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    Thread: My Build Thread | 1.8 | PAG VBAND KIT | 5857 DBB |

    1. Member Rac_337's Avatar
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      10-16-2011 10:43 PM #1
      Hey all

      Figured I would start my own build thread.

      Heres the specs:

      1.8L 06A AWP
      5857 DBB, V-Band
      Pag Parts bottom mount v-band kit
      Pag Parts 550 FMIC
      Wiseco 9.0:1 81MM pistons
      Brute Connecting rods
      AEB Head, Completely Rebuild.
      ARP everything
      Eurodyne Maestro 7
      Siemens 870cc injectors
      Calico Coated Rod & Main bearings
      All new seals, gaskets, etc.

      Waiting on a few things:
      SEM Intake
      80MM TB
      CM FX400 clutch
      Wavetrac Diff
      42DD 3" Cat Back

      Gonna do the head (Full Ferrara...Intake + Exhaust valves, retainers, springs) after I get it running.

      Pretty stoked about it! Cant wait until next spring when its done considering its been a year in the making

      Thanks go to:

      Arnold @ Pag for getting my kit and putting up with me asking a lot of questions lol
      Clay @ CTS for the Diff, when it comes..
      Issam for the random bits
      IE for more random stuff
      Various people on here for answering questions!









      Full set of pics on flickr:

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/6159611...7627911334714/

      Last edited by Rac_337; 12-10-2011 at 08:59 PM.

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      10-17-2011 05:13 AM #2
      For how much are you aiming for?
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      10-17-2011 07:17 AM #3
      lookin good

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      10-17-2011 11:04 AM #4
      the pics. good luck with your build.

    5. 10-17-2011 12:05 PM #5
      Jelly on that Vband setup!
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      10-17-2011 07:18 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by HidRo View Post
      For how much are you aiming for?
      somewhere between low to high 400's lol. Honestly, 400 at first is my target goal. Once I sort out the SEM mani, clutch and headwork i'll push on up from there.
      Last edited by Rac_337; 10-17-2011 at 07:20 PM.

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      10-18-2011 03:23 AM #7
      Nice!

      Keep up the good work. It's looking good so far
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      10-19-2011 06:27 PM #8
      Thanks!

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      10-19-2011 06:41 PM #9
      looks cool definitely subscribing keep adding new pictures

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      10-19-2011 06:57 PM #10
      Good start!

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      10-19-2011 07:45 PM #11
      You will hit your number. I hit 405 whp with a stock smallport intake mani, stock tb, and a 300hp atp intercooler core. If i were to guess the intake manifold and intercooler would help increase that to the 500's. The turbo is fantastic as well.
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub Dan-O View Post
      I am in the process of going FrankenTurbo and pretty much got my dick slapped because I wasn't thinking BT.

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      10-19-2011 08:34 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by IAmTheNacho View Post
      You will hit your number. I hit 405 whp with a stock smallport intake mani, stock tb, and a 300hp atp intercooler core. If i were to guess the intake manifold and intercooler would help increase that to the 500's. The turbo is fantastic as well.
      yeah im hoping so. I dont see why it shouldn't.

      did you use the restrict or on your turbo? or just the one that came with it?

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      10-19-2011 10:40 PM #13
      No the turbo has one built in. I havent had any smoke issues and have been running it about 16 months now.
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub Dan-O View Post
      I am in the process of going FrankenTurbo and pretty much got my dick slapped because I wasn't thinking BT.

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      10-20-2011 01:21 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by IAmTheNacho View Post
      No the turbo has one built in. I havent had any smoke issues and have been running it about 16 months now.
      Same, except one year. I thin that only happens with the journal bearing one if you don't set it up right.

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      10-20-2011 08:57 PM #16
      Sweet. I'll run it without unless something happens then. Wasn't sure what to do with that.

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      12-10-2011 08:56 PM #17
      Couple new items that I just picked up.

      SEM 80MM Large port
      80MM Hemi

      Cheers to Marco @ SEM for the mani, and Issam @ INA for the TB!





      Bosch 044 mounted and wired now...hopefully the spot I have it mounted will fly.





      Just waiting on two more shipments of goods

      Ordered maestro, some arp head bolts after messing up my new oem ones (oops!) and gasket, BFI stage two mounts all from Clay @ CTS

      Waiting for 3" exhaust from 42DD as well.

