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      10-19-2011 08:36 AM #51
      you can't use a "add on" pulley and belt off the alt. it will kill the bearing. you can run a longer belt and wrap the alt if you want.

      we would LOVE to build a setup. i have a motor here and we can make it all. just need the customer to do it for
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      10-19-2011 10:41 AM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by nothing-leaves-stock View Post
      you can't use a "add on" pulley and belt off the alt. it will kill the bearing. you can run a longer belt and wrap the alt if you want.

      we would LOVE to build a setup. i have a motor here and we can make it all. just need the customer to do it for
      What you are looking to charge is not in my budget right now. So I will have to fumble my way through this.

      Could you take a picture of the motor you have there so I can see more clearly the pulley system, to help with routing?

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      10-19-2011 10:45 AM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by mldouthi View Post
      What you are looking to charge is not in my budget right now. So I will have to fumble my way through this.

      Could you take a picture of the motor you have there so I can see more clearly the pulley system, to help with routing?
      Remember there are two different pulley setups on these motors.
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      10-19-2011 10:47 AM #54
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea....5L-basic-info

      you'll find pictures of the pulley set up on this thread.
      Last edited by pennsydubbin; 10-19-2011 at 10:51 AM.

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      10-19-2011 10:54 AM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by pennsydubbin View Post
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea....5L-basic-info

      you'll find pictures of the pulley set up on this thread.


      i still need to put more info there.

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      10-19-2011 11:51 AM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by pennsydubbin View Post
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea....5L-basic-info

      you'll find pictures of the pulley set up on this thread.


      Thank you

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      10-19-2011 12:04 PM #57
      Basically just need to replicate this with one more cylinder!


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      10-19-2011 12:05 PM #58
      Here is a better 3d view of what I am thinking about.

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      10-19-2011 12:08 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      Basically just need to replicate this with one more cylinder!


      No i/c??

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      10-19-2011 12:22 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by mldouthi View Post
      No i/c??
      No! and this kit made an added 150hp on a D16. My thinking is chill the incoming air before the MAF or make a 2" spacer between the charger and intake manifold for DEI's Cryo2, OR a 8" barrel awic before the Maf and the crank vent bungs at the tip before the air gets chilled, and then a fabbed up cold air intake
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      10-19-2011 12:39 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      No! and this kit made an added 150hp on a D16. My thinking is chill the incoming air before the MAF or make a 2" spacer between the charger and intake manifold for DEI's Cryo2, OR a 8" barrel awic before the Maf and the crank vent bungs at the tip before the air gets chilled, and then a fabbed up cold air intake
      Is that an M45?


      The rest of that sounds good. What would be the reason for moving the crank vent?

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      10-19-2011 12:51 PM #62
      By rotating the assembly I have above I can get the overall dims down to 11.88 x 11.88

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      10-19-2011 12:56 PM #63
      Thats what I was getting at with the Hyundai Genesis s/c video I posted on the last page. They are making 430whp running a non i/c'd Eaton setup. The stage 2 just adds watermeth, and smaller pulley, to do 500whp, and stage 3 is rods/pistons, trans, for 500+whp, still no intercooling
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      10-19-2011 01:00 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by mldouthi View Post
      Is that an M45?


      The rest of that sounds good. What would be the reason for moving the crank vent?
      Yea I believe it is a M45. Well you have that piece to your intake between the MAF and throttle body with the bungs for ventilation, so I figured just keep that before the chilled air. Probably wont make too much of a difference where its at. But Id buy the bungs from 42dd and weld them to the end lip of the barrel Awic to clip those hoses too. Everything will be powder coated wrinkle black except the IM which will be polished.
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      10-19-2011 01:06 PM #65
      Any thoughs on the pulley setup?

      Im going crazy, Ive been looking at this belt routing my whole lunch break.

      I know NLS said that running a dual pulley would kill the bearing, but if you added a bearing or put a nicer one in then that should theoretially work, right? That is if the bearing is in the pulley itself and not the alt.

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      10-19-2011 01:09 PM #66
      no, any offset force on the alt will cause issue. forget about adding another pulley onto the alt pulley. also, my friends company make a AWIC core that fits on that honda sc setup. it's 1'' thick spacer that bolts inbetween the sc and manifold. cools the air by 35* so far on the 1st design
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      10-19-2011 01:13 PM #67
      That would actually work pretty well, what are those running?
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      10-19-2011 01:23 PM #68
      ghetto picture.

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      10-19-2011 01:34 PM #69
      I really wanna see someone set this up and get it running. Supercharger FTW if you ask me!

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      10-19-2011 01:37 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by nothing-leaves-stock View Post
      ghetto picture.

      Thank you!

      will that give enough contact area on the alt to keep it from slipping?


      Could you also let me know who I need to contact to get the other 2 dims of that IC? or if you know them. Thanks. Sounds similar to the zzperformance one, but theres is for a M90 so its wide and long.

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      10-19-2011 01:49 PM #71
      its a 2 sec drawing. if you set up the pulleys right, then yes.
      the "new" pulley thats added will need to be on a mount fron the other oem one. space it right to wrap the sc and alt and your good.

      i can find out the info on the AWIC plates from my guy( same guy that does the SAI plates for us) the setup is amazing looking and will bolt right under the honda kit sc. i'll have to find out what sc they use for sure.
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      10-19-2011 02:10 PM #72
      Ya hell, if we get this done, c2 can produce this into a kit, since the M62 is readily available, and offer this spacer AWIC as NLS stage 2 upgrade
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      10-19-2011 02:26 PM #73
      i'll make it all if people step up.

      bolt on manifold, awic and belt setup with C2 fueling and software
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      10-19-2011 02:35 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by nothing-leaves-stock View Post
      i'll make it all if people step up.

      bolt on manifold, awic and belt setup with C2 fueling and software
      time frame and cost for project? i not one of those that promise to buy something and the r&d is done and whoops ... no money. i understand well made products cost money, im just looking for a ball park

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      10-19-2011 02:39 PM #75
      depends on what you want.
      eaton? rotrex? fmic? AWIC? etc. could be 4500-8000
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