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    Thread: DSG Service Interval and Cost?

    1. 10-15-2011 08:51 AM #1
      Long time member here still with my '99 Passat 1.8T I bought new. Not my primary car so I don't come here as often.

      Looking at the '12 Passat for my parents and perhaps the TDI. Was wondering what the service interval on the DGG is and the cost to do it. Thought I read a while back it's $300-400 at the dealer and has to be done every 40,000 miles.

      And why did they go with the DGS vs. the 6 speed Tip?

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      10-15-2011 11:35 AM #2
      It varies by dealer so call the one you would go to and ask. I've heard 400-700 depending on the dealership. I noticed that all the tdi's recently 09 and up all have dsg. Golf jetta passat etc. I believe it is more fuel efficient

    3. 10-15-2011 12:23 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by lugubre3645 View Post
      It varies by dealer so call the one you would go to and ask. I've heard 400-700 depending on the dealership. I noticed that all the tdi's recently 09 and up all have dsg. Golf jetta passat etc. I believe it is more fuel efficient
      Wow. What would cost so much in that service? What is the material and labor break down?
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      10-15-2011 12:29 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by SilverFlash View Post
      Wow. What would cost so much in that service? What is the material and labor break down?
      Very expensive transmission lubricant. A kit with the filter, o ring seal, washer and 6 quarts of fluid is about $120 to $140. The rest is labor. There some special equipment and a lot of patience to do this job. There are videos on YouTube for DIYers.

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      10-15-2011 04:18 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by SilverFlash View Post
      Long time member here still with my '99 Passat 1.8T I bought new. Not my primary car so I don't come here as often.

      Looking at the '12 Passat for my parents and perhaps the TDI. Was wondering what the service interval on the DGG is and the cost to do it. Thought I read a while back it's $300-400 at the dealer and has to be done every 40,000 miles.

      And why did they go with the DGS vs. the 6 speed Tip?

      Thanks!
      In NC the dealers get around $450 for the DSG service. Trouble is it usually comes with the regular 40,000 mile service which might be another $500. You can buy the parts online and do it yourself or have another auto service do it. There's even a how to on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iFLxpVYE2I

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      10-15-2011 11:52 PM #6
      Here is my how to with a different video: http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/m...ge-service.htm The full method is shown but you can drain-measure-refill method. No harder than an oil change...but even those managed to get messed up by someone!

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      10-22-2011 02:39 AM #7
      Ok everything that is getting ordered for the TDi for the most part are going to be either a manual trans, or the DSG. The main reason is that the DSG give the mileage benifit that the manual trans did before.

      To replace the fluid is pretty straight forward. Drain the out the old stuff. For that a large hex to remove the drain. On earlier model of the DSG there was a drain and a fill but the later model DSG only have one. The filter is under the battery.
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      10-22-2011 02:41 AM #8
      DSG service has been changed to every 50k miles. As per Volkswagen Of America
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      10-22-2011 08:40 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Mxkmster View Post
      DSG service has been changed to every 50k miles. As per Volkswagen Of America
      Where did you see this?

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      10-27-2011 01:42 AM #10
      I work for VW. When I posted that I hear it word of mouth. It was due to the 40k service being at the same time. The DSG also had the warranty extended to 100k miles. If you have a problem with your direct shift gearbox just call your dealer and have them check it out for you. Its like what VW did with valvebodys backin the day
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      10-27-2011 06:55 AM #11
      Why do you guys complain so much about maintenance and service charges? Prices vary from dealer to dealer however, it is what it is. Why complain about why it's so expensive and etc? If you don't want to perform maintenance by the dealer then go to a mom/pop shop or do it yourself. If maintenance cost is such a concern for you folks, why do you guys buy such cars? Buy yourself a Ford Fiesta and maintenance will be fraction of VW.

