How to build a relatively inexpensive, reliable, 'powerful' 2.0 8v.

[911_fan]

276.

142 with the 288.

On stock valves.

Oh, what I could have done with a BVH and MS&S.

[vacuumnoise]

276.

142 with the 288.

On stock valves.

Oh, what I could have done with a BVH and MS&S.

would love for you to get back into the 8v game...

[911_fan]

Might happen, but not to the scale you're probably hoping for. My daughter will be driving soon, and the plans are her buying an 8v Jetta. Simply for the fact that I know so much about these cars and can fix just about everything cuffed, blind folded, and in a coma.

[Quintin@USRT]

we both should get back in the 8v game. of course then i'd shoot for 600whp

[vacuumnoise]

Might happen, but not to the scale you're probably hoping for. My daughter will be driving soon, and the plans are her buying an 8v Jetta. Simply for the fact that I know so much about these cars and can fix just about everything cuffed, blind folded, and in a coma.

nice, are you just gonna make it gas-efficient, max mpg?

[vacuumnoise]

we both should get back in the 8v game. of course then i'd shoot for 600whp

Quintin, the USRT LRIM doesn't come with a new throttle cable, does it?

[911_fan]

Yep. At 30+ mpg average, a tank of 87oct should last her a couple weeks. Wanna go OBDI for two reasons, the German head, and I can go Megasquirt.

[Quintin@USRT]

Quintin, the USRT LRIM doesn't come with a new throttle cable, does it?

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[99MK3VDUB]

YOu guys give some great info....

I was going to go TT268 with the "Big Valve" and HD Springs upgrade and porting/polishing and all that...Head has been stripped, cleaned/blasted and flowed/pressure tested now ready for the grind ....I am certainly going with the TT276 +4* and maybe a snail down the road just so I can say I'VE DONE IT on an 8V .....

Question tho...C2 or TT chip?? I hear many say good and probably just as many saying bad about C2... I wanted to do M.S. eventually but its an OBDII head and I am probably going to DD this car then build a VRT I've had in my dreams a time or 2...

Thanks for the encouragement..you gentlemen are ALL doing GREAT things in the DUB WORLD !!!!

[Hurt]

YOu guys give some great info....

I was going to go TT268 with the "Big Valve" and HD Springs upgrade and porting/polishing and all that...Head has been stripped, cleaned/blasted and flowed/pressure tested now ready for the grind ....I am certainly going with the TT276 +4* and maybe a snail down the road just so I can say I'VE DONE IT on an 8V .....

Question tho...C2 or TT chip?? I hear many say good and probably just as many saying bad about C2... I wanted to do M.S. eventually but its an OBDII head and I am probably going to DD this car then build a VRT I've had in my dreams a time or 2...

Thanks for the encouragement..you gentlemen are ALL doing GREAT things in the DUB WORLD !!!!

C2 is fine, there aren't many problems with them anymore. You'll make more power with C2 than you would with TT, probably, since C2's tunes are the most recent.

[99MK3VDUB]

C2 is fine, there aren't many problems with them anymore. You'll make more power with C2 than you would with TT, probably, since C2's tunes are the most recent.

Thanks for the info...i was kind of leaning that direction

[Prof315]

Yep. At 30+ mpg average, a tank of 87oct should last her a couple weeks. Wanna go OBDI for two reasons, the German head, and I can go Megasquirt.

Well just let me know if you want to go MS, I'd be glad to hook you up with a sweet deal and everything I've learned so far.

[vacuumnoise]

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Im certainly not knocking your product as it is a great piece of machinery... but at $700 and then having to buy a VR throttle cable for another $50 plus shipping, it would be more appealing if it was a packaged kit, so it would be a straight bolt on: $700 for IM and throttle cable... and if the consumer didnt want the throttle cable it could be deducted.

I think if it was marketed more as "intake manifold conversion KIT" it would be far more appetizing for the $700 (plus shipping price)...

[911_fan]

$700....lmao.

[911_fan]

Well just let me know if you want to go MS, I'd be glad to hook you up with a sweet deal and everything I've learned so far.

Actually had every intention to if it came to it. Fwiw, shoot me a message with some more info, ya?

[vacuumnoise]

YOu guys give some great info....

I was going to go TT268 with the "Big Valve" and HD Springs upgrade and porting/polishing and all that...Head has been stripped, cleaned/blasted and flowed/pressure tested now ready for the grind ....I am certainly going with the TT276 +4* and maybe a snail down the road just so I can say I'VE DONE IT on an 8V .....

Question tho...C2 or TT chip?? I hear many say good and probably just as many saying bad about C2... I wanted to do M.S. eventually but its an OBDII head and I am probably going to DD this car then build a VRT I've had in my dreams a time or 2...

Thanks for the encouragement..you gentlemen are ALL doing GREAT things in the DUB WORLD !!!!

absolutely, this thread is full of a wealth of information

[vacuumnoise]

$700....lmao.

honestly I would have no issue spending the $700 if it came with everything to do the swap, I'll even buy the new IM gasket! but I use my car everyday (pizza delivery ~ no joke!) and I need to do work on my car on my one day off... and be back on the road with no issues.

and Lets be honest those 7 bills are a good amount of cash.

[99MK3VDUB]

absolutely, this thread is full of a wealth of information

No doubt about that...I wish I would have gotten on VORTEX years before I did when I started in the DUB WORLD...Probably woulda saved me a few headaches !!!

[Hurt]

Anyone have any real dyno's that compare a car with a stock airbox compared to a intake like a Neuspeed P-FLO or a Eurosport coolflo?

