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    Thread: ABA Fox build

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      10-13-2011 11:24 PM #37

      2011-10-13_09-39-53_338 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr


      at only 107k on the motor, it looked pretty nasty

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      10-13-2011 11:26 PM #38

      2011-10-13_12-10-02_165 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      crank shaft pulley was a bytch to get off... some straps and wood and a breaker bar did the trick

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      10-13-2011 11:27 PM #39

      2011-10-13_09-47-43_432 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      harness was laid out and reduced for the non a/c prehistoric fox

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      10-13-2011 11:29 PM #40

      2011-10-13_17-39-13_635 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr


      started to paint the engine and my phone broke... so ill have to take more pics tomorrow with my camera

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      10-14-2011 07:38 AM #41
      You know you can put more than one picture in a post.

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      10-14-2011 10:06 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by Edcon91 II View Post
      You know you can put more than one picture in a post.
      shh


      Keep the progress and pictures coming- Looking good! Love your taste of cars btw.

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      10-14-2011 11:32 AM #43
      Hurrah for progress
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      10-14-2011 11:07 PM #44
      thank you. and i know i can put more than 1 pic but its (i guess) easier spaced out and try to get step by step. wiring harness was slimmed down today and recieved the wrong gaskets and etc. had to do alot of running around chasing parts and had to drive an hour away to get the plug wires i wanted (plugs i got got ordered wrong) with an hour till they closed. got there with the doors locked and the lights off. knocked on the door and bought the ngk wires i wanted.

      with all the running around i managed to machine a egr block off plate/ finish the wiring and put the motor together. (except the fox parts that need to go on) now i need to see what kind of accessory setup i need to use.. fox..or somthing else... and (not a big deal) but where the air intake will run with the motor longatudal...

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      10-14-2011 11:20 PM #45
      half the pics are on another camera. more progress and pics tomorrow.. and will be finaly carless tomorrow when the motor comes out tomorrow. tomorrow the motor will be pulled and hopfuly the sub frame and what not will be cleaned, covered in POR-15 and what i need off the fox motor will be on the ABA.


      2011-10-14_21-32-53_269 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr


      2011-10-14_21-32-35_568 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      had to drill and tap to use this nifty chrome skull thing as a plug heh heh


      2011-10-14_21-32-35_568 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

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      10-14-2011 11:22 PM #46
      CHROME SKULL block of heh heh


      2011-10-14_21-02-55_911 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

    12. 10-14-2011 11:59 PM #47
      I see you building a beautiful VW crossflow engine...but...this have the correct size to you install in your Fox?
      These engines from Golf have 159mm rod lenght? Here in Brazil we have some problems with this engine swaps.

    13. 10-15-2011 12:03 AM #48
      You know the newest versions of Fox in Brasil? The newest fronts, grilles, headlights, bumpers...?
      http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gsatB-zoA8.../voyage_96.jpg
      Know this version?

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      10-15-2011 12:12 AM #49
      the aba or crossflow will fit. some things need to be changed and used of the fox or voyage (exhaust manifold, fuse box(and aba), etc) what problems to do have in brazil? the pic is a (correct me if im wrong 91-93 fox in the states.) the wire harness of the aba has been slimmed down by deleted things the fox wont use like a/c, lights, etc. also some connectors will have to be swaped. you can use 1 fuse box by merging things u need and dont need but im just going to run 2 for now just to get this done faster and easy of trouble shooting. this car is my EVERYDAY driver (only my fox is on the road). so im taking my time and doing everything correct, clean, and paying attension to detail but working on it everyday long hours till its complete.
      Last edited by ChevyAndVW; 10-15-2011 at 12:19 AM.

    15. 10-15-2011 04:37 PM #50
      These are the newest version here in Brazil too(We have the atual generation based in Gol "G5").
      Here we have problems to close the hood. These engines from Golfs Mk3/mk4 have 159mm rods and a block more long(to top). The parts fits without problems, the holes is indentics...but the hood don't close!! Atention for this. Verify today, no spent your time before this verification!

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      10-15-2011 11:06 PM #51
      thank you for the info. do you know how much the hoods dont close by? i had that in mind. but im not too worried i bought an extra hood straight from vw for $29!! so i might try to raise the hood in the back slightly, cut a hole(but do it right so it looks good) or cut out the hood skeleton. depends or how much it is off by. and GOLS are sick btw. i wish i could get one sent here.

