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      07-31-2012 05:25 PM #596
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      I was happy with the power. Just got two that said they were rebuilt but weren't. There are others who've said they ran them for over 30k miles no problem. The guy from the one that seized said he never installed it and that P.O. he bought from said it was rebuilt with less than 5k miles on it. I tracked P.O. down and he said that he bought it from Azevedo Motorsports and that before he bought it from them, they told him it was rebuilt with around 5k on it. He said he ran it for 4 months more than 5 years ago with no problems, so it easily had at least double the mileage.

      I do know the guy I bought it from bought it in 2010 from the guy who ran it. Shortly after buying he was trying to sell it on here. I won it on ebay in 2011. Unfortunately I didn't dig up all this history until after I purchased it, otherwise I probably would have went with a bbm kit I was bidding on at same time. I only bought the second kit to have spare parts for the first.

      I'll give it one more shot with a known fresh rebuild, assuming the spindle and bearing housing is still good. If it blows up again then I will give up and consider it a $1k paper weight or sell to someone brave enough to run it.
      Everyone says SOMETHING has been rebuilt BY THE PO.
      Tracking down a decent MK4 is hard. Wife's MK6 was in for service today, she had to use my GT all day to run errands. I'm hoping I can find a MK4 soon.. If I can't find an upper trim model 2.0, I'll buy a base model 2.0 and then find a wrecked 337 or GLI and take the interior out of that.

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      08-01-2012 08:52 PM #597
      I was wondering if anyone has ran a TT 266* and an Autotech 270* in the same car with the same mods. They're similar yet different. They do give similar power gains, but which is the best?
      Specs:

      TT:
      @ .050"
      duration - 223*
      Lift - .448"
      Lobe Center - 112°

      Autotech:
      @ .050"
      Duration - 224*
      Lift - 0.449"
      Lobe Center - 112°

      Both very very similar. I've had both cams, and they're pretty much identical IMO.

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      08-02-2012 05:37 AM #598
      Quote Originally Posted by Hurt View Post
      I was wondering if anyone has ran a TT 266* and an Autotech 270* in the same car with the same mods. They're similar yet different. They do give similar power gains, but which is the best?
      Specs:

      TT:
      @ .050"
      duration - 223*
      Lift - .448"
      Lobe Center - 112°

      Autotech:
      @ .050"
      Duration - 224*
      Lift - 0.449"
      Lobe Center - 112°

      Both very very similar. I've had both cams, and they're pretty much identical IMO.
      The best one is the one you can buy the cheapest
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    4. 08-02-2012 09:19 AM #599
      Quote Originally Posted by Prof315 View Post
      The best one is the one you can buy the cheapest
      exactly.

      only difference you'll see would be on a dyno sheet.

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      08-03-2012 08:36 AM #600
      Quote Originally Posted by 911_fan View Post
      exactly.

      only difference you'll see would be on a dyno sheet.


      The Autotech is usually cheaper, and it's more aggressive by 1 whole point! lol

      I used the sale and bought a 270* for my corrado's build. If it'll fit, my SRI is going in there too.

      MK2 coupe is currently undergoing a VR6 swap.. Running into issues with wiring. It had an OBD2-software ABA in it - I got a OBD1 VR harness. Fail..

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      08-04-2012 10:03 PM #601
      Corrado finally starts, after a 14 hour day spent in the garage trying to figure out why it wouldn't start. 2.0 with a decent cam and a SRI = sounds amazing.

      My Lysholm is too loud to hear the induction noise. I miss the growl of the SRI everyday..

      Anyone else love the sound of a SRI? I think the SRI'd ABA's induction noise is one of the nicest, right up there with a good Honda B18c5 or something.

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      08-04-2012 10:26 PM #602
      Would be better with pictures.

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      08-05-2012 12:18 AM #603
      Quote Originally Posted by AJmustDIE View Post
      Would be better with pictures.

      Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
      Wife isn't too happy with me because I "live in the garage". Couldn't document the engine swap, I really wanted to get it done and I didn't have time for taking pics.

      I am documenting the Suspension/interior/exterior build, probably, as I really fell in love with this Corrado. Trying to find a company that sells smoked/red tails. Tired of the factory amber/red.

      All the corrado guys said the 02a trans in the corrado wouldn't be too good mated to the ABA, but I think it's fine, and I've used 02a's in most of my 8v cars. They aren't much different than a CHE 020, really..
      0-60 is around 7 seconds flat if I really slam the gears, and the engine mods are just:
      270* autotech cam
      Autotech HD valve springs
      3 angle valve job, head decked/milled 020" (mild)
      90mm Head Gasket
      ARP headstuds (had an extra set in my shop.. why not?)
      GIAC chip (obd1 ecu..)
      USRT SRI
      TT DP
      Custom 2.5" exhaust with a vibrant resonator and vibrant muffler.
      Air filter stuck on the end of the MAF until I can make a real CAI
      ..That's about it. Only took it out for maybe an hour, want to do the suspension (koni red shocks with FK or weitec 60/40 springs) before I start dding it.. stock suspension is really shot, it's never been replaced before.

