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    Thread: ABA Fox build

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      10-15-2011 11:06 PM #51
      thank you for the info. do you know how much the hoods dont close by? i had that in mind. but im not too worried i bought an extra hood straight from vw for $29!! so i might try to raise the hood in the back slightly, cut a hole(but do it right so it looks good) or cut out the hood skeleton. depends or how much it is off by. and GOLS are sick btw. i wish i could get one sent here.

    2. 10-15-2011 11:14 PM #52
      i don't see how that intake mani is going to work in your fox?

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      10-15-2011 11:28 PM #53
      so today. i got quite alot done. early am went to the junkyard and scored a rain tray, fox GL gauge cluster, and a speaker cover all for $15!!! then hardware store for some studs and block off stuff. that was the 1.8 fox motor's last ride... pulled the motor bolted on the accessories. por-15 some things. cleaned up the ports. more paint. removed the fox 1,8 oil pick up to use on the 2.0, filled the motor mounts with window weld for stiffer motor mounts. and a couple of other things.

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      10-15-2011 11:30 PM #54

      PA150236 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      last pic of old 1.8 in car

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      10-15-2011 11:31 PM #55

      PA140227 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ NEW wire harness SLIMMED down





      PA140228 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ cut out of the aba wiring harness

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      10-15-2011 11:33 PM #56

      PA150244 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ emptyyyyyyy





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      ^ olddddd

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      10-15-2011 11:43 PM #57

      2011-10-15_11-02-37_739 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ the one and only fox ive ever seen in a junkyard... now i have its gauge cluster

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      10-15-2011 11:44 PM #59

      2011-10-15_21-31-41_183 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      ^ Fox manifold on the ABA

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      10-15-2011 11:46 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Banned wagon View Post
      i don't see how that intake mani is going to work in your fox?
      how so? hood clearance? intake tubing? ugly? heh idk

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      10-15-2011 11:51 PM #62
      tomorrow pumpkin picking with my daughter. so will get more done monday am. i gotta also find a Quantum Turbo Diesel alternator bracket to work on ABA motor. so if anyone has a QTD bracket/alternator please lemme know

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      10-16-2011 08:04 AM #63
      The little filter you put in place of the oil breather is going to spew oil all over the place. Also, the hose that is supposed to connect to the missing breather is going to create a massive vacuum leak.
      Also, I see that you put a Fox single outlet exhaust manifold on the ABA. That is going to restrict the exhaust flow quite a bit. I believe all ABA's have dual outlet manifolds.
      Last edited by Edcon91 II; 10-16-2011 at 08:11 AM.

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      10-16-2011 03:09 PM #64
      Neat!

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      10-16-2011 07:13 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Edcon91 II View Post
      The little filter you put in place of the oil breather is going to spew oil all over the place. Also, the hose that is supposed to connect to the missing breather is going to create a massive vacuum leak.
      Also, I see that you put a Fox single outlet exhaust manifold on the ABA. That is going to restrict the exhaust flow quite a bit. I believe all ABA's have dual outlet manifolds.
      This is all true.


      I commend you on the work your doing, but I am pretty sure you are in for a big surprise. Your either going to be hoodless or cutting a hole in it. Its not like your the first person to think of swapping an aba engine in a fox, its been tried before by a few people and IIRC they all ended up using a counterflow head besides for one person who made a custom intake manifold. The stock engine pratically sits on the subframe so you cant lower it anymore than it is really. I have never personally done an aba head/intake on a fox so I cant verify...but if you ever closed your hood and got underneath your car and reached up you would find the timing belt cover/intake manifold to pratically hit the hood as it is. I built an aba/digi headed fox years ago and with the hood closed on bmw engine mounts i couldent get even my pinky between the intake manifold and hood.

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      10-16-2011 09:29 PM #66
      the oil beather should work. isnt that what its ment for... the piece that is suposed to go there has been blocked off so no vacuum leaks. i HAD to use the Fox exhaust manifold because the ABA wouldnt be a direct bolt up to the down pipe. and the exhaust system and manifold will stay the same for now (except removing the restricter "donut" be 4 the cat) because i plan to turbo the aba in the very near future...

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      10-16-2011 09:31 PM #67
      ive also stated my plans or ideas about the hood. i dont care to much if i have to cut the hood. im going to cut it just so what needs to stick out sticks out and use a rubber seal around the hole. and i have a brand new hood just incase.

    18. 10-16-2011 10:16 PM #68
      right, the alternator , radiator and hood are just a few of the big issues you are going to have to deal with. good luck

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      10-17-2011 10:15 AM #69
      What do u mean? What issues am I going to have with my alternator and radiator?

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      10-17-2011 11:28 AM #70
      I think banned is noting that if you keep the alternator on the driver's side, it will conflict with the stock location of the radiator. But as you have noted in an earlier post, you are looking for the diesel mounts, so you can move the alternator to the passenger's side of the motor. Correct?

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      10-17-2011 02:52 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by ChevyAndVW View Post
      the oil beather should work. isnt that what its ment for... the piece that is suposed to go there has been blocked off so no vacuum leaks. i HAD to use the Fox exhaust manifold because the ABA wouldnt be a direct bolt up to the down pipe. .
      I didn't mean you should use the ABA manifold. I was trying to explain that the single outlet mani is a downgrade from stock on the ABA. You should use a dual outlet manifold that is compatible with the longitudinal setup, such as a Dasher manifold. I am assuming your main reason for attempting this swap is to increase performance in your Fox? If you happen to get this thing working, you are going to be disappointed by the lack of increased power due to taking shortcuts, and trying to keep it a budget build. Some things you just can't cheap out on.

      As far as the breather... The black unit you removed from the valve cover is an actual breather designed to vent, while keeping oil from passing through it. The filter you put in its place is just that, a filter. It will act as a vent, but oil is going to come out of it and go all over your engine.

    22. 10-17-2011 09:07 PM #72
      In you mind you want to increase power and performance?
      You have in mind what the parts this need?
      Here we use(for starting) forged pistons and rods, and a "turbo kit". This mix make 300HP or more without heavy hork.
      Here we found the Ethanol easily, and the benefits to use ethanol in turbos are must atractive! Compression high, hi turbo press, more power, less heat...
      Realy...here in Brazil if you tell turbo...automaticaly you tell ethanol.
      You will go use carb(s) or injection?

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      10-17-2011 09:43 PM #73
      ok. i used the fox manifold for now. if i ever come across a dasher exhaust mani or some duel outlet for cheap b4 i go turbo i will get it but for now getting the engine in, running and etc is my main goal. this manifold "short cut" is only temporary and changing out an exhaust mani when i find 1 or go turbo is pretty easy. and what am i going to lose 5 hp? actualy my whole exhaust is staying the same (-for now-) but im taking out the restrictor donut and punching out the cat. and as far as the hood goes ( casue everyone is dying to know) i have 2 hoods...1 im cutting and the other ill be getting a "cowl induction" type hood made... and at some point i will run e30 motor mounts and lower the sub frame or find some way to lower the engine... and lastly the alternator and radiator.. well heres the pics...

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      10-17-2011 09:54 PM #74

      2011-10-17_16-32-22_503 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr



      had to cut some things to make it. battery tray just by a little. timing cover a little. installed my stiffer motor mounts. fox oil pick up and oil pan. blocked off and extra coolent port with a random sensor.

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      10-17-2011 09:54 PM #75

      2011-10-17_18-25-51_361 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr

      knotched out the battery tray

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