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    Thread: Installed BFI Stage 2 Chip, ran great for 4 days, now idle problems & rev hang

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      10-18-2011 06:01 PM #101
      Updates?
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      10-20-2011 09:07 AM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by GloryFreak View Post
      Updates?
      gonna be installing the ecu with the new c2 chip today, ill take a video to show how the car reacts..
      hope this one works!

    3. 10-20-2011 09:34 AM #103
      FYI....its probably going to idle weird when you put the new ECU in. That is completely normal. The throttle body needs to adapt. Give the motor few cold starts before posting your results.

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      10-20-2011 12:40 PM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by tdogg74 View Post
      FYI....its probably going to idle weird when you put the new ECU in. That is completely normal. The throttle body needs to adapt. Give the motor few cold starts before posting your results.
      thanks for the info tdogg..
      im honestly just looking to see if the car is going to shut off or not after the warm up cycle. I just drove it now so i am going to wait for it to cool down a little before installing it

    5. 10-20-2011 12:49 PM #105
      ^^so excited right now...can't wait eekkkkkk
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      10-20-2011 12:53 PM #106
      of course the code reader i ordered wont be coming in until tomorrow
      hopefully no codes come up

    7. 10-20-2011 02:12 PM #107
      X2 for no codes!!!!
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      10-20-2011 03:08 PM #108
      ok so i just installed the ECU with the new C2 chip.
      the idle is at a constant 900rpms
      no check engine light as of now!!
      letting it idle for a while to see if it will shut off or not.. will keep you posted

    9. 10-20-2011 03:15 PM #109
      Out of curiosity, what was changed with the chip programing?

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      10-20-2011 03:57 PM #110
      I have a weird theory. If people such as myself are getting system too rich codes and rev hangs with the bfi chip, but uninstall the chip/run for a week or so (100+ miles mixed between highway/city) without ANY codes found or any rev hang issues, wouldn't you think that there is something wrong with the tuning? ....Like I said this is just a theory and not a fact.
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      10-20-2011 04:29 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by tdogg74 View Post
      Out of curiosity, what was changed with the chip programing?
      to be honest with you im not sure..
      chris just swapped my chip which was about a year old with a brand new one

    12. 10-20-2011 05:04 PM #112
      Then, technically, there should be no difference. It's a cookie cutter program.

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      10-20-2011 07:13 PM #113
      I'm still waiting for my new chip from BFI (it's in the mail I'm told), but BFI told me that Chris from C2 had their new programmer look at the code (the old programmer has left C2 since working on the code for these chips). This new programmer didn't find any "glaring errors" but did "identify a few lines of code that seemed to be the problem areas" on our 1998+ cars. The new programmer also cleaned up a number of other lines of inefficient code within the program, so these new chips really are different from those of the past.

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      10-20-2011 08:43 PM #114
      Quote Originally Posted by Patrick007 View Post
      I'm still waiting for my new chip from BFI (it's in the mail I'm told), but BFI told me that Chris from C2 had their new programmer look at the code (the old programmer has left C2 since working on the code for these chips). This new programmer didn't find any "glaring errors" but did "identify a few lines of code that seemed to be the problem areas" on our 1998+ cars. The new programmer also cleaned up a number of other lines of inefficient code within the program, so these new chips really are different from those of the past.

      -Patrick
      yea that's what Chris was telling me.
      i was very surprised with the top end it has now..
      once it hits 80 it just keeps going

    15. 10-20-2011 11:29 PM #115
      Sweet! mines is in the mail..........................so did it also solve the rev hang issue?

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      10-21-2011 12:11 AM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by bluntman220 View Post
      Sweet! mines is in the mail..........................so did it also solve the rev hang issue?
      Yea I'm having no problems with the rev hang issue

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      10-21-2011 07:28 AM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by cm123 View Post
      Yea I'm having no problems with the rev hang issue
      Happen to have a video (cell or anything) of how the car is running and idling? I must say even though I don't want it to be a chip problem...I WANT it to be a chip problem so we can stop chasing ghosts lol.

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      Quote Originally Posted by VWestlife View Post
      If you pace the cars around you, I bet you'll find that people rarely accelerate to 60 MPH in any quicker than 20 seconds.

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      10-21-2011 08:28 AM #118
      Quote Originally Posted by Patrick007 View Post
      I'm still waiting for my new chip from BFI (it's in the mail I'm told), but BFI told me that Chris from C2 had their new programmer look at the code (the old programmer has left C2 since working on the code for these chips). This new programmer didn't find any "glaring errors" but did "identify a few lines of code that seemed to be the problem areas" on our 1998+ cars. The new programmer also cleaned up a number of other lines of inefficient code within the program, so these new chips really are different from those of the past.

      -Patrick
      So does this mean all of the non 1998+ people are still screwed with the whole issue?
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      10-21-2011 10:21 AM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by Kiyokix View Post
      Happen to have a video (cell or anything) of how the car is running and idling? I must say even though I don't want it to be a chip problem...I WANT it to be a chip problem so we can stop chasing ghosts lol.

      Kei
      i will take one today

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      10-21-2011 12:28 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by cm123 View Post
      i will take one today
      Quote Originally Posted by VWestlife View Post
      If you pace the cars around you, I bet you'll find that people rarely accelerate to 60 MPH in any quicker than 20 seconds.

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      10-21-2011 01:31 PM #121
      mine is in the mail....very very excited...anyone in nyc w/ vagcom? i'll do video etc after i get mine in...i think i can have my work's obd2 reader scan running data to maybe add to the tech info...

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      10-21-2011 01:45 PM #122
      I just took a video of starting up the car. This video was taken 20-30min after i drove it so the car was still pretty hot.
      i will be taking another one later today to show how it is on a cold start
      its not letting me post up the the video straight onto the post so here is the link:
      http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5506/tcm.mp4

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      10-21-2011 01:56 PM #123
      So what do I need to do to get a hold of this "new" chip? Do I contact chris @ c2 or bfi directly and does it cost anything or could I just drive down there and ask for a swap?
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      10-21-2011 02:27 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by GloryFreak View Post
      So what do I need to do to get a hold of this "new" chip? Do I contact chris @ c2 or bfi directly and does it cost anything or could I just drive down there and ask for a swap?
      to be honest with you i would call c2 since that's who i dealt with to get the problem fixed.
      since my chip was a over year old, they charged $50 to get a brand new chip.
      but i believe if your within the year purchased it should be a free upgrade?

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      10-21-2011 03:25 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by cm123 View Post
      I just took a video of starting up the car. This video was taken 20-30min after i drove it so the car was still pretty hot.
      i will be taking another one later today to show how it is on a cold start
      its not letting me post up the the video straight onto the post so here is the link:
      http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5506/tcm.mp4
      Thanks, any thoughts now that you've driven on it a bit...how does the car drive, are there any legit (aka non placebo lol) differences you've noticed in how your car behaves, etc.

      Kei
      Quote Originally Posted by VWestlife View Post
      If you pace the cars around you, I bet you'll find that people rarely accelerate to 60 MPH in any quicker than 20 seconds.

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