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    View Poll Results: Best used 4x4 (for reliability, value and cool factor)

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    • Toyota Tundra

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    Thread: Best 4x4 for around $10,000

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      10-15-2011 07:30 PM #1
      Best used 4x4 for around $10,000?

      Not for wheeling just driving snowy mountain roads in the Rockies. Think going up to Breckenridge or Winter Park when it's dumping snow to go skiing or towing a 2 place snowmobile trailer with 2 800cc Mountain sleds.

      Fords are out due to the spark plug issues.

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      10-15-2011 07:34 PM #2
      How about the newer body style 4runners?
      They are getting cheaper.
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      10-15-2011 07:39 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by rsj0714 View Post
      How about the newer body style 4runners?
      They are kick ass! But I just sold my 2004 2Runner SR5 and just wanted to change things up a bit. I thought I was going to keep it longer but I'm moving from the Bay Area to CO and now need a 4wd. This is mine, bought in Louisiana a couple years ago.

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      10-15-2011 08:05 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by 1badMKIrocco View Post
      Fords are out due to the spark plug issues.
      FWIW- this Ford 3 valve spark plug issue can be dealt with.
      But it is a time consuming process (and why people break the plugs by hurrying).
      If this was a German vehicle issue, German car fans would be blaming the owners for the issue. (actually.. I meant that)

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      10-15-2011 08:07 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by 1badMKIrocco View Post
      They are kick ass! But I just sold my 2004 2Runner SR5 and just wanted to change things up a bit. I thought I was going to keep it longer but I'm moving from the Bay Area to CO and now need a 4wd. This is mine, bought in Louisiana a couple years ago.

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      Well if you can find one the regular cab Z71's are pretty awesome.
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      10-15-2011 08:36 PM #6
      idk, but I always liked those land cruisers

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      10-15-2011 08:46 PM #7
      WHAT? No Tacoma?!?!?

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      10-15-2011 09:40 PM #8
      I didn't vote, but the Nissan Xterra is super popular in these parts.
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      10-15-2011 11:53 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by bmann View Post
      I didn't vote, but the Nissan Xterra is super popular in these parts.
      Boulder is exactly where I'm moving to! My job is in Gun Barrel...

      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      WHAT? No Tacoma?!?!?
      I've had 2 of them, and locally they are RIDICULOUSLY overpriced! Fremont Toyota was asking only 3 grand less for a 4 year old used truck with 30K on it as the exact same NEW truck.

      I've seen 10 year old bald tire beat to h3ll Tacos for around $10K so even though they're nice trucks it's not worth it to me to spend so much for a truck that is only slightly better if not equal to other trucks selling for THOUSANDS less. My first Tacoma was a 1997 4x4 ext cab that I bought with 100K on it for around 10K 5 years ago and within 1 year I had to replace both front wheel bearings which was a $600 job (the parts alone were nearly $300) and the AirCon system went out costing another $600! oh yeah and the timing belt job is a MoFO. Luckily my 2nd Taco was a 2000 4cyl PreRunner I bought with 80K on it for $3500, I beat it for a year or so and put tires and pepboys shocks it and sold it $4500 a year later.

      If a 2005.5 4x4 4.0 V6 Extended Cab Tacoma could be had for around $10K I'd buy it, but you're dreaming if you think you can have that truck for less than $15,000.....


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      10-15-2011 11:59 PM #10
      Nissan xterra.
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      10-16-2011 07:00 AM #12
      I wouldnt get an 80. By now they have a ton of miles on them and they have head gasket issues. A 100 would be a better bet. Personally, a Chevrolet could do it for the same money and less miles (plus the advantage of cheap parts).

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      10-16-2011 07:01 AM #13
      Where's the 4.0 in the poll? Clearly, that's the only answer.

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      10-16-2011 07:25 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by stascom View Post
      Where's the 4.0 in the poll? Clearly, that's the only answer.
      Yeah they're good. I considered them actually. The XJ is just a bit on the small side for me but they're competent wheelers and CHEAP.

      I looked at a nice Silverado today with 85K on it for $10K but I just didn't like the way it drove; it was lifted and the steering was just too sloppy.

      I got this, a GC Limited 4.7. Drove nice and was in decent shape, way less than $10K too.

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      10-16-2011 09:07 PM #16
      X2 Vote for '99+ Ford Ranger, 4.0L try to find one with a manual and limited slip, the super rare "Level II Off Road" models are especially desirable, they had 1" OEM lift, LSD, manual trans.

      Op if you get a chance just google or Youtube Rangers "Off Road" I really don't think there are more capable machines for the cheap.

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      10-16-2011 09:52 PM #17
      Hard to go wrong with a full size GM truck for 4x4 and towing ability. Im up to 60k in my Sierra, my last Silverado was flawless for 180k. Old school tech, pushrod engine cheap parts.

      Snow performance is as good as your tires are. I plow all winter with standard at tires and 300lbs ballast. I'd look for one with the auto 4x4 and the autolocking G80 rear end. The G80 is standard on most trucks with the Z71 package or tow package. But do some research on the autolocker. It works great in offroad conditions but can be quirkey when it kicks in at highway speed.

      I like my WJ but would not buy another. Nice truck and cheap to buy used. But it had a bunch of small problems. Window regulators x4, u joints, hvac system and electric problems all over.
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      10-16-2011 11:19 PM #18
      Subaru Forester XT will do you right and be dead reliable and fast. The turbo will mitigate the power sapping effects of altitude.