      I apologize if I come off rude but there are many people who can't afford a certain type of vehicle but end up buying it anyway and then complains about maintenance. If you're financially challenged, please just sell the car and buy something more affordable.
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      10-27-2011 01:04 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Sammzway View Post
      Why do you guys complain so much about maintenance and service charges? Prices vary from dealer to dealer however, it is what it is. Why complain about why it's so expensive and etc? If you don't want to perform maintenance by the dealer then go to a mom/pop shop or do it yourself. If maintenance cost is such a concern for you folks, why do you guys buy such cars? Buy yourself a Ford Fiesta and maintenance will be fraction of VW.

      I apologize if I come off rude but there are many people who can't afford a certain type of vehicle but end up buying it anyway and then complains about maintenance. If you're financially challenged, please just sell the car and buy something more affordable.
      The problem is many customers new to VW are unaware of the incredibly high costs for REGULAR maintenance of their VW. I have several friends who came from Toyota/Honda and now own a VW TDI (they thought they would be saving big money with the high mpgs of the TDI). However, they are very upset with the $80 oil changes, the $500 DSG (every 50k) and the $1,200 timing belt/water pump (every 80k)... because they were unaware of these costs before they purchased their VW and their assumed gas saving with the TDI quickly evaporate with these added expenses.

      Of course, the VW salesperson doesn't volunteer this type of info on the initial sale of the car...
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      10-27-2011 01:07 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by mr_hockey View Post
      The problem is many customers new to VW are unaware of the incredibly high costs for REGULAR maintenance of their VW. I have several friends who came from Toyota/Honda and now own a VW. They are very upset with the $80 oil changes, the $500 DSG (every 50k) and the $1,200 timing belt/water pump (every 80k)... because they were unaware of these costs before they purchased their VW.

      Of course, the VW salesperson doesn't volunteer this type of info on the initial sale of the car...
      What??!!!! $80 for an oil change? I got away from my BMWs for the high cost of maintenance.

      LOL! Oh well. I guess the money I save on gas will go towards maintenance.

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      10-27-2011 09:59 PM #14
      Yepp synthic oil changes that were the money is. Not to mention that the plugs are like 15 a pop every 40k. I drive a lexus and its the same way dont buy a car you cant afford. You get a lot for your money in a VW you just have to pay a lot to keeping it nice other wise it turns into a pile of crap. The best bang for buck is and always have been the NA 2.0L Jettas. They are gutless but there is a lot less to fix
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      11-05-2011 09:40 PM #15
      The DSG/TDI combo maintenance cost probably outweighs the savings in fuel.

      VWs don't have to be expensive to maintain. But they are if you take them to dealers. I just got the following at a very competent indy:

      - rear brake pads
      - turned rear brake rotors (standard practice is to change rotors, but they were still thick enough)
      - 4qt synth oil
      - oil filter
      - patch a flat tire
      - replace one headlight bulb

      My cost: $265 (maybe $20 break because I know the owner).

      Guessed dealer cost: $400-500.

      PS: this is for a 1.8T B5.5.
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      11-07-2011 01:17 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by av_audi View Post

      Guessed dealer cost: $400-500.
      Or more. I was quoted $90 for oil change + $450 for rear brake job + $100 for the headlight. I had them do the oil, took my brakes to an indy and did the headlight on my own.



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      11-07-2011 08:10 AM #17
      There's a lot of stuff that you can do on your own to save a lot of $. Oil changes are extremely easy to do with the right tools and even the DSG maintenance can be done following basic instructions. Sometimes you end up using better stuff and saving money at the same time. I don't know about other people but I actually enjoy working on my cars while saving money at the same time.

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      11-08-2011 12:26 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Mxkmster View Post
      DSG service has been changed to every 50k miles. As per Volkswagen Of America
      I haven't seen any 2012 schedules, but on 2011's, the DSG fluid and filter change is every 40K. I was told the schedules hadn't changed for 2012, but I'm not sure about. Maybe some owners can check their manual and report.

      The regular automatic, as used in the 2.5, gets a fluid change at 50k. It was originally added to the schedule in 2009 as a fluid and filter change at 40k, but then, IIRC, it was switched to fluid only at 40k, and then switched to 50k. This was done at the request of dealers who felt that a super expensive 40k service was the wrong way to start a relationship with customers coming off the carefree maintenance plan.

