Black Forest Industries 18 Hour Swap: MK1 VR6

[VIP VR6 Rabbit]

That was fast! Very cool

[vwmk1gti]

Well done

[bansheelos]

How much do you think you can lower it before pan clearance becomes an issue? B/c that ish gives a whole new meaning to poke!

[Vegeta Gti]

it's still a vr though...

[boxylooks27]

I will be getting a mk1 now lol

no u dont

[bansheelos]

no u dont

You know my attachments to VR's. I cant weld for ish!!! Its a simple bolt in... Sheet I def want to do this swap!!

[dubBMing]

You know my attachments to VR's. I cant weld for ish!!! Its a simple bolt in... Sheet I def want to do this swap!!

WHao i got a little wet

[adam@blackforest]

OK, so with a stripped interior and VR6 in the nose and an empty gas tank it might be a little nose heavy...........

[silvermannn]

...seriously, that's it for updates?

[pete@blackforest]

...seriously, that's it for updates?

For now, yeah.
We put everything together less then two weeks ago, attended H20 last weekend and have a business to run at the same time.
But no worries, more modifications and updates are in the process.
Gutted, cage, different wheels, etc..
Stay tuned.

[sk8ordie]

...seriously, that's it for updates?

youre complaining? that was awesome.

[greenraVR6]

excellent I'm gonna have to start looking around for another rabbit...

[bansheelos]

WHao i got a little wet

Lmao want me to remove the 2.0 and slap in a vr?

[adam@blackforest]

Cage is almost done, as well as its new shoes 14x7 TD's with Hankook RS3's. Some of the other details should get knocked out and addressed by next weekend and I should have some new pics next week as well

[VWM4YH3M]

Where do you get this kit?

[JCdubber]

im curious about the oil pan clearance as well. also, i understand it comes with custom axles, but was there a reason that you couldnt have just made the kit to work with late cabriolet axles? that way when they break (which im sure someone is gonna do it) we could just get a new axle with out having to find a special one, or have one made, or have to go thru the one place that sells the kit.

[VWM4YH3M]

^^^^^^ I second that

[GTIDamien_407]

Wow so sick that thing haul's ass, new world record?

[deathhare.]

im curious about the oil pan clearance as well. also, i understand it comes with custom axles, but was there a reason that you couldnt have just made the kit to work with late cabriolet axles? that way when they break (which im sure someone is gonna do it) we could just get a new axle with out having to find a special one, or have one made, or have to go thru the one place that sells the kit.

Im sure Eurowise will sell you more custom axles if you need them.

[JCdubber]

Im sure Eurowise will sell you more custom axles if you need them.

i figured that much...

or have to go thru the one place that sells the kit.

though i understand eurowise is just making the kit, and BFI is distributing it. im imagining one or the other will offer replacements. i am curious as to the reasoning behind it though. i hear of people using them on their mkI vr swaps often enough, so why not keep with the trend of making it easy? and not only that, wouldnt that save on the cost of making the kit in the first place? less money to make it=less money to buy it=more people buy it=they make more money in the long run. maby im just over thinking it. but the axles, and the questionable pan clearance is really all thats stopping me from buying one of these setups for my swap.

[Biodome]

You have to run custom axles, or notch the passenger frame rail. One or the other. Stock 100mm driver's side axle puts the pulleys inside the frame rail. Short axle allows the whole shebang to be moved over so you don't need to notch.

I notched. I like stock axles.

[sk8ordie]

Folks employing mkIII/IV mounts are also making/ having custom axle/s made. Im still really curious to see what the required downpipe looks like.

[ArpyArpad]

the pans going to be low on any vr swap.

also, im pretty sure others have done it without modding axles. the only difference is that most people like to not have the motor that far over so itll be a little more balanced(hopefully). its literally a couple of inches.

[JCdubber]

You have to run custom axles, or notch the passenger frame rail. One or the other. Stock 100mm driver's side axle puts the pulleys inside the frame rail. Short axle allows the whole shebang to be moved over so you don't need to notch.

I notched. I like stock axles.

im with you on that. i have every intention of notching the frame rails for the axles, and welding the mkIII mounts so the oil pan sits level or a few mms higher than the control arms, i will figure out what i want to do with the hood from there. ive been seeing where people have to notch the passengers side frame rail for the pulleys too, and figured id have to do that. this is not supposed to be my daily or anything. its just intended to be mkI, low as crap, and have a vr6 in it... and be relatively nice to look at. but thank you for answering my question. makes perfect sense.

[ArpyArpad]

of all the swaps(even stock axles) on here ive never seen anyone have to notch anything for pulleys

[JCdubber]

of all the swaps(even stock axles) on here ive never seen anyone have to notch anything for pulleys

maby they angled the motor? im still playing with different ideas. hopefully someone who runs stock axles with out notching the frame can chime in and clear up the confusion.

[ArpyArpad]

i cant remember the guys name but he had a blue rabbit with a clipper kit and black steelies and im pretty sure he used stock 16v scirroco axles.

[VWM4YH3M]

Again, anyone know who makes it? Price?

[JCdubber]

The Eurowise kit sells for $899, which is for 3 mounts(brackets and mounts) and the two custom axles. Shoot them an email for more details/availablity

i think bfi is distributing them when they actually go on sale.

[vento86]

vr mk1s look dangerous

[Mathew...]

I was expecting a burnout as an update

[vento86]

I was expecting a burnout as an update

they did one... and the car flipped

[VWJETTY]

greetings from the mk3 forums!!!

poor mk3, but i'm glad its heart went to a good place and not the junkyard!

[deathhare.]

vr mk1s look dangerous

They are dangerous.
I brutalized a g35 the other night on the interstate with mine.

[TightDub]