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    Thread: Volt Pic Post.........High VOLTage or Low? Post pictures and stories/experiences of your Volt or someone's you know or have driven.

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      10-20-2011 06:34 PM #151
      ^

      eh....you win some, you lose some

      One store chain isn't a definitive answer to what the future holds.

      But thanks, Obin, for posting that



      This will all sort out one way or another and it's certainly a fluid situation at this point.

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      10-20-2011 07:43 PM #152
      Parking structures are ripe for solar installations with these charging stations.

      It's going to be quite a new frontier for these things. Preparations are in place to reduce "range anxiety" for the Nissan Leafs, but, of course, the Volts don't have to deal with that sort of thing

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      10-20-2011 08:36 PM #153
      The Smart Phone deal that comes with the Volt is pretty cool

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      10-20-2011 08:49 PM #154
      Is that the normal plug-in Prius connection? Hello backing into charging spots
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      10-20-2011 09:06 PM #155
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      Car is low to the ground.


      Untrue! Needs moar low
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      10-20-2011 10:34 PM #156
      Quote Originally Posted by jarski View Post
      Untrue! Needs moar low


      well now.

      I see we are following the TCL motto of "low"

      However, the car is already scraping at every driveway and speed bump with the world's lowest production car air dam as far as I can tell....

      But I'm sure someone will dump one of these into weeds somehow

      Just a matter of time.

      In stock form, this is where it's at

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      10-20-2011 10:43 PM #157
      Quote Originally Posted by Obin Robinson View Post
      Apparently stores providing chargers for EV customers was tried and it didn't work:
      The article states they put them in in 2006. There weren't any EV's back then! The GM EV1 had already been discontinued and the Leaf & Volt weren't out yet. Sheer bad luck / bad timing on their part to remove them just as the Leaf and Volt are hitting homes all over CA and AZ especially, and eventually nationwide.
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      10-21-2011 12:32 AM #158


      Quote Originally Posted by l88m22vette View Post
      Is that the normal plug-in Prius connection? Hello backing into charging spots

      well, from the looks of it, they are using some really long cords so I guess he doesn't have to back in. Hence the front end first parking and run the cord around to the back.

      seems like there isn't a problem (although it does seem a strange way to do it)

      Particularly when you encounter this sort of charging station cord

      (so I guess I do see your point... backing into charging spots.... )


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      10-21-2011 07:29 AM #159
      ^

      yep.... putting the charge port all the way to the back rear of the car doesn't seem to make sense

      Front is best. This one is at least better than that Prius up above, it seems to me.

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      10-21-2011 07:34 AM #160
      The charge spot on the production Prius Plug-in is on the rear flank by the gas filler. (not sure what the deal is with the blue car above).

      http://www.toyota.com/prius-plug-in/


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      10-21-2011 10:11 AM #161
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      The charge spot on the production Prius Plug-in is on the rear flank by the gas filler. (not sure what the deal is with the blue car above).

      http://www.toyota.com/prius-plug-in/
      yep the Prius production car will have the side mount port

      (I don't know what the hell is with splashing cute little appliques all over an electric car is about, but oh well)



      Previous conversion models did have the rear port (not toyota production) (yes cal cars will still convert one for you)






      But the Toyota Prius plug in that's coming.... you get 15 miles on a charge.... seems hardly worth the effort

      What am I missing here?
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      so basically the OP has no clue about anything and just posts out of his ass?

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      10-21-2011 10:16 AM #162
      One thing I am curious about is plug-standardization. Has the industry gotten around to standardizing a single design for charging electric cars?
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    13. 10-21-2011 11:08 AM #163
      someone posted details earlier in the thread: yes.
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      10-21-2011 11:28 AM #164
      Quote Originally Posted by audifans View Post
      But the Toyota Prius plug in that's coming.... you get 15 miles on a charge.... seems hardly worth the effort

      What am I missing here?
      What are you missing? The fact that it's $10,000 cheaper than a Chevy Volt and gets 50mpg on gas while the Volt gets 30mpg? They're different cars for different driver profiles. Which one is better depends on how you intend to use the car over it's lifetime.

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      10-21-2011 12:31 PM #165
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      What are you missing? The fact that it's $10,000 cheaper than a Chevy Volt and gets 50mpg on gas while the Volt gets 30mpg? They're different cars for different driver profiles. Which one is better depends on how you intend to use the car over it's lifetime.
      Fair enough... A bit more accurately on the price yields Plug in Prius at 32,000 and Volt at 39,145

      so it's 7,000 dollar spread instead of 10,000

      and the more equivalent advanced Plug In Prius (with things like Cruise control and seat trim) (same range as basic) is at 39,500 or roughly the same as Volt

      Quote Originally Posted by Blackohio
      Built in boost gauge in the dash. One of my friends at the time saw that turbo was on theoretical empty and asked if we needed to stop and get more turbo. I gave it gas and he was like wait, its full now. Had to quickly explain the process.
      Quote Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post
      so basically the OP has no clue about anything and just posts out of his ass?

