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    Thread: class action against VW for timing chain problem

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      12-28-2011 01:27 PM #26
      65K is where you'd be replacing the timing chain on many other VWs especially the vr6. At least VW bothered to fix it in later models. Suck it up and well welcome to the wonderful world of german cars

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      12-28-2011 04:26 PM #27
      Uhhhh...what? Can you explain to me what Vws youre talking about that have their timing chains or belts replaced at 65k cause I dont know of any, especially a Vr6? Vr6 timing chains go well over 100k before they even start making any noise usually. 2.0 8v is recommended around 85k, same with the 1.8t I believe but that doesnt mean it needs to be done. They will and can last longer but its better not to push it with a belt. Alls I said is that it sucks that some of us with the earlier engines have to worry about the chains going bad prematurely because of a design flaw that VW fails to recognize, not really complaining about it. This motor has been great and Im sure will be for many more miles to come. I know all about owning German cars alright, thats all Ive ever driven since I owned a car and thats all my entire family has ever owned.
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      12-28-2011 05:01 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by BlackRabbit2point5 View Post
      65K is where you'd be replacing the timing chain on many other VWs especially the vr6. At least VW bothered to fix it in later models. Suck it up and well welcome to the wonderful world of german cars

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      Normally the rubber timing belts have service intervals of 60-80k. Chains usually last at least 100k, and its usually the crappy plastic guide that dies first, causing the chain to stretch. I don't know where you heard vr6 chains weren't reliable, but that is wrong . I've seen vr's with chain noise at 200k plus that started at 90k and it still didn't jump timing.

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      12-28-2011 10:46 PM #29
      I too have owned nothing but German cars as well as my family. I have owned all kinds of german cars: VW, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, and Audi. Timing chains should last 100k. I agree that cheap plastic guides are the problem that causes the eventual stretch and failure of the Timing Chain. I am glad that I was able to get VW to take care of the problem, however, it took persistance on my part and not taking "no" for an answer.

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      12-28-2011 11:24 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by BlackRabbit2point5 View Post
      65K is where you'd be replacing the timing chain on many other VWs especially the vr6. At least VW bothered to fix it in later models. Suck it up and well welcome to the wonderful world of german cars

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      That's a bunch of BS. Early VRs had an upper tensioner rail that could wear out and on mine (an early-style) it was just starting to wear through at 125k. Later VRs had an improved upper tensioner rail and could last even longer before any issues. Chain issues on VRs are way more overrated than people make them out to be.
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      12-29-2011 11:15 AM #31
      I get the feeling this 2.5L is a somewhat over-rated issue as well, to say its "consistently" an issue with 05.5 & 06 models would imply that nearly every unit sold is experiencing failures. This seems to be more a case of a few failures and then news spreads like wild-fire and everybody joins in on a lynch mob.

      Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying VW should do nothing with the cases of chain related issues, i agree that it should be covered in full should it happen, and that some of these failures are happening prematurely. But to say it is a rampant issue with every vehicle is going a little far.

      I'll also admit these stories do have me a little paranoid with my Jetta but i have had no issues thus far and i'm not babying it just because of possible issues.

      My 2 cents, if you're paranoid, pop your upper chain cover off and take a look or go have it checked out. And like previously stated in this and other threads regarding this, if you buy new chains and guides to do a timing chain job, you're getting revised pieces so the issue won't occur again.

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      05-01-2012 01:32 AM #32
      I'll sign...130k miles and engine light just came on....dealerships says stretched chain. Thought the chains are better then belts?? Chains are suppose to out last he car??? Bulls@&t......

    8. 05-01-2012 09:25 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by kingrick570 View Post
      I'll sign...130k miles and engine light just came on....dealerships says stretched chain. Thought the chains are better then belts?? Chains are suppose to out last he car??? Bulls@&t......
      Yeah, no kidding. I'm at 140k km and mine is going.

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      05-01-2012 09:51 AM #34
      I was at 86K miles when mine went. I am currently in the process of getting it repaired.

      I would gladly sign a petition.

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      05-01-2012 10:45 AM #35
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