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    Thread: Black Forest Industries 18 Hour Swap: MK1 VR6

    1. 10-11-2011 08:42 PM #76
      Quote Originally Posted by vento86 View Post
      i ca do that with my all motor aba
      You would have been left behind as well.

    2. 10-11-2011 08:53 PM #77
      Quote Originally Posted by deathhare. View Post
      You would have been left behind as well.

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      10-11-2011 09:18 PM #78
      Maybe I missed it but what would this swap cost if someone provided the donor car and A1?


      also, re-edit the vid.. I only saw one High Life in that vid.. What happened to the other 11?

    4. 10-11-2011 09:43 PM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by wut_cel View Post
      Maybe I missed it but what would this swap cost if someone provided the donor car and A1?


      also, re-edit the vid.. I only saw one High Life in that vid.. What happened to the other 11?
      Hard to give an exact number for cost for the swap, there are a lot of variable with finish details as well as other work that may or may not need to be done. Both were running cars and basically two of us did 90% of work in the 18hr period. At the end there were 2 others helping out. So you are looking at roughly 40 man hours.

      Actually the High Life makes two appearances in the video

    5. 10-11-2011 09:47 PM #80
      Quote Originally Posted by Mathew... View Post
      I was expecting a burnout as an update
      That was in the first video

      But we spent some time after work putting together the cage, got 80% of done...







      Still needs some finish welding here and there, as well as the door bars to be put in along with a rear cross bar and ties to the rear strut towers.

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      10-12-2011 04:35 AM #81
      Is there possibilty to see how the engine sits. Im thinking of axle alignment.

      As someone mentioned before will this make the r32 engine pass in mk1 to? Do they even have the same mounting point?

      Otherwise, awesome kit.

    7. 10-12-2011 10:08 AM #82
      Quote Originally Posted by Puderschmidt View Post
      Is there possibilty to see how the engine sits. Im thinking of axle alignment.

      As someone mentioned before will this make the r32 engine pass in mk1 to? Do they even have the same mounting point?

      Otherwise, awesome kit.












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      10-12-2011 11:00 AM #83
      do want... soooo bad. how low does the pan sit on that set up?

    9. 10-12-2011 12:25 PM #84
      Like all VR's, including stock, yes the oil pan is quite low. I have talked with Mike about coming up with a shorter pan and pick up combo to offer as an option for the kit

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      10-12-2011 04:56 PM #85
      Quote Originally Posted by adam@blackforest View Post


      Why are the rear bars inwards on the main hoop so far?

    11. 10-12-2011 05:22 PM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by d-bot View Post
      Why are the rear bars inwards on the main hoop so far?
      The are angled out to land on top of the boxed rear section of the body where the bumper bolts on as well as to triangulate the main hoop. And then they have to angle in to clear the the wheel wells. There will be a cross bar still to go in, which will also tie in with rear shock towers.

    12. 10-12-2011 05:44 PM #87
      nice job, very cool 18 hours its not enough to fix everything. very cool.

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      10-12-2011 07:26 PM #88
      all this vr6 rabbit stuff makes me happy inside.

    14. 10-12-2011 07:57 PM #89
      Well got the cage finished up:





      Also as some might have noticed did some work to the 'outside'. Removed the factory US bumpers and swapped on some 14x7 TeamDynamics wheels with Hankook RS3's in 205/60/14.

    15. 10-12-2011 08:04 PM #90
      lookin good!

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      12-03-2011 12:45 PM #91
      This was asked before, but it seems to have been missed. But will this kit work with a 24v vr from a mk4? or do the mounting spots for the brackets not exist on the newer blocks.

      Imagine a 3.6 VR6 from a Cayenne/Touareg/CC in a rabbit
      How does a rotary work? This one's easy: the magic triangle spins in the peanut and then apex seals come out.
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      12-03-2011 01:38 PM #92
      Quote Originally Posted by simon_C View Post
      This was asked before, but it seems to have been missed. But will this kit work with a 24v vr from a mk4? or do the mounting spots for the brackets not exist on the newer blocks.

      Imagine a 3.6 VR6 from a Cayenne/Touareg/CC in a rabbit
      i think it should if you use the mk3 vr6 trans. at least thats what i remember of the mk2 24v swaps. meaning the tans mount is different. im not %100 on that
      Last edited by ArpyArpad; 12-03-2011 at 01:41 PM.

    18. 12-04-2011 12:58 PM #93
      Dont know about a 3.6, but the rear bungs are there on the 3.2 24v VR6 for the pass side motor mount. I have one here at the shop I tried the mounts on. I would assume 2.8 24v is the same.

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      12-04-2011 01:19 PM #94
      Very impressive.

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      12-04-2011 07:29 PM #95
      Doesnt the weight of the VR6 block nullify the unique handling chracteristic of the chassis?

    21. 12-04-2011 08:34 PM #96
      Go back a page to see the nose heavy swine.


      The answer is yes

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      12-11-2011 10:43 PM #97
      can we see a low front shot? maby one that shows where the oil pan sits next to the control arm bolt for reference?

    23. 12-21-2011 11:53 AM #98
      This shot should show the oil pan pretty well.





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      12-21-2011 12:06 PM #99
      thanks good lookin product.

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      12-21-2011 01:11 PM #100
      Awesomeness, but is it possible to make up for the decreased handling characteristics? What are the suspension plans for this?

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