ok, you guys have suffered enough.

On the development file its made......

430hp 450lbft!

Must be nice! : )

[NoPasaran]

There's physically no room for a catalytic converter in the primary stock location.

There IS room for dual catalytic converter in the same location as the secondary cats. We will be exploring options to make emissions friendly solutions, especially for countries like Switzerland where our importer will seek DTC.

Thanks, Arin!
That is good news, not only for Switzerland, but for UK, Germany, and US as well, as I believe the emissions limits in US are just as hard as in Europe (maybe I am wrong).

[R5T]

A TT RS on my side of the pont and then Stage 3 with all the other necessary adjustment's means i would spend Nissan GT-R money.

[jamiekip]

Ok, you guys have suffered enough.

On the development file its made......

430hp 450lbft!

Can you share WHP mate?

[JohnLZ7W]

A TT RS on my side of the pont and then Stage 3 with all the other necessary adjustment's means i would spend Nissan GT-R money.

Looks like you bought the wrong car then.

[Poverty]

Must be nice! : )

Its very nice

[Poverty]

Can you share WHP mate?

I dont think I have those figures, I;ll have to check the graph!

[tdi-bart]

how about you just post the graph

[Arin@APR]

Its very nice

Oem air box too? Nice!

[NoPasaran]

Looks like you bought the wrong car then.

It is not the wrong car, John, it is just that SIII is street illegal in most of Europe, I can't see how it can be street legal in US as the car will most likely not pass emissions with decat DP and original 400 CPI cats. Unfortunately.

I do not know how they do it in US, but I've heard in UK they will also do visual inspection of underneath at MOT, so if it does not look stock (which means that it will not pass emissions with that decat APR downpipe) then the car is illegal to drive.

The GTI I had before was bought by a guy here in Switzerland and now he did not pass MFK (Swiss MOT) because I had aftermarket exhaust with decat DP, motorsport cat and small silencer replacement pipes, and that car did pass emissions when I had it. I assume therefore visual inspection is done here as well.

[NoPasaran]

how about you just post the graph

Ahahaha, British guys NEVER post graphs, trust me on this! They only talk about how incredibly fast everything is.

I have Sportec tune Stage 2, 419PS (=413bhp) and 607Nm (=447lbft) on 9402km old engine at ambient temperature of 28C. This is on the crank.

[Poverty]

Ahahaha, British guys NEVER post graphs, trust me on this! They only talk about how incredibly fast everything is.

I have Sportec tune Stage 2, 419PS (=413bhp) and 607Nm (=447lbft) on 9402km old engine at ambient temperature of 28C. This is on the crank.

Have you seen the vbox times for the Sportec maps? Auto motor und sport tested it, I'd suggest a APR map if you want to unlock your cars true potential

[NoPasaran]

Have you seen the vbox times for the Sportec maps? Auto motor und sport tested it, I'd suggest a APR map if you want to unlock your cars true potential

I just want to see what the plots look like, where the peaks are, how the numbers tail off etc. I just want to compare how different companies achieve their numbers, but I want to see it on customer cars not the smoothed and styled plots on the webpages of the tuners.

Who tested, how, at which temperatures etc makes a lot of difference, and you know that and that was 2 years ago anyway and those cars have the cats on including preCAT, do you? And again here is interesting to compare the plots and how the curves develop, to understand why performance differs.

Why it is such a BIG SECRET to share the plot I do not understand.

[jmh2002]

Yep, post it up, area under the curve says a lot...