      Received my Podi gauge mount and AEM wideband, which is all mounted and wired

      Still deciding on a clutch. leaning towards a FX400...still looking though. And still deciding if I want to do IE cams now, or later...

      its hard to resist temptation sometimes...especially for the price IE is offering them at.

      Pretty pumped to get everything back together and start it...even with the 2 feet of snow that will probably fall shortly. lol

      Last edited by Rac_337; 12-10-2011 at 09:10 PM.

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      12-10-2011 09:04 PM #18
      Oh, and this came too:



      02M Wavetrac.

      Last edited by Rac_337; 12-10-2011 at 09:06 PM.

    19. 12-10-2011 09:04 PM #19
      get a foam isolator around this

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      12-10-2011 09:07 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by ForVWLife View Post
      get a foam isolator around this

      For sure. I have one on the way. Just seeing how it fits.

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      12-10-2011 09:23 PM #21
      that setup looks awesome
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      12-10-2011 09:28 PM #22
      Damn its looking good Can't wait to get my SEM on this winter, had it all summer and didn't put it on due to resolving some issues with my car.... Are you going to tune the car yourself with Maestro??? FWIW I love my CM FX400
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      12-10-2011 09:43 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      that setup looks awesome
      Thanks! Now if only my bay were as clean as all the new kit haha. spring cleaning is coming I suppose.

      Quote Originally Posted by One-Eight GTI View Post
      Damn its looking good Can't wait to get my SEM on this winter, had it all summer and didn't put it on due to resolving some issues with my car.... Are you going to tune the car yourself with Maestro??? FWIW I love my CM FX400
      Thanks man. The plan is to break it in & dial it in on the dyno as best as I can yes... Once I get some cams in it ideally i'd like to take it out to Ottawa and see if Chris can improve on what I can produce. I've dialed in race bikes and big blocks, but its quite far off from tuning this lol. We'll see how it goes.

      And on the FX400...i've heard nothing but great things. most likely going to go this route.
      Last edited by Rac_337; 12-10-2011 at 09:49 PM.

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      12-10-2011 09:50 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Rac_337 View Post
      Thanks man. The plan is to break it in & dial it in on the dyno as best as I can yes... Once I get some cams in it, ideally... i'd like to take it out to Ottawa and see if Chris can improve on what I can produce. I've dialed in race bikes and big blocks, but its quite far off from tuning this lol. We'll see how it goes.

      And on the FX400...i've heard nothing but great things. most likely going to go this route.
      Good idea taking it to Ottawa and having Chris tune it for you once you get the cams in... Wish Chris was located closer to northern MN
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      12-11-2011 09:25 PM #25
      if you get the fx400 go with the 240mm disk option.....its stronger with the same pedal feel
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      12-11-2011 09:52 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by tojr1088 View Post
      if you get the fx400 go with the 240mm disk option.....its stronger with the same pedal feel
      Wouldn't he have to, seeing as he has a 337, he needs the 240MN clutch.


      Dude, i'm watching this thread, i'm going to be doing a 5857 build from pag soon myself. Interested seeing your results

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      12-11-2011 11:04 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by 87vr6 View Post
      Wouldn't he have to, seeing as he has a 337, he needs the 240MN clutch.


      Dude, i'm watching this thread, i'm going to be doing a 5857 build from pag soon myself. Interested seeing your results
      ahhh i stand corrected.....im an audi guy lol never had an 02m. but yea awesome awesome clutch for sure.
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      12-12-2011 07:45 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by 87vr6 View Post

      Dude, i'm watching this thread, i'm going to be doing a 5857 build from pag soon myself. Interested seeing your results
      should have it done by the early new year.

      watch this space

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rac_337 View Post
      should have it done by the early new year.

      watch this space
      Oh I am. Mine should be solid and running by Sept for H2Oi

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      12-13-2011 09:44 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by 87vr6 View Post
      Oh I am. Mine should be solid and running by Sept for H2Oi
      Nice. What software do you plan on using?

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      12-14-2011 01:40 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Rac_337 View Post
      Nice. What software do you plan on using?
      I'm hoping UNI, but I want to run IE cams, so they need to update their file soon...

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      12-14-2011 11:10 AM #32
      I spoke to UNI a couple weeks ago regarding the IE cams. And they said they would be able to tune for them.
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      is that a 3in inlet on the turbo or a 4in?

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      12-14-2011 12:30 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by speed51133! View Post
      is that a 3in inlet on the turbo or a 4in?
      5857 with the ported S housing has a 4" inlet.

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      even better! the intake pipe is 3in though it seems, is there a reducer?

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