      ~Colm

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      08-05-2012 06:57 AM #604
      The ATA code O2A in a G60 is indeed very close to a CHE in terms of gearing. But the stouter gears eat more power than an O20 that's all.
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      08-05-2012 01:07 PM #605
      Quote Originally Posted by Hurt View Post
      Anyone else love the sound of a SRI? I think the SRI'd ABA's induction noise is one of the nicest, right up there with a good Honda B18c5 or something.
      What an absolutely horrific thing to say!

    11. 08-05-2012 01:22 PM #606
      ABA SRI's are sex...oh, sorry, got a little carried away. In honor of my vasectomy friday, and my current perciset/Stella Artois high, I will contribute with some SRI love.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1OHI...feature=relmfu

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      08-05-2012 02:08 PM #607
      Quote Originally Posted by 911_fan View Post
      In honor of my vasectomy friday,
      wait.......what?


      Man's birth control dunno if i could do it! thought bout it but damn...

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      08-05-2012 02:13 PM #608
      Quote Originally Posted by 911_fan View Post
      ABA SRI's are sex...oh, sorry, got a little carried away. In honor of my vasectomy friday, and my current perciset/Stella Artois high, I will contribute with some SRI love.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1OHI...feature=relmfu
      Vasectomy?!

      I've been trying to find someone who runs ITB's on a ABA but I can't find anyone. I bet they'd sound really good, too.

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      08-05-2012 02:16 PM #609
      Here's one that sounds amazing with a SRI:




    15. 08-05-2012 03:19 PM #610
      Quote Originally Posted by Hurt View Post
      Vasectomy?!

      I've been trying to find someone who runs ITB's on a ABA but I can't find anyone. I bet they'd sound really good, too.
      Yea, this baby achine is DONE. I want a Porsche, so Im done making kids.

      Here is Mendra's (WOLFgti) 20/20 swap in ITBs.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbxMZeSV-Ao

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      08-05-2012 03:36 PM #611
      Where's the pics?

    17. 08-05-2012 03:47 PM #612
      Quote Originally Posted by The*Fall*Guy View Post
      Where's the pics?
      Of what, my baseball size sack, or my new baby? lmao

      FWIW, just had another boy 2 Fridays ago. Named him Cooper (Coupe') to continue the car theme. Jack, Cam, and Coupe'.

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      08-05-2012 04:43 PM #613


      I'd like to nominate vr sri induction noise
      Last edited by root beer; 08-05-2012 at 04:45 PM.

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      weaksauce

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      08-06-2012 11:16 AM #615
      lol vr6 lol
      aba>vr6 all day err day




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      08-06-2012 02:38 PM #616
      Quote Originally Posted by 911_fan View Post
      Of what, my baseball size sack, or my new baby? lmao

      FWIW, just had another boy 2 Fridays ago. Named him Cooper (Coupe') to continue the car theme. Jack, Cam, and Coupe'.
      If you have a baseball sized sack; you might wanna get that checked out buddy. Elephantiasis is no laughing matter

      Congratulations on the baby though. Im old, and have been done for quite some time. My oldest graduated high school this year.

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      08-06-2012 03:50 PM #617
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post


      I'd like to nominate vr sri induction noise
      I love my ABA but VR's sound the best!

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      08-06-2012 08:01 PM #618
      Quote Originally Posted by vacuumnoise View Post
      I love my ABA but VR's sound the best!
      VR6's exhausts do sound awesome. I think an ABA with a SRI intake sounds better than the intake noise of a modified VR6 - My 97 Golf is a full bolt on VR6 swap and it sounds good with my 3" MBS system with a Vibrant resonator (really quiets the VR down!) and a Flowmaster muffler, but.. it's only the exhaust that sounds good, in reality the engine sounds like poop IMO.

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      08-07-2012 08:15 PM #619
      Some kid with a Jetta III GL with 2 DTM-style eBay fartcans on it along with an EVO VIII wing, no front lip, spray bomb paint job (ORANGE) and ricer fog lights pulled into a parking lot where me and a friend were hanging out.. Told me my "GT is slow, GTs are only 2.0s!" and my "PS belt is loose". Whining S/C =/= loose belt lol. He also said his engine is a "VW dual cam" and that they are only made them for Jetta III's, not Jettas. We asked him to elaborate.. "Autotechnology sells a 260 and 256 cam set. I beat Preludes and Hondas with it all day everyday.. Wanna race?"

      Granted he looked about 16.
      Sigh..

      What is the world coming to?

      Gonna try to take some pictures of my GT and get some new pull videos up.. I am making way for better traction now with the new rims (16x8 RSs).. I want to run 225/50's or 225/45's or something.

