ABA Fox build

[ChevyAndVW]

2011-10-18_09-40-31_826 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

^ "cutting corners" i had to remove the teeth and trim the end that bolts to the block down and flip around to work.

[ChevyAndVW]

2011-10-20_14-06-43_988 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr



drives perfect and ALOT of power. well worth the time and $ and fyi... dont get POR-15 on ur hands or it will stay for a week...

[ChevyAndVW]

well 1st "documemnted" FULL ABA fox swap??? runs good. ill post some videos and pics tomorrow. and ill be at BrokeDown..

[ziddey]

nice. that's so weird seeing the a3 intake manifold in a longitudinal setup.

[Banned wagon]

Good job way to make quick work on this swap. I think you can still buy the dual outlet manifold (Bfi) you just need to make a dp

[Edcon91 II]

for getting it running. I am impressed. It looks very clean. Looking forward to seeing how you get a hood to close.

[themagellan]

for getting it running. I am impressed. It looks very clean. Looking forward to seeing how you get a hood to close.

can't wait to check this thing out, You "could" cut the piping so it has a straight air inlet, the filter would be in the front passenger side.

[90quattrocoupe]

you could vent the hood in the rear, where the battery was, and put an airbox there, ala Sport Q. Higher pressure at the bottom of the windshield than the front of the car. For the hood, you could get the bubble from Mitsu Eclipse. Would look clean. Not like the pictures posted earlier.

Greg W.

[ChevyAndVW]

so... NEVER use SeaFoam..... i ran the ABA for the whole day with no issues at all. since reading all the good things about this bullshyt in a can i decided to use it on the new-used aba. well i read all about how to properaly use it in the vaccum line and only used a 1/3 of a can VERY slowly and blew somthing. motor smoked like it sould with the seafoam and after it was ticking and making a bunch of different random noise. after all the seafoam was out all it did is smoke oil.. like a quart an hour.

located a aba 2 hours away with a low 94k miles for less $ and a warenty. after getting off the phone we left to go grab the engine in the broken aba fox. since i have no back seat we got there and motor fit right in the back. what a smokey ride! and didnt get pulled over with no hood and all the smoke.

got engine back. stripped it down. next day (yesterday) pulled the broken aba in like 45 mins. took off the intake and other good parts off the old engine put them on the good engine and installed the engine. took the car for a ride and seemed so slow! and the clutch was slipping a little.

after figuring out and a bunch of tests. it was only the distributer. we retimed the new engine but the distributer was F-ed up. so the engine was like 20 degrees off. took the old 1 off and replaced. at 1am it was done. just in time for Broke.Down vw show. just came back from the show and car ran great. just will need a clutch soon. which i figured.. and TheMagellan it was very nice meeting you and talking. thank you for all the support and i gotta check out the car meets in Salem sometime.


so basicaly my friend and I did put 2 ABAs in a Fox in 7-8 days. 1st and 2nd ABA into Fox swap?? heh. the hp increase is well worth the time.

[ChevyAndVW]

also. ill be cutting the hood to fit the aba and doing a hood like the mustang in the in movie Gone In Sixty Seconds. should look good. ill post more pics.


and in the near future ill start an other thread on turboing my aba. any questions please feel free to ask. i didnt get into too much detail.

[ziddey]

that's weird and unfortunate. i swear by seafoam, but it's too expensive nowadays. recently, i've just been using water.

[ChevyAndVW]

2011-10-21_17-24-48_564 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr


^ new engine delivery via Fox with the old messed up engine

[ChevyAndVW]

2011-10-21_16-55-17_993 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

[Banned wagon]

I still question the hp gains of the crossflow stock (for now) aba compared to a aba with big valve head. But I am enjoying your build

[ChevyAndVW]

i was saying huge hp increase going from a stock engine vs the aba in the fox. i had a mk3 2.0 and the fox with the aba is wayyyy faster. no lie it felt same or faster than a couple of stock vr6s ive drivin.

[ziddey]

nice. the fox should be around 600 pounds lighter i'd imagine. even if you're losing your top end power with the single outlet manifold, it's still slightly more power than a stock low comp 1.8.

can't wait to see your turbo build.

[ChevyAndVW]

thank you. the aba isnt staying this way for long. cam and turbo very soon. looking for the parts now. i need a quantum turbo diesel manifold. cant seem to find 1. this will be another budget build. sooo i gotta find the parts for cheap. even tho it wont be very cheap. but im working on it...





308937_10150876253330316_869450315_20837864_126544 900_n by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr



this hood?? ^ i gotta make somthing soon...