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      10-21-2011 12:41 PM #166
      Striving for a little more accuracy

      Volt gas only mode is rated at 37 mpg not 30


      Under that last scenario (the gas-only scenario), the 37 mpg figure results from 35 mpg city, 40 mpg highway.


      (and as you said EPA rating for Prius of 50)
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      10-21-2011 01:41 PM #167
      I'll just add a little extra to the gas mode mileage for volt.

      New York Times writer beat the hell out of the EPA rating on gas only

      Having delivered the energy-use equivalent of about 112 miles per gallon in battery mode, the Volt continued to have admirable economy with the gas-driven generator supplying the electricity: 44 m.p.g. over all, whipping the E.P.A.’s estimate of 35 city and 40 highway. With its 9.3-gallon gas capacity — premium fuel required — you can exceed 300 miles per tank, in addition to the initial E.V. miles.
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      10-21-2011 04:31 PM #168
      Remote heating or cooling using the grid prior to driving is a nice touch

      A navigation system is standard, and there are clever smartphone and OnStar applications to remotely manage charging and check the charge level; owners can also cool or heat the car remotely, using grid electricity rather than draining the battery.
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      10-21-2011 05:15 PM #169
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      The article states they put them in in 2006. There weren't any EV's back then! The GM EV1 had already been discontinued and the Leaf & Volt weren't out yet. Sheer bad luck / bad timing on their part to remove them just as the Leaf and Volt are hitting homes all over CA and AZ especially, and eventually nationwide.
      I think it's perfect timing. now they won't have to provide free electricity to all these new cars flooding the market. When EV was a curiosity, they didn't mind. now it would actually cost them.

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      10-21-2011 06:39 PM #170
      I guess the stores can figure out what they want to do based on their customers.

      I can't imagine that 3 or 4 charging stations would be all that expensive to operate over 10 hour day.

      What would that amount to...

      5 to 10 dollars even if they were all in use constantly?

      Someone want to check my math and tell me if I'm all that far off?

      I'm thinking like 10 cents or so per KWhour.

      I'm well aware that California has a 29 cent KWhour daytime cost and perhaps that's one reason many of the Costco installations got pulled (california stores)

      (of course, they could easily turn the charging stations into ChargePoint stations but maybe they'll just wait for some enterprising ChargePoint folks to step in)

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      10-21-2011 07:09 PM #171
      Quote Originally Posted by jeff james View Post
      The Smart Phone deal that comes with the Volt is pretty cool

      I will say that the Volt's app is much better than the app the LEAF uses. Much much much better. LEAF only shows state of charge, time to recharge, and allows you to start and stop the charge, and start and stop the HVAC system.

      Here's my demo's CarWings account:



      Did 40 miles in a Volt today. I don't usually have any issue getting >40 miles per charge, but this morning I was in a freaking hurry, so I was on it to get to where I needed to go. Driving it harder than I usually drive an ICE car I got 33 miles on the battery.

      I've seen people complain that they can't get 40 miles on a charge, and they really need to pay attention to what they're doing. It's not hard in the least bit.
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      10-21-2011 09:43 PM #172
      Quote Originally Posted by Rukh View Post
      One thing I am curious about is plug-standardization. Has the industry gotten around to standardizing a single design for charging electric cars?
      some of the approaches to plugs and not standardized yet





      Chademo and Level 2 charging sockets in a Nissan Leaf.





      The Smart ED's SAE J1772 socket, which accommodates Level 1 and Level 2 charging.




      The Chevrolet Volt is designed to the SAE J1772 standard.

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      10-21-2011 10:13 PM #173
      LEAF also runs the J1772 for level 1-2 charging, as it's the SAE standard. Chademo port is for level three DC fast charging, and there is no standard. SAE wants a concentric DC fast charge port to surround the J1772, which makes sense.
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      10-21-2011 10:21 PM #174
      correct. I meant to give this followup as to the proposed standard





      A J1772 plug for the Nissan Leaf.


      followup:




      The proposed SAE Combo Coupler for Level 2 and D.C. fast charging. The revised J1772 prototype will not be ready until this fall, and the final version is unlikely to be ready until late 2012.

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      saw a demo this summer. I didin't get to drive it but I found it to be quite small inside and for its size quite useless. Cool concept, someone has to do it first. I just felt it could have been better. I just hope new batterys get smaller to open up the interior on these new hybrid cars.

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