[vacuumnoise]

Anyone have any real dyno's that compare a car with a stock airbox compared to a intake like a Neuspeed P-FLO or a Eurosport coolflo?

i think there was one on eurotuner when they did the 266 cam and chip dynos... google that..

[Hurt]

i think there was one on eurotuner when they did the 266 cam and chip dynos... google that..

I have. Problem is, every aftermarket company is going to say their intake increases HP. According to TT, the stock airbox is better, but I don't think this is a 2.0 dyno..


In my 94, I have a Neuspeed top airbox set up to my SRI, very easy to make. Everything looks factory in the 94, I love the OEM+ look. Thinking of getting my SRI wrinklecoated black.

[vacuumnoise]

^

hmm IDK, i cant find the Eurotuner dyno, I think they dynoed the Eurosport intake? and it made like 5whp I recall; I wonder if they were doing that dyno with the hood open

[Quintin@USRT]

Im certainly not knocking your product as it is a great piece of machinery... but at $700 and then having to buy a VR throttle cable for another $50 plus shipping, it would be more appealing if it was a packaged kit, so it would be a straight bolt on: $700 for IM and throttle cable... and if the consumer didnt want the throttle cable it could be deducted.

I think if it was marketed more as "intake manifold conversion KIT" it would be far more appetizing for the $700 (plus shipping price)...

i'm sure we can work that package for you.

[vacuumnoise]

i'm sure we can work that package for you.

[Quintin@USRT]

lemme know when ready

[Hurt]

^

hmm IDK, i cant find the Eurotuner dyno, I think they dynoed the Eurosport intake? and it made like 5whp I recall; I wonder if they were doing that dyno with the hood open

90% of dyno's have a industrial fan infront of the car to simulate airflow at a high speed. I'd imagine that makes certain "cold air intakes" perform better. Especially with the hood open. I tend to keep the stock airbox if I can on most of my cars. From what I've seen MK3's have pretty good airboxes. The whole "crappy flowing manifold" thing sort of makes that hard with a MK3. My GT has a conical air filter, because there's no real way for me to run a stock airbox because the TB is on the right side of the engine bay. My GL has a SRI, and I decided to take a Neuspeed S/C airbox and make that work, and I use a plain paper filter with it.. I don't think a cone on the end of the MAF or piece of pipe would make more power unless I put it infront of the headlight and removed the lense, ram-air style.

[President Lincoln]

I'd like to build an aba but I can't evven get mine to run.

[vacuumnoise]

this morning I decided...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...)-for-your-VR6

also if anyone wants to buy this thing outright I'd probably do it, shoot me an offer thru PM

[Prof315]

I'd like to build an aba but I can't evven get mine to run.

Why not?

[President Lincoln]

Why not?

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...to-my-91-coupe

[Hurt]

this morning I decided to do a vr6 swap...


also if anyone wants to buy this thing outright I'd probably do it, shoot me an offer thru PM

Why bother selling it? The car isn't rotting, which is a big plus. You probably won't find a cleaner VR6.

If you want a VR so bad, just buy a swap for ~1000 bucks. You could sell your motor/ecu/trans/subframes/suspension/etc to someone with an A2 looking for a swap, and that'd pay for most of the VR6 swap parts or wrecked VR6 swap car.

I have plenty of VR6 parts in my garage, I'm 99% sure I can piece together a complete OBD2 swap with the parts in there, along with a set of TT 264/260 VR cams and a few chips.

PS: Please don't advertise your FS ad in this thread, it isn't meant for that.

- Colm

[vacuumnoise]

Why bother selling it? The car isn't rotting, which is a big plus. You probably won't find a cleaner VR6.

If you want a VR so bad, just buy a swap for ~1000 bucks. You could sell your motor/ecu/trans/subframes/suspension/etc to someone with an A2 looking for a swap, and that'd pay for most of the VR6 swap parts or wrecked VR6 swap car.

I have plenty of VR6 parts in my garage, I'm 99% sure I can piece together a complete OBD2 swap with the parts in there, along with a set of TT 264/260 VR cams and a few chips.

PS: Please don't advertise your FS ad in this thread, it isn't meant for that.

- Colm

\\good point

but i just figured id let my fellow 8v brothers know in case they want an 8v thats in good condition...

VR swap, eh seems more trouble than its worth...

maybe if someone sells me a cheap worked 8v head, I'll keep the 8v

[Hurt]

\\good point

but i just figured id let my fellow 8v brothers know in case they want an 8v thats in good condition...

VR swap, eh seems more trouble than its worth...

maybe if someone sells me a cheap worked 8v head, I'll keep the 8v

VR6 swaps take like a day. Less, if you work fast. I've had people drop off 8v's on saturday morning and drive off in 12v's on sunday afternoon.

You want power, and you're looking into spending money on an SRI for 700 bucks..

You should just go Neuspeed S/C. You can find a good one in the classifieds for 1500. Sometimes even less. I bought mine new for 2500. But hey, it's worth it. You'll go from 110whp(what you have now, probably) to around 145whp with the 2.6 pulley. Neuspeed has dynos showing 135whp @ 6200 RPM on a stock S/C kit. So hey, maybe you'd make even a little more, like 150whp.

My dd GL probably has around 125whp, and it's not too bad. But I have a SRI.

Before that, my coupe had 160whp on a TT tune.

Then my GT with 135whp with an 02A.

Now, I'm at ~250whp+ with my GT, and loving every second of it. Boost is a very, very good option for the 8v.

[AJmustDIE]

Boost is really the only option for the 8v.

FTFY.

[Quintin@USRT]

FTFY.

ATTDT (aint that the d@mn truth)