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      08-09-2012 07:06 PM #620
      Quote Originally Posted by Hurt View Post
      Some kid with a Jetta III GL with 2 DTM-style eBay fartcans on it along with an EVO VIII wing, no front lip, spray bomb paint job (ORANGE) and ricer fog lights pulled into a parking lot where me and a friend were hanging out.. Told me my "GT is slow, GTs are only 2.0s!" and my "PS belt is loose". Whining S/C =/= loose belt lol. He also said his engine is a "VW dual cam" and that they are only made them for Jetta III's, not Jettas. We asked him to elaborate.. "Autotechnology sells a 260 and 256 cam set. I beat Preludes and Hondas with it all day everyday.. Wanna race?"

      Granted he looked about 16.
      Sigh..

      What is the world coming to?

      Gonna try to take some pictures of my GT and get some new pull videos up.. I am making way for better traction now with the new rims (16x8 RSs).. I want to run 225/50's or 225/45's or something.
      hahaha

      yeh bring the on

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      08-10-2012 04:54 PM #621
      Trying to work a 2 step into my ignition set up. Launch control would really help me with my horrible launches.

      Anyone ever wire up a 2step that actually works well?

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      08-10-2012 05:00 PM #622
      You don't need no launch control, just a little practice. Launch with your clutch, not the gas pedal. I can get detailed in pm if you want. It definitely doesn't help a bad technique.

      I did a 1.97 60' on kumhos, but i'll never try to launch on street tires again.

      But....wire in an MSD box, or go standalone. The wot boxes seem so worthless.

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      08-10-2012 05:21 PM #623
      Quote Originally Posted by root beer View Post
      You don't need no launch control, just a little practice. Launch with your clutch, not the gas pedal. I can get detailed in pm if you want. It definitely doesn't help a bad technique.

      I did a 1.97 60' on kumhos, but i'll never try to launch on street tires again.

      But....wire in an MSD box, or go standalone. The wot boxes seem so worthless.
      I always mess the launch up. Always. I hold the clutch in @ 2000 RPM, and let go of the clutch and floor the gas, but I always end up slipping the clutch to like 3000RPM or more and just spinning instead of getting a tiny bit of wheel hop and then I grab and go. It's a pain. Fine tuning my suspension at my friends instruction helped (koni yellows [1f 5r], Neuspeed race springs), and I got wider tires (225/45/16's), so it's capable of launching pretty well. I'm just bad at launching consistently.
      I'd definitely appreciate any advice you can give me!

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      08-11-2012 08:38 PM #624
      Anyone know the "real" reason why the ABA's redline is 6400 on most 93-95 OBD1 cars, and OBD2 cars are at 6200? I'm thinking maybe it's because of the oil squirters, the better flowing head and the slightly more aggressive cam.. I'm sure I'm probably wrong. But.. If anyone knows, let me know. I really like how the bubble cluster looks.

      It's a shame I can't find anyone to make me custom gauge faces. I want a 140 MPH speedo going up by 10's, like the MK2.. and the tach has to go up to 8, since my redline is 7000, and it'll go to around 7500 if I let it.
      I wish I could get my coupe's old cluster (switched to a VR cluster) to work in my GT. That'd be ideal, except for the top speed.
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    30. 08-11-2012 09:08 PM #625
      There is no other reason other than different versions of Motronic. Motor makes no power after 4500 rpms regardless of year.

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      08-12-2012 07:14 AM #626
      Quote Originally Posted by 911_fan View Post
      There is no other reason other than different versions of Motronic. Motor makes no power after 4500 rpms regardless of year.
      good point
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      08-12-2012 03:29 PM #627
      Quote Originally Posted by 911_fan View Post
      There is no other reason other than different versions of Motronic. Motor makes no power after 4500 rpms regardless of year.
      Are you sure? I know about the no power part, but it's odd for a manufacturer to just change the cluster redline randomly. It seems a bit odd, even if they changed to OBD2. It's a little weird.

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      08-12-2012 04:01 PM #628
      Quote Originally Posted by Hurt View Post
      Are you sure? I know about the no power part, but it's odd for a manufacturer to just change the cluster redline randomly. It seems a bit odd, even if they changed to OBD2. It's a little weird.
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    34. 08-13-2012 06:59 AM #629
      Quote Originally Posted by Hurt View Post
      Are you sure? I know about the no power part, but it's odd for a manufacturer to just change the cluster redline randomly. It seems a bit odd, even if they changed to OBD2. It's a little weird.
      Where the red paint starts on the gauge face is irrelevant considering the rev limiter kicks in waaaaay before the needle would ever get there.

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      08-13-2012 12:17 PM #630
      Quote Originally Posted by 911_fan View Post
      Where the red paint starts on the gauge face is irrelevant considering the rev limiter kicks in waaaaay before the needle would ever get there.
      I suppose. MK3 rev limits are weird. Some stock cars I've had have a limiter as soon as it hits the red (6200) and some will go way past that.. It's mostly the early cars that go past 6200, 93-95 and some 96's. It's such an odd thing.

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