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      10-07-2011 11:15 PM #1
      I have figured out the key to our Headlights! It takes a **** load of time and work but the outcome is amazing! I will have pics and a write up in about thirty minutes

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      10-07-2011 11:39 PM #2
      New lenses? Way to fix the already damaged ones? Are you making them for us?? AH! Too excited! Can't wait to see what you have done!
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      10-08-2011 02:11 AM #6
      headlight restoration kit with the sand paper and stuff? haha works great!

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      10-08-2011 02:12 AM #7
      Sorry about the GIANT pics but I wanted you guys to see up close how crystal clear they are

      I wish I had pictures of my lights before I did it but they were god awful with clear coat cracking off and fading

      Things you will need:

      400 Grit, 600 Grit, 800 Grit, 1000 Grit, 1500 Grit, 2000 Grit, 3000 Grit (Sandpaper)

      Painters tape (to protect your paint)

      Spray water bottle

      Turtle Wax polishing compound

      AutoGlym High Polish Wax (or any very high end wax)

      Buffer (if not have to polish by hand.....not recommended)

      How to do it

      1. Start wet sanding with the 400 and make sure you wet sand!! Make sure all the clear coat is off the light. You will be able to tell the difference of the plastic and the clear coat.

      2. Once the clear coat is off the lights start using the 600 and make sure you do it for at least 10 minutes. The point of gradually going higher and higher is to make sure all the scratches are taken out off the light.

      3. Follow step two through all the stages of sand paper. If you get lazy on the sanding they will turn out like ****!! Take your time and remember the more you sand the better they will turn out.

      4. Once you are done with the 3000 grit, dry your light and put the polishing compound all over your light and buff it for about 5 minutes or so and make sure it's worked in. Then wipe off

      5. Get your high end wax and polish with buffer for about five minutes or so. Then wipe off and you should have amazing lights like mine.

      6. (Optional) but if you want to protect your work its well worth it. I ordered clear Lamin-X to protect the lenses from fading and weathering and everything else.

      This whole process should take you about 3-4 hours not including breaks, so if it doesn't take that long you have not taken your time sanding!!

      Good Luck Fella's

    8. 10-08-2011 08:35 AM #8
      For those that dont know, there is what appears to be a clearcoat on the lenses that must be removed before you can restore them. Thats why you need rougher grit sandpaper. I did my gf's bug with just a turtle wax headlight kit and the results are night and day. Like he said, start off with something rough enough to remove the coating and then work up. Also there is a sealer you must use or in no time your lights will be right back to where you started. Its in with the headlight kits.

    9. 10-08-2011 09:46 AM #9
      It looks awesome!
      But with all that sanding, will your headlight lense be thinner or made easy to crack on a rock impact

      LOOKS

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      10-08-2011 10:15 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by benocehcap View Post
      It looks awesome!
      But with all that sanding, will your headlight lense be thinner or made easy to crack on a rock impact

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      great job
      Thanks man! All your really doing is taking the Clear Coat off then polishing the plastic

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      10-08-2011 10:19 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by cincyTT View Post
      For those that dont know, there is what appears to be a clearcoat on the lenses that must be removed before you can restore them. Thats why you need rougher grit sandpaper. I did my gf's bug with just a turtle wax headlight kit and the results are night and day. Like he said, start off with something rough enough to remove the coating and then work up. Also there is a sealer you must use or in no time your lights will be right back to where you started. Its in with the headlight kits.
      I didn't use a kit....Kits usually only come with 1000 and above to remove haze and oxidation. We have to get rid of our clear coat before we do anything. That sealer stuff they give you is bull**** and most of the time your headlights will go back to that because of the sealer. Thats why I used my little combo and the biggest part is Clear LAMIN-X so they will stay looking great

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      10-08-2011 11:09 AM #12
      i think that most of us have a problem inside of our headlights. Just saying but Jesus that looks good probs go to you sir

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      10-08-2011 01:38 PM #13
      Looks great. I did same on my son's toyota about 2 months ago (foggy-yellow to crystal clear) after doing mine with a combo of 3M kit # 39014 plus 3000 grit. Does indeed return an excellent result.