[ChevyAndVW]

i need a clutch soon. any suggestions? or turbo suggestions or parts finds for older vws

[ziddey]

dang. I never even thought about that when I was planning my original turbo build. I had the turbo and manifold (with the 5th runner cut and welded) from an audi 5000, but it got stolen.

Would have been smart to grab that when I got a 9q.

I'm imagining the whole manifold/turbo/downpipe is a direct bolton for the fox? Wonder what that small turbo would do. I'm planning on keeping cis-e, so 160whp is all I'd be after anyway. Sounds like a real elegant solution!

were there turbo diesels for all years of quantums?

[themagellan]

car was awesome! You guys were definitely cool people, I'm sure we will be in contact soon- i'll look around for that chip!




One my friend with the 4k snapped

[sippin.fnordies]

thank you. the aba isnt staying this way for long. cam and turbo very soon. looking for the parts now. i need a quantum turbo diesel manifold. cant seem to find 1. this will be another budget build. sooo i gotta find the parts for cheap. even tho it wont be very cheap. but im working on it...





308937_10150876253330316_869450315_20837864_126544 900_n by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr



this hood?? ^ i gotta make somthing soon...

Congratulations! You've succeeded in somehow making the nose of a Fox EVEN MORE BOXY! j/k Seriously though, nice fix. Also nice write-up and awesome swap. It kind of reminds me of a fox body mustang a bit.

[ChevyAndVW]

very nice pic of my car at brokedown btw! it was nice seeing you

the quantum turbo parts i need are bolt on.

the pic of the black "elenor" hood is photoshoped but it looks good and more boxy lol so i guess ill be trying to find that piece. today i cut the hood. also my intake pipe finaly came in. so thats hooked up now. and tossed that dumb oil beather and ran a catch can. "rock star" can right now. but i will be putting a "busch" beer can cuz its what i drink and its blue lol

[ChevyAndVW]

2011-10-24_19-50-14_578 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr


^ the engine barely sticks out!! alot less than i thought it would

[ChevyAndVW]

2011-10-24_16-26-32_179 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr


2011-10-24_16-26-21_433 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

[ChevyAndVW]

2011-10-24_19-21-09_978 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr


2011-10-24_19-21-22_399 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

[ChevyAndVW]

still got some more to do. since the idle stablizer has a new location it idles real low and stalls out somtimes. so gotta fix that and make an exhaust shield or intake box things around my air filter.

[ChevyAndVW]

and hood scoop...

[Banned wagon]

That's not too bad. Is that with stock motor mounts and unmodded subframe?

[ChevyAndVW]

stock motor mounts and subframe. i used windweld in the side mounts and a 80 stiffness front mount from TT. but thats irelevent. same motor mount height. i guess you could relocate and fab up different mounts and use hokey pucks on the sub frame and it should fit. i might try this in the future.

[Banned wagon]

Use e30 mounts and shim the sub frame & trans mount down the rest of the way with large washers. drill new holes for the front mount. with the understructure cut out on the hood. you might not even need to lift the rear of the hood or cut at all.

[ChevyAndVW]

thats probaly what ill do. e30 mounts are stiffer and lower. just a little moding and it will work. i have a brand new hood from vw so i didnt feel too bad cutting this hood for now. when i do the turbo i might do this.

[doppelfaust]

I have to admit, I am quite impressed. I can honestly say you are the first person in several years to discuss a motor swap and actually complete it, kudos!

Looks like the hood clearance shouldn't be too difficult to overcome.

[ChevyAndVW]

thank you. i have big plans for this car. already with the aba. its faster than the g60 Corrado i used to have. just doesnt handle as good. but that will come in time. when i do decide to lower the engine i think it might help a very little with the handling. im not changing the appearance too much. want it to perform and look clean and simple. also i want the most power and perforamce for short $.

[bigdaddykool99]

now i want to pull my motor

[QuantumSyncro]

dang. I never even thought about that when I was planning my original turbo build. I had the turbo and manifold (with the 5th runner cut and welded) from an audi 5000, but it got stolen.

Would have been smart to grab that when I got a 9q.

I'm imagining the whole manifold/turbo/downpipe is a direct bolton for the fox? Wonder what that small turbo would do. I'm planning on keeping cis-e, so 160whp is all I'd be after anyway. Sounds like a real elegant solution!

were there turbo diesels for all years of quantums?

Yes, the Audi 5 cyl exh mani is same pattern as 4 cyl with the 5th runner cut off and welded closed, same for the intake too on engines with same side int / exh ports. The audi exh mani puts the turbo near the front of the engine rather than back and down low like MF longitudinal exh mani ala quantum / 4000 TD, but that also means there's less fussing with the frame rail too if there's a conflict.

82-85 Quantum had turbo D engine, Audi 4k from 82-83.