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      11-09-2011 12:54 AM #19
      Ill look more into it I'll find the maintance charts and as Volkswagen and see what they have to say.
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      05-02-2013 12:54 PM #20
      [Raising thread from the dead...]

      Quote Originally Posted by mr_hockey View Post
      $80 oil change
      $500 DSG
      $1,200 timing belt/water pump
      Just chiming in with my experiences...
      DIY Oil changes on my MKV were never more than $40. I have yet to do my MKVI.
      DSG is $286 at JD Auto (Oregon).
      Timing belt on my MKV was $900 at Armstrong VW (Oregon).
      I don't think VW's are outrageous to maintain. Timing belts are bad on just about any vehicle. If you don't like it I would suggest a vehicle w/ a timing chain or a manual transmission
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      05-02-2013 10:33 PM #21
      Good topic. VW has made all these efforts to offer "free service" to lure the Honda- Toyota (et al) crowd and now they have them, but what will happen when all these warranties expire? These newbies won't be used to the cost the old customers are used to. I remember the $200 oil changes on brand new cars. Corporate was annoyed because they couldn't get a handle on why Americans wouldn't buy their cars. What will they do next? We know how building bargain luxury cars worked out.

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      05-02-2013 10:42 PM #22
      This service is so easy. I'll keep this short.

      Buy a $110 DSG service kit from BoraParts.com.
      Buy a $250 Micro-CAN VCDS from Ross-Tech.

      Perform the simple service with your new tool. I just bought a VCDS and, at 40k with the warranty nearly all gone it will be the most valuable tool you could ever have for that car. Not only do you need the VCDS for trans temp (which you probably could do with a Scan-Gauge II) but also to reset your DSG which is only possible with VCDS or dealer scan tool.

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      05-03-2013 12:34 PM #23
      Wow... After reading all of this I'm sure glad I bought a good ol' 2.5 with the 6spd auto.
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      05-03-2013 12:48 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by AufMitDemSpiel View Post
      Wow... After reading all of this I'm sure glad I bought a good ol' 2.5 with the 6spd auto.
      6sp 'auto'? As in DSG?
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      05-03-2013 01:02 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by evolDiesel View Post
      6sp 'auto'? As in DSG?
      I believe all the 2.5 Passats have the old 6 speed automatic (non-DSG) transmission.
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      05-03-2013 01:51 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by AufMitDemSpiel View Post
      I believe all the 2.5 Passats have the old 6 speed automatic (non-DSG) transmission.
      I don't know how 'old' but VW has been doing DSG for a long time now. What year is your Passat? I know... getting off topic here
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      05-04-2013 12:46 AM #27
      Am I the only one who thinks paying $80 for a full-synthetic oil change that lasts 10k miles is a deal? A normal dino oil change normally costs $30 (at a real shop with no discount) and you have to do that every 3k miles (so you'll spend $90 for that year instead of $80).

      A trans fluid exchange and filter drop cost me $200 at most shops and that had to be done every 30k (for domestic V6 FWD, 20k was safer). I have a manual now so I only have to worry about a clutch replacement when that fails.

      Spark plugs on my previous car (had a DOHC V6) cost $200 because they were double platinums and the intake manifold had to be removed, but it had a 100k interval. Spark plugs on an older car would have been about $100 parts and labor at a shop ($80 hourly rate, $2 each copper plug, and tax) every 30k (probably had to do cap and rotor too which is another $20).

      Things have a longer interval and it's going to cost more. Just some perspective to consider.
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      05-04-2013 05:38 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by evolDiesel View Post
      I don't know how 'old' but VW has been doing DSG for a long time now. What year is your Passat? I know... getting off topic here
      Only the V6 & the TDI in the B7 Passat have the DSG
      2.5 has a regular auto

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      05-04-2013 11:22 AM #29
      Cool .

      Getting back on topic for a sec.. It seems like the interval should still be 40K, and the only reason it went to 50K was to try and even out the cost between scheduled services? Not bc engineering/quality proved out that we could eek out an additional 25% between service cycles .