      FWIW, it's been almost a year and there's no indication of degradation on mine, without LAMIN-X.

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      10-08-2011 01:45 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by bvgoosedd View Post
      i think that most of us have a problem inside of our headlights. ...
      I know several here say there's is on the inside, but I'm not so sure. I guess it is possible, but have any of those folks really tried the above method. I mean, sure TTs are unique, but that unique. Every other car on the highway, with fogged lenses, are fixed with above....but not "most" TTs? I'm just sayin. ;-)
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      10-08-2011 02:05 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by TTC2k5 View Post
      I know several here say there's is on the inside, but I'm not so sure. I guess it is possible, but have any of those folks really tried the above method. I mean, sure TTs are unique, but that unique. Every other car on the highway, with fogged lenses, are fixed with above....but not "most" TTs? I'm just sayin. ;-)
      Guys I thought it was the inside as well but, It's NOT I promise!! I will try and post a pic with the lights on the spidering is totally gone

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      10-08-2011 02:13 PM #16
      Guys if you look at the picture below there is no spidering what so ever..... You can see a few fine scratches and a few pits from rocks but no spidering what so ever. This picture was taken with a 18MP Canon digital SLR so it will show whatever is there! In person you can't see any thing at all.....This picture shows everything


    17. 10-08-2011 02:26 PM #17
      I think you could use a buffing wheel as well. And if your sanding, use a DA sander and save yourself a bunch of time. And YES my lens problem is on the inside. I have some scratches that are on the lower inside part of the lens. I think I could use a dremel with a polishing attachment to fix them. The issue with the spider cracks is that they are deeper on some lenses than others. I've seen some shallow enough that they can be sanded out, and some that were so deep that I wouldn't want to take off that much material. That being said, the lenses are VERY thick.

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      10-08-2011 02:37 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by warranty225cpe View Post
      I think you could use a buffing wheel as well. And if your sanding, use a DA sander and save yourself a bunch of time. And YES my lens problem is on the inside. I have some scratches that are on the lower inside part of the lens. I think I could use a dremel with a polishing attachment to fix them. The issue with the spider cracks is that they are deeper on some lenses than others. I've seen some shallow enough that they can be sanded out, and some that were so deep that I wouldn't want to take off that much material. That being said, the lenses are VERY thick.
      I had external scratches in mine that were very, very deep. Got about 90% out with 3M plus 3000 grit. it's a doable do.

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      10-08-2011 02:37 PM #19
      I know what your saying man. I actually used 180 grit to get down to the spidering on mine. But I would never tell anyone to do that to their lights because if you don't know what your doing you can mess it up! I also would not use a any air tools because I tried on mine and actually started to burn some of the plastic because of the high rpm's. But on my one light I only had to go to a 600 and sanded at the point for about twenty minutes until the spidering was gone. If you put in the work and take your time you will have a great set of lights! The only other option is to spend 1k on new headlights because no one makes lenses for our cars. I have asked all around the world.

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      10-08-2011 02:41 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by TTC2k5 View Post
      I had external scratches in mine that were very, very deep. Got about 90% out with 3M plus 3000 grit. it's a doable do.

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      Looks great man! Its just a common misconception on this forum that its on the inside of our lenses but it's not

    21. 10-08-2011 02:51 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by 1.8 skeet skeet View Post
      Its just a common misconception on this forum that its on the inside of our lenses but IN MOST CASES it's not
      Edited for accuracy

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      10-08-2011 03:05 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by warranty225cpe View Post
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      I really want to agree with you but I have taken the lights apart and I also went as far as to picking up and extra headlight from the spare TT that I have access to. I sanded the inside only on that light like I did on the out side of these light and nothing happened!! The spidering was still there. Then I did the out side and it all went away like magic. I wouldnt bull**** you guys! I have been trying a solution to these stupid headlights and I found one!

      If people want to send me headlight lenses I might do it for you if your scared too.

      Trust me I had to have a few beers before I started sanding!