    17. 10-15-2011 11:14 PM #52
      i don't see how that intake mani is going to work in your fox?

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      10-15-2011 11:28 PM #53
      so today. i got quite alot done. early am went to the junkyard and scored a rain tray, fox GL gauge cluster, and a speaker cover all for $15!!! then hardware store for some studs and block off stuff. that was the 1.8 fox motor's last ride... pulled the motor bolted on the accessories. por-15 some things. cleaned up the ports. more paint. removed the fox 1,8 oil pick up to use on the 2.0, filled the motor mounts with window weld for stiffer motor mounts. and a couple of other things.

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      10-15-2011 11:30 PM #54

      PA150236 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      last pic of old 1.8 in car

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      10-15-2011 11:31 PM #55

      PA140227 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ NEW wire harness SLIMMED down





      PA140228 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ cut out of the aba wiring harness

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      10-15-2011 11:33 PM #56

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      ^ emptyyyyyyy





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      ^ olddddd

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      10-15-2011 11:43 PM #57

      2011-10-15_11-02-37_739 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ the one and only fox ive ever seen in a junkyard... now i have its gauge cluster

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      10-15-2011 11:44 PM #59

      2011-10-15_21-31-41_183 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ Fox manifold on the ABA

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      10-15-2011 11:46 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Banned wagon View Post
      i don't see how that intake mani is going to work in your fox?
      how so? hood clearance? intake tubing? ugly? heh idk

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      10-15-2011 11:51 PM #62
      tomorrow pumpkin picking with my daughter. so will get more done monday am. i gotta also find a Quantum Turbo Diesel alternator bracket to work on ABA motor. so if anyone has a QTD bracket/alternator please lemme know

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      10-16-2011 08:04 AM #63
      The little filter you put in place of the oil breather is going to spew oil all over the place. Also, the hose that is supposed to connect to the missing breather is going to create a massive vacuum leak.
      Also, I see that you put a Fox single outlet exhaust manifold on the ABA. That is going to restrict the exhaust flow quite a bit. I believe all ABA's have dual outlet manifolds.
      Last edited by Edcon91 II; 10-16-2011 at 08:11 AM.

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      10-16-2011 03:09 PM #64
      Neat!

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      10-16-2011 07:13 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Edcon91 II View Post
      The little filter you put in place of the oil breather is going to spew oil all over the place. Also, the hose that is supposed to connect to the missing breather is going to create a massive vacuum leak.
      Also, I see that you put a Fox single outlet exhaust manifold on the ABA. That is going to restrict the exhaust flow quite a bit. I believe all ABA's have dual outlet manifolds.
      This is all true.


      I commend you on the work your doing, but I am pretty sure you are in for a big surprise. Your either going to be hoodless or cutting a hole in it. Its not like your the first person to think of swapping an aba engine in a fox, its been tried before by a few people and IIRC they all ended up using a counterflow head besides for one person who made a custom intake manifold. The stock engine pratically sits on the subframe so you cant lower it anymore than it is really. I have never personally done an aba head/intake on a fox so I cant verify...but if you ever closed your hood and got underneath your car and reached up you would find the timing belt cover/intake manifold to pratically hit the hood as it is. I built an aba/digi headed fox years ago and with the hood closed on bmw engine mounts i couldent get even my pinky between the intake manifold and hood.

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      10-16-2011 09:29 PM #66
      the oil beather should work. isnt that what its ment for... the piece that is suposed to go there has been blocked off so no vacuum leaks. i HAD to use the Fox exhaust manifold because the ABA wouldnt be a direct bolt up to the down pipe. and the exhaust system and manifold will stay the same for now (except removing the restricter "donut" be 4 the cat) because i plan to turbo the aba in the very near future...

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      10-16-2011 09:31 PM #67
      ive also stated my plans or ideas about the hood. i dont care to much if i have to cut the hood. im going to cut it just so what needs to stick out sticks out and use a rubber seal around the hole. and i have a brand new hood just incase.

    33. 10-16-2011 10:16 PM #68
      right, the alternator , radiator and hood are just a few of the big issues you are going to have to deal with. good luck

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      10-17-2011 10:15 AM #69
      What do u mean? What issues am I going to have with my alternator and radiator?

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      10-17-2011 11:28 AM #70
      I think banned is noting that if you keep the alternator on the driver's side, it will conflict with the stock location of the radiator. But as you have noted in an earlier post, you are looking for the diesel mounts, so you can move the alternator to the passenger's side of the motor. Correct?

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