      I don't know; for me I'm thinking increased torque from modifications ... probably best to stay every 40K .
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    30. 05-04-2013 01:32 PM #30
      DSG Service is every 40k miles for the Passat, including 2012 and 2013 models, per the VW maintenance schedule available on erWin. The poster above from 2011 was wrong or confused with the non-dsg auto boxes which are changed at 50k miles.
      Last edited by kydsid; 05-04-2013 at 01:37 PM.

    31. 07-04-2013 04:00 PM #31
      I just had my 2010 CC given a 40k service. Dealer quoted $699 for service when I booked it. I saw on their website that they included the DSG in the list of items to be done, so thought that it would be an OK price. When I got there, they wrote me up for a separate $299 DSG service.
      I got annoyed and decided on the spot I'd do the DSG later (I had not actually reached 40k miles yet). I gave the service writer some pain about the cost of the service and the fact that DSG was not included, his response was that not all CCs have a DSG (which I doubted), but that he could also do the service for $449. This confused me quite a bit. He explained that the $449 service is the manufacturer recommended service, and that the dealer adds several other items such as injector system cleaning ("Since we have very poor quality gas in this area").
      I saw red and managed to sign for the manufacturer recommended service plus DSG before I ripped the guy's head off.

      I always fill up with Shell gas, and really don't appreciate the dealer adding items to the service that are not required without telling me. If you get a very high quote, check what it includes...
      I also have an Accura MDX, and don't believe I have ever spent more than $150 in service... wonder how that works? Must not be a premium-vehicle?

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      We pick up our new Passat TDI Saturday.....and I admit, if I wasn't used to doing my own routine maintenance on cars, we'd probably have ended up with another make altogether.

      A few items:

      1. If you can change your oil, you can do the DSG service without going back and getting a college degree. There's a relatively straightforward drain - measure -refill method that someone on myturbodiesel.com worked out (it's readily available) that dispenses with the Rube Goldberg VW filling kit (boy, were they out to lunch on that one!) and the whole transmission temperature measuring business. This fiddly business and the labor is why this service is so prohibitive at dealer service departments. (But an earlier post was correct: you ought to be able to find a competent indie who'll do this service for $300 including parts.)

      2. Yeah, synthetic oil is expensive. But 4.5 quarts of the 507.00 oil that goes in the new Passat every 10K costs $12 a quart, and the 4 quarts of Mobil 1 0W-40 that goes in our ten year old SAAB every 5K costs $8 a quart. Can you figure out which is the more expensive oil change?

      3. Doing the timing belt / water pump on the NMS Passat is every 130K, not 80K. And an interesting fact is that timing chains DO wear out. Check and see what it costs to replace one of those sometime.

      4. Whatever I do, I certainly don't go to a dealer and let them sell me some $600 "maintenance interval package" without going through it item by item. I went into a dealer once and told them it was for sparkplugs (I prefer to have them do the plugs....if they cross-thread one, it's on THEM). The service writer then shoves a printout at me and says "We'll just go ahead and do that hmrhmr service, m'kay?" I looked at the printout and it had all sorts of inspections and crap, and instead of $50 to change the plugs, it was $800. I just told him to do the plugs and lose the rest, and that was that.

      5. I've been driving and maintaining cars for 50 years, and they're ALL expensive. If you can't stand the gaff, take the bus.

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      07-05-2013 02:35 AM #33
      Honestly... the last 2 relies are like Blue Velvet strange , wow.
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      Quote Originally Posted by evolDiesel View Post
      Honestly... the last 2 relies are like Blue Velvet strange , wow.
      This is a pointless post. To give mine one, I'll ask: too many words, or too many with more than one syllable?

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      07-05-2013 10:24 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Rico1 View Post
      ...Too many words, or too many with more than one syllable?
      Too many words. I'm good with the syllables .

      If anyone still cares about the OP's post...

      1. Cost: $110 yourself / $300 independent shop / $500 dealer

      2. Interval: Every 40,000 miles

      3. Why: Better fuel economy, torque transmission, and shift times.
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