      Otherwise, Xterra is not a bad choice although it is BOF and can be a rough ride.
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      10-17-2011 05:12 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by 1badMKIrocco View Post
      +1. I love my '04 4.7 Limited.

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      10-17-2011 05:14 PM #20
      Stay away from anything Nissan unless you receive royalties from OPEC

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      10-17-2011 06:18 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by morecarsthanbrains View Post
      I wouldnt get an 80. By now they have a ton of miles on them and they have head gasket issues. A 100 would be a better bet. Personally, a Chevrolet could do it for the same money and less miles (plus the advantage of cheap parts).

      I'm beginning to think you are anti 80 series.

      By now I think most of them that were going to have a head gasket problem would have already had it.


      I love the FZJ80, but I would not recommend one for towing, especially at elevation.

      Everyone has their opinions about tow vehicles, but I'm happier with a V8 (excluding turbo diesels) for
      any regular towing, more so in the mountains.

      I vote Tundra 2003 + to get the 5spd auto.

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      10-17-2011 09:23 PM #22
      FZJ80 or even better HDJ80 some pics of a sweet landcruiser outfitted for Icelandic exploration!





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      10-17-2011 09:44 PM #23
      ^^^^ FACK YES!!! That's what I want in my driveway... TOMORROW!
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    24. 10-17-2011 09:56 PM #24
      Honestly, don't over buy what you need. I spent a long time looking at FJ80's, after all they have the amazing FZ motor, SL Front and Rear and bad ass e-locks. The chassis is a tank as well.


      However, my price range (sub $5,000) met I was looking at garbage, FJ80s are rare in the scrape yards and lets face it, they get sub-par gas mileage. Expect ~14-15mpg. I also knew I'd want to turbo the beast.

      I ended up looking for a sub $3,000 Montero. Their just as capable off road, have huge after market and are once again tanks, only the Mitsu V6 is able to get 20mpg. I ended up with a 4runner and could not be happier.

      The truck has fantastic ground clearance stock, is nicely built and has a lot of neat features that make its well thought out. (access panel for oil filter!!)

      I've now put nearly 15k miles on it, driving out to Reno, the Rockies, taking it a days worth out into Wyoming, Michigan Dunes, some of the trails in souther Indiana as well as even Burning Man this year. The thing is a beast! (even if under powered)





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      10-17-2011 09:58 PM #25
      the guy is selling it actually

      HDJ81 for sale
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    26. 10-17-2011 10:00 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by schwein View Post
      the guy is selling it actually

      HDJ81 for sale
      $21,500 - and its in Iceland.

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      10-17-2011 10:01 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by VertigoGTI View Post
      ^^^^ FACK YES!!! That's what I want in my driveway... TOMORROW!
      damn always loved that generation Land Cruiser

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      10-17-2011 10:02 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Corbic View Post
      $21,500 - and its in Iceland.
      indeed, it is though for sale
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      10-18-2011 06:51 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by PoorHouse View Post
      I'm beginning to think you are anti 80 series.

      By now I think most of them that were going to have a head gasket problem would have already had it.


      I love the FZJ80, but I would not recommend one for towing, especially at elevation.
      Thats why I didnt recommend one. I am not anti 80 series but its true Im not keen on them. I dont like 62s either. Or 40s for that matter. Personal preference but at $10k, a 4x4 Chevy would be a better choice, especially given all of his requirements.

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      10-18-2011 07:10 AM #30
      100-Series Land Cruiser would be awesome but you're not touching one for $10k or under.

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      10-18-2011 08:34 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      100-Series Land Cruiser would be awesome but you're not touching one for $10k or under.
      You can definitely find a 100 series for 10k if not less, it will take looking. Last year when i bought mu 80 series i saw a beautiful 2000 100 for sale in kennebunport maine for exactly 10k obo.. It had 97k on it... You cant just go buy one like the newer 4runners for that price but they are definitely around

      98 landcruiser v8 under 100k nice looking ride! A hair over 10k took me 30 seconds to find it on my phone.




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    32. 10-18-2011 09:40 AM #32
      Your link does not work. A national search of Autotrader yields 5 listing, mileage as follows -

      143k
      210k
      163k
      234k
      182k

      This is the bottom of the barrel.

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      10-18-2011 09:52 AM #33
      Get the 4.7 Grand Cherokee and save the other $5000 for a snowy day.

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      10-18-2011 10:21 AM #34
      Out of the options, I would vote for the Chevy. I would also skip buying a Toyota as you'll have to step down to a higher mileage and/or older vehicle for the same price point. Furthermore, Chevy trucks are reliable but if something does break, you can buy parts anywhere and they are easy to fix as well.

      I would also consider an F-150 - as noted above, the "spark plug" issue is an easy fix.
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      10-18-2011 10:50 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Corbic View Post
      Your link does not work. A national search of Autotrader yields 5 listing, mileage as follows -

      143k
      210k
      163k
      234k
      182k

      This is the bottom of the barrel.
      im on my phone but i tried to fix my link. Autotrader is garbage, search cars.com or craigslist via search tempest and you will find several less than 100k and for with in a reasonable offer of 10k.. Just saying i am doing this through my crappy nokia cell phone and am able to find these deals at a computer im sure i could find more!
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