Installed BFI Stage 2 Chip, ran great for 4 days, now idle problems & rev hang

[cm123]

of course the code reader i ordered wont be coming in until tomorrow
hopefully no codes come up

[gtiswapped96]

X2 for no codes!!!!

[cm123]

ok so i just installed the ECU with the new C2 chip.
the idle is at a constant 900rpms
no check engine light as of now!!
letting it idle for a while to see if it will shut off or not.. will keep you posted

[911_fan]

Out of curiosity, what was changed with the chip programing?

[GloryFreak]

I have a weird theory. If people such as myself are getting system too rich codes and rev hangs with the bfi chip, but uninstall the chip/run for a week or so (100+ miles mixed between highway/city) without ANY codes found or any rev hang issues, wouldn't you think that there is something wrong with the tuning? ....Like I said this is just a theory and not a fact.

[cm123]

Out of curiosity, what was changed with the chip programing?

to be honest with you im not sure..
chris just swapped my chip which was about a year old with a brand new one

[911_fan]

Then, technically, there should be no difference. It's a cookie cutter program.

[Patrick007]

I'm still waiting for my new chip from BFI (it's in the mail I'm told), but BFI told me that Chris from C2 had their new programmer look at the code (the old programmer has left C2 since working on the code for these chips). This new programmer didn't find any "glaring errors" but did "identify a few lines of code that seemed to be the problem areas" on our 1998+ cars. The new programmer also cleaned up a number of other lines of inefficient code within the program, so these new chips really are different from those of the past.

-Patrick

[cm123]

I'm still waiting for my new chip from BFI (it's in the mail I'm told), but BFI told me that Chris from C2 had their new programmer look at the code (the old programmer has left C2 since working on the code for these chips). This new programmer didn't find any "glaring errors" but did "identify a few lines of code that seemed to be the problem areas" on our 1998+ cars. The new programmer also cleaned up a number of other lines of inefficient code within the program, so these new chips really are different from those of the past.

-Patrick

yea that's what Chris was telling me.
i was very surprised with the top end it has now..
once it hits 80 it just keeps going

[bluntman220]

Sweet! mines is in the mail..........................so did it also solve the rev hang issue?

[cm123]

Sweet! mines is in the mail..........................so did it also solve the rev hang issue?

Yea I'm having no problems with the rev hang issue

[Kiyokix]

Yea I'm having no problems with the rev hang issue

Happen to have a video (cell or anything) of how the car is running and idling? I must say even though I don't want it to be a chip problem...I WANT it to be a chip problem so we can stop chasing ghosts lol.

Kei

[GloryFreak]

I'm still waiting for my new chip from BFI (it's in the mail I'm told), but BFI told me that Chris from C2 had their new programmer look at the code (the old programmer has left C2 since working on the code for these chips). This new programmer didn't find any "glaring errors" but did "identify a few lines of code that seemed to be the problem areas" on our 1998+ cars. The new programmer also cleaned up a number of other lines of inefficient code within the program, so these new chips really are different from those of the past.

-Patrick

So does this mean all of the non 1998+ people are still screwed with the whole issue?

[cm123]

Happen to have a video (cell or anything) of how the car is running and idling? I must say even though I don't want it to be a chip problem...I WANT it to be a chip problem so we can stop chasing ghosts lol.

Kei

i will take one today

[Kiyokix]

i will take one today

[The Big V]

mine is in the mail....very very excited...anyone in nyc w/ vagcom? i'll do video etc after i get mine in...i think i can have my work's obd2 reader scan running data to maybe add to the tech info...

[cm123]

I just took a video of starting up the car. This video was taken 20-30min after i drove it so the car was still pretty hot.
i will be taking another one later today to show how it is on a cold start
its not letting me post up the the video straight onto the post so here is the link:
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5506/tcm.mp4

[GloryFreak]

So what do I need to do to get a hold of this "new" chip? Do I contact chris @ c2 or bfi directly and does it cost anything or could I just drive down there and ask for a swap?

