2011-10-17_20-47-51_647 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr
^ YUP radiator and apternator fit no problem... the adjuster has to be used on the opposite side of where it connects to the block and the teeth have to be ground off and rewelded to the other side to make use of the adjuster... or just use a bolt and do it by hand. but im rewelding it
2011-10-17_20-47-37_146 by ChevyAndVW, on Flickr
^ thats about how far the engine is sticking out... i knew this going into the build. 1. cut hood 2. make cowliduction hood. 3. try to lower the motor by lowering the sub frame and using or making shorter motor mounts.
tomorrow. 1. run hoses and etc 2. make alt adjuster 3. basicaly just get everything situated and maybe start installing the new wire harness
Now you need a solution!
Unfortunately...your hood will be horrible. Excuse-me....but is the truth.
Hehe we use this head(golf CrossFlow) in short block(original of your Fox) and other version of intake manifold(exaust is unnecessary). But...still no close without engine relocation AND hood back lift.
With this manifold you will go win less HP in turbo mod, but...is smaller and work with your block.
This power plant have 16,5mm more height as your old engine.
With the original "short block"+crossflow golf header+Golf MK4 manifold+sump "sitted" in sub-chassis = some milimeters to close the hood. Long block+your manifold+no engine relocation = don't close the hood.
Looks like it is coming along well, and you are hitting the typical hurdles. Keep at it...one thing to note you may want to read heavily through the mk2 forums (many people do these swaps in mk2 chassis cars as its bolt in and plug and play)....your tach will prob not work. I forgot the details but you have to do some extra wiring to get the tach to work right...and your missing a vss signal so that will change things for ecu input as well...I havent read up on one of these aba swaps into a mk2 but there is plenty of information out there regarding it.
i said be fore i knew the proplem with the hood clearence b4 i started the swap.
im currently not running a tach (stock base model fox gauges) but when i put the fox gl (with tach) in i will def have to read up on that.
today got alot done. hollowed out the cat (different exhaust when its time for turbo) started to mock up side exit exhaust. started undoning some of the fox wiring. got the whole coolent sytem lines ran. service plate bolted back on. had to modify the alternator adjustment bracket to work. had to modify the timing covers to fit. basicaly alot of little modifys things to work. should be finishing the wiring tomorrow and should be running if time allows. then tunning. making sure everything is working. cutting hood. etc.
omg yah your right i should have swaped a prius motor in my Fox. fyi Foxes in some other companys dont come with that shyt. race cars done have emissions. lawn mowers dont. and 4 cyl cars dont put out alot of emissions anyways! wtf you think no one else on vortex does this and i should just become a tree hugger ***? this is a build thread and this is how IM building my car. you and whoever can build your car the way you want to. but theres a difference.... #1 i wouldnt rag on how your building your car. #2 if you did a cross generation motor (or other upgrades or changes) swap id respect and like your efforts. soo ill be driving my NON-emission fox and my V8 elcamino with no cats/ r-12/ and getting 8 mpg and you can go talk shyt on someone elses page. this is how im building my car like it or not. and thank you everyone else for your encouragement, info and ideas.
Ok yea. Calm down your really defensive. We as a car community need to work together and be aware of our environmental impact. I am all for you building your car and more hourse power. But needlessly plouting then posting about it is samefull. I have done 2 ABA swaps in my foxs over the years. The still pass smog super clean. And yes my next fox swap will be a full electric. What you do with consenting trees behind closed doors is none of my bisness. We be helpful or not, it's up to you.
Long block swaps with big valve heads. I couldn't justify the HP gains vs the amount of work. Never swapped out the FI system (I like CIS). Also in CA you have to a lot of fees and inspections every year if you swap out the system.
Last edited by Banned wagon; 10-19-2011 at 11:45 AM.
Now the car is too old to get any emission test. Plus I know someone that wud give me a sticker anyways. A good new engine with no emissons can be more "eco friendly" than a old bad preforming engine with full emissions. And band. Do u replace ur charcole cannister after 80k miles? Cause that's when they go bad anyways.
Anyways bad to work. Wiring up the ignition right. Had the engine running in the fox already.
Last edited by ChevyAndVW; 10-19-2011 at 05:00 PM.
whoa everyone coming harsh all the time now.
Don't forget some 1987's came with no cat- his is an 87'
the freon thing sucks, but I can't count how many people refill their system up every month to keep it cold ie: leaking a full system every month. that is painful.
Also keep in mind the awesomeness of this recycling, he has just saved the earth a lot of emissions by reusing a car that has already existed (think about a container ship emissions) along with metal resources.
Away from that note, I love that you are going the whole way with the aba swap. It always makes me laugh when someone modifying a car gets ragged on for it "not being worth the time" when is it ever modifying one of the most shunned vw's of all time?
BTW here in mass 1995 or earlier there is no emissions, it is a "does it smoke" test hope to see her running around me I'm up in the north shore! Bring it to brokedown!!!
finaly some one understands me! lol thank you. and i never even thought about the emissions on the container ship. (or the tractor trailer trucks transporting, even tho i drive trucks for a living) heh the new engine has low miles and doesnt even smoke. and quite fankly i didnt go into this build with emissions in mind. to be honest idc bout them. and this car will still put out probaly same or less than a street bike. the ABA Fox is now running. so tucking the wires. testing everything. seafoaming the engine. tidying up the engine and what not. maybe starting to cut the hood. im also waiting on a intake coupler i despertly need. i didnt know exactly what kind of intake i would need until the engine was in the car. but now its --throttly body-> 90 degree elbow-> MAF-> air filter.
and yes i will be going to brokedown. hope to see you there. i just hope my 90 degree elbow i ordered comes in and i can get the hood cut and maybe exhaust welded a little. (side pipe) or i will be driving it to brokedown with no hood and a stupid looking intake