it is a brand new Routan!!!!!!!
It is less than 3 weeks and I drove only 200 miles on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
can't believe it
The Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) is part of an onboard diagnostic system called OBD that monitors engine and automatic transmission control systems. The light will illuminate when the key is in the ON position before engine start. If the bulb does not come on when turning the key from OFF to ON, have the condition checked promptly.
Certain conditions such as a loose or missing gas cap, poor fuel quality, etc., may illuminate the MIL after engine start. The vehicle should be serviced if the light stays on through several of your typical driving cycles. In most situations, the vehicle will drive normally and will not require towing.
That is good advice, you can also have the car scanned at an auto parts store for free most times. That should help you figure out if it is something major.
Current: Me: 2013 CC Sport 6spd Manual Wife: 2011 Routan SE w/RSE (Round 2)
Past VAG vehicles: 2010 CC Sport DSG 2001 Jetta GLX, 2003 Audi A4 1.8T, 2007 Jetta GLI, 2009 Jetta Sportwagen
Other past cars: 06 Nissan Pathfinder, 06 Corvette (Z51 package), 87 IROC-Z
thanks for your advice!
My wife parked the routan in the park and ride. She filled the gasoline last week. The check engine light came out this morning when she started the car.
I will take a look tonight. Is it ok to drive 30 miles away? Is it safe? My wife is pregnant btw.
We hope to change another Routan, this one has problems in the first day.
How many miles are on the vehicle, total miles? Did you buy it new or used? What year is it?
If you bought the vehicle new and you have only had the vehicle a few weeks or thereabouts, don't waste your time finding out what is wrong with it. You simply call VW. They will have it towed or will tell you to drive it to them to fix, if it is under warranty. You get road side assistance with your new car warranty. When it's there, you tell them to look at the rust and you ask them to contact VWOA. However, if you bought it used, that is a different story. It does look like something is wrong with that much rust, unless you bought it used. It looks like it took a bath in salt water. Not normal, if it is a 2011.
Honestly, something doesn't sound right about your situation. Are you sure it is a new vehicle? Have you talked with your dealer already?
check engine light code:
code : P054C AND P054A
CAMSHAFT POSITION TIMING OVER
CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR WIRE HARNESS
TONE WHEEL/PULSE RING
CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR
dealer reset the computer and said it is too complicated to diagnose now. If it happens again, you can stop by and they will do a detail check...........
what is this code? it looks serious........ I felt lost power when I am driving btw
I believe, once the check engine light is on, it will come back again sooner or later even though you reset it.
any idea? this terrible routan drives me crazy!
Rust in the first day, check engine light on in 2 weeks......... I want to change another one!
Last edited by 02golftdi; 09-14-2011 at 06:33 PM.
Remember, new cars are so heavily loaded with electronics, it could be something as stupid as a cold solder joint on one of the first three components or something else on one of them, that worked during testing but failed in the real world.
3.6 VVT DOHC
P054C Passenger side cam position sensor
P054A Driver side cam position sensor
With the 3.6 VVT(variable valve timing) there may be a glitch. I'd drive it and see how it goes, if it throws the same codes again the dealer will have to look into it. Every once in a while I'd get that on my Dodge ram (cam position sensor) and I'd even get a crank position sensor too. Cleared the codes and was a long while before I'd get it back again. Here's something I found on a Chrysler 200 forum, clearly states the 2 codes you got. Possibly there may be a reflash and TSB possibly, atleast for the 200's and avengers etc... I wouldn't sweat it too much, shouldn't leave you stranded, it may just de-tune the engine until the code is cleared. The dealer would bother me more than the MIL.
Look, I don't see a huge worry about this engine light. If it does it again, your under warranty, take it in and VW will fix it. I wouldn't spend any time trying to figure it out and waste energy worrying about it. There isn't a model line or make of vehicle that doesnt occassionally have a bug to work out. This isn't a huge concern. There was another guy on here that had some real big problems, major problems, and VW even took care of him. But you only have an engine light, so don't sweat it. If it does it again, VW will figure it out and fix it and you won't have to worry. That's why new cars come with warranties.
Forget about the rust, it sounds like you can't do anything about that and its not going to cause you any visual, mechanical or electrical problems, probably for as long as you own the vehicle. It's strange that it has that amount of rust and you can write a letter or call corporate and complain, but don't let it consume your life. If you can't make something happen, then forget about it. Most people out there never look under their vehicles and have no clue how much rust they have. It doesn't sound like you have any other problems on the vehicle. So try to enjoy it.
I am buying a brand new car, not a used car please..... I can stand for small problems if I can repair them by myself. I already did some, but I can't accelerate on the freeway ramp, is it a small problem? What is your feeling that the engine light may come out again anytime, and your engine will be tear apart for a brand new car?
how can I enjoy it that I need to take one day off every week to the dealer for checking, then no parts and schedule next time?
I owned both VW and Jeep new cars, both of them are problem free for years........
BTW, we bought 3 Routan at the same time with my friends. Only my Routan has problems and rust. It may have a history while sitting in the dealer. it already has 280miles on it when I got it.
Last edited by 02golftdi; 09-15-2011 at 05:20 PM.