[cm123]

So what do I need to do to get a hold of this "new" chip? Do I contact chris @ c2 or bfi directly and does it cost anything or could I just drive down there and ask for a swap?

to be honest with you i would call c2 since that's who i dealt with to get the problem fixed.
since my chip was a over year old, they charged $50 to get a brand new chip.
but i believe if your within the year purchased it should be a free upgrade?

[Kiyokix]

I just took a video of starting up the car. This video was taken 20-30min after i drove it so the car was still pretty hot.
i will be taking another one later today to show how it is on a cold start
its not letting me post up the the video straight onto the post so here is the link:
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5506/tcm.mp4

Thanks, any thoughts now that you've driven on it a bit...how does the car drive, are there any legit (aka non placebo lol) differences you've noticed in how your car behaves, etc.

Kei

[cm123]

Thanks, any thoughts now that you've driven on it a bit...how does the car drive, are there any legit (aka non placebo lol) differences you've noticed in how your car behaves, etc.

Kei

well the acceleration is a lot quicker from a stock chip.. and you feel the torque when your going through gears. You also notice the top end difference. c2 said you should get between 8-12hp from it over time after you drive the car for a while

[gtiswapped96]

Cool so now that there's a new chip available we all gotta get crackin if we wanna get ahold of this puppy...Yeaaaaah buddy!!!

[GloryFreak]

to be honest with you i would call c2 since that's who i dealt with to get the problem fixed.
since my chip was a over year old, they charged $50 to get a brand new chip.
but i believe if your within the year purchased it should be a free upgrade?

Well that's good since I ordered and installed mine in like april or may of this year.

[Kiyokix]

well the acceleration is a lot quicker from a stock chip.. and you feel the torque when your going through gears. You also notice the top end difference. c2 said you should get between 8-12hp from it over time after you drive the car for a while

I remember how the car feels from stock chip vs the pem chips...just wondering if your car felt any different from the first install vs this new install. I was thinking more along the driveability more than anything.

Still no issues for you yet?

Kei

[cm123]

I remember how the car feels from stock chip vs the pem chips...just wondering if your car felt any different from the first install vs this new install. I was thinking more along the driveability more than anything.

Still no issues for you yet?

Kei

so far so good.. and the difference between the first PEM install to this one? my first chip wasn't fully functioning so i didn't have the rev limiter changed to 7000 and the idles weren't steady it was constantly jumping around. I have driven it the past two days and no problems or CEL.
i drive it at least once a day so i will keep you all posted if anything happens

[Kiyokix]

I'm waiting to hear back from Jeff so I can get my mitts on one too, hopefully my success is as good as yours.

I don't remember...you have a vagcom to look at any data if anything comes up?

Kei

[GloryFreak]

Just sent a message to c2 and asked that the message go directly to Chris. If i can get my hands on one this week, I will post up results. I have my vaccom system always in my car.

[Kiyokix]

Sweet, I can't wait to hear back from Jeff, and of course I always have my vagcom in the car too.

Kei

[cm123]

I'm waiting to hear back from Jeff so I can get my mitts on one too, hopefully my success is as good as yours.

I don't remember...you have a vagcom to look at any data if anything comes up?

Kei

no i dont have vagcom, all i have is an obdII scanner if the CEL come up

[Kiyokix]

ok, at least you've got something to use

[The Big V]

i got my chip the other day but i won't have time to install it til midweek (i hope!!)....really anxious to get this in!

anyone know how i can get vagcom on a mac? or an iphone even?

[GloryFreak]

This is the reply from Chris @ C2:

BFI and I are discussing the options for PEM customers with issues, and how they can get the UPGRADE

We should have a plan in place today, look for an update posted to the Vortex or the C2 Facebook page.

Chris

C2


...So something is being done!

[cm123]

This is the reply from Chris @ C2:

BFI and I are discussing the options for PEM customers with issues, and how they can get the UPGRADE

We should have a plan in place today, look for an update posted to the Vortex or the C2 Facebook page.

Chris

C2


...So something is being done!

mine is still working fine

[GloryFreak]

How much was the chip for you cm123?

[cm123]

How much was the chip for you cm123?

since i was out of the year purchased it was $50