      There just isnt any clear coat on the inside of our lights!! I called Bosch that makes them and they said they would never do that, but they do coat the out side for longevity!

    23. 10-08-2011 04:25 PM #23
      My drivers side lens DOES have scratches on the inside. I can feel them with my fingernail. That's why I said that. I'm not knocking what you've done. I bought the lens used and somehow it ended up with scratches on the inside.

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      10-08-2011 05:18 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by warranty225cpe View Post
      My drivers side lens DOES have scratches on the inside. I can feel them with my fingernail. That's why I said that. I'm not knocking what you've done. I bought the lens used and somehow it ended up with scratches on the inside.
      Oh I know your not bro.....I Just didn't want you to have to do more work then you had to man.... If you have some small scratches I would try a nice 2000 or 3000 grit on it and a nice polishing compound and it should come right out I just want to help you bud

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      Thank you.

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      10-09-2011 12:58 PM #26
      as soon as i get my car back i am gonna take my headlights out and do this i really think mine are in the inside i have done the 3m thing and the out side looked good but when i turn the lights on its horrible. its weird too because its as if the inside is getting burned by the hid.

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      10-09-2011 06:51 PM #27
      Final outcome looks amazing dude. Glad I got to help out, at least a little, with it.

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      10-10-2011 12:59 AM #28
      Do yourself a favor and find a clearbra guy/company. clear bra the headlights!! my car is a '02, there's no crystallization and of course no chipping i had to redo them after about 85k, but i threw the guy $20!!!

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      10-10-2011 01:14 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by 1.8tizzle View Post
      Final outcome looks amazing dude. Glad I got to help out, at least a little, with it.
      Thanks for your help brother

      Quote Originally Posted by M this 1! View Post
      Do yourself a favor and find a clearbra guy/company. clear bra the headlights!! my car is a '02, there's no crystallization and of course no chipping i had to redo them after about 85k, but i threw the guy $20!!!
      Yeah I have ordered Lamin-X its the same as the clear Bra.....Your right man its gonna be well worth it

    30. 10-10-2011 01:39 PM #30
      You are a wizard 1.8 skeet skeet! total cool awesome man!

      This will be on my list to do, as soon i grow some courage
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      10-10-2011 09:45 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by benocehcap View Post
      You are a wizard 1.8 skeet skeet! total cool awesome man!

      This will be on my list to do, as soon i grow some courage
      Thanks bro! Just remember the more time you put into the sanding the better they will turn out..... Don't be nervous man! They will turn out great

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      10-11-2011 10:08 AM #32
      i need to do this on the inside of my lenses.....water got in there somehow, and when it evaporated left all sorts of minieral deposits on the lense so there is fogging all over. looks like ass......ugh...how i do not look forward to baking my headlight.

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      10-11-2011 10:39 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by speed51133! View Post
      i need to do this on the inside of my lenses.....water got in there somehow, and when it evaporated left all sorts of minieral deposits on the lense so there is fogging all over. looks like ass......ugh...how i do not look forward to baking my headlight.
      Baking the light is no big deal. Keep the temp low (170F), keep the time in oven low (5-10 minutes) and work the lens of in steps. bake, pull, bake, pull, etc.

      when I did mine, i baked for 10 mins, pulled and began working the lens off. But the adhesive hardens as it cools so after a couple of min pulling, i stopped and put it back in the oven for 5 mins. Pulled it from the oven and worked it, then back in the oven. Total of maybe 3-4 iterations and 30 minutes. Do the same for install and you'll get a very nice tight seal for closure.

      edit:
      I had difficulty getting one light to fully close. so I used a heat gun and GENTLY warmed the adhesive so I could close it up. If using a heat gun, be very gentle with the heat. The gun concentrates the heat on the plastic and some have had disasterous results: MELTING.

      See pics below for closed versus not closed.

      not fully closed:


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      10-11-2011 12:01 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by 1.8 skeet skeet View Post
      Wow, was about to look for clear lenses, then there was your display. Will give a it a try!!
      Thanks in advance.

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      If you guys have any questions at all.... I will be glad to help you with whatever you would need

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