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#36
Not to bash your work, it is technically proficient, but you're basically taking someone else's art, a photograph, and copying it in a different medium. It's a good exercise, but I would encourage you to explore observational drawing of real life objects and coming up with new and interesting compositions or ideas.![]()
Do not be persecuted by the pompous fedora, balanced by the equilibrium, fortified by the
government's inability to eradicate, or foreshadow—taken from the Hebrew word: foreskin
#38
Most automotive artists work from photos. I personally know quite a few of them as I was once on the art selection committee for the Meadow Brook Concours. All of the AFAS artists I've met work from photos, so I don't understand your point. Replicating a photograph is a very difficult thing to pull off, so it's not mere copying.
Here's a painting that was made from a photograph I took. The artist borrowed the work for a show of AFAS artists and they placed it in the show's most prominent spot. I don't think that drawing from photographs is frowned upon in the automotive fine art world.
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#40
can you explain your process?
after seeing the photo and then your drawing i can't help but think it's traced.
the attention to detail is remarkable, i would love to know how you do it and how long it takes you
#41
We're about to find out. I've commissioned our new friend from Poland to do a black and white drawing of a color photograph for me. He's agreed to send me progress pictures. Maybe he'll post a narrative with them.
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#42
I wil try to show you the whole process on Barrys car drawing.
Starting from Wednesday.
#43
Do not be persecuted by the pompous fedora, balanced by the equilibrium, fortified by the
government's inability to eradicate, or foreshadow—taken from the Hebrew word: foreskin
#45
Not only is it common, it's the norm. It has been the norm for hundreds of years. The great Dutch Master, Vermeer, used Optic Obscurahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_obscurato produce what some would call the finest works of the era. I don't see how this would change the value of the hand work.
Here's a perfect example. I own the original of Dan McCrary's "Exhausted", that was clearly done from a photograph. That's why the reflections are so accurate. This is a watercolor, BTW.
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#46
At that time, camera obscura was a tool for artists to create a more realistic painting. Now, thanks to the invention of the camera, creating realistic artwork is just a matter of pushing a button and developing film or transferring files. The artistic element is not gone though, as the photographer has to study light, color, composition to create their work.
Many will use a photo as a reference for something more abstract or a different piece altogether.
If you are copying someone else's photo, you are not doing any of the creative parts of creating artwork, instead taking the place of Kinko's. Yes, it's a laborious task to do by hand and not everyone has the patience or skill with a pencil.
Do not be persecuted by the pompous fedora, balanced by the equilibrium, fortified by the
government's inability to eradicate, or foreshadow—taken from the Hebrew word: foreskin
#47
I'll speculate that in the case of a classic car photo, what is gained from a manual reproduction is a romantic and nostalgic look and feel that is consistent with the subject matter. It also allows the artist to enhance that feel with abstraction. Faces are indistinct, unnecessary details are removed. It changes from a photo of a specific event, "your car" and "your wife," to a timeless photo of "a car" and "a woman." It could be anyone at any point in time. Furthermore, if you took the photo and commissioned a manual reproduction, the piece has added meaning to you. All valid and good things.![]()
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Do not be persecuted by the pompous fedora, balanced by the equilibrium, fortified by the
government's inability to eradicate, or foreshadow—taken from the Hebrew word: foreskin
#48
Those are nice man... what size paper do you mostly use? and are those pencil drawings or paint?
rated .:R
#49
Wow man you are seriously talented! I love your workThat RS5... OMG
Unf*ckwithable
#50
Great response. You obviously understand that art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
Here's another pencil drawing that we have. The detail and composition is so fine that it looks like a photograph. This artist, too, uses photos of reality and combines them for his final layout. This is so far beyond the threshold of copying that I truly consider it art.
http://www.bjurstromstudio.com/
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#51
that's pretty cool.
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#52
Thank you guys for all the good words
And thanks Barry
I can just say that the only way( for me) to do a good detailed car drawing is to use a good high resolution images. I wont seat in the street in front of ferrari for the whole day to catch some nice reflections
There is no fun for me to draw apples and bottles in my own made composition.
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#54
Do you have access to having giclees done of your work? They can be sold inexpensively and still give you a nice return on your efforts. I only collect original artwork, but many prefer prints.
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#55
I love all cars, I just happen to own a few pieces of german crap at the moment.
#57
Hi guys
Just added a new drawing
Porsche 917 from 24h Le Mans rece
http://przemus.deviantart.com/
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#60
Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. A normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.
#61
I can't wait. This is the picture that he will be turning into a black and white drawing for me. For those that have seen the other pieces that I've commissioned, my wife has always been in the finished picture. It's my way of immortalizing her. I've done that in a number of medium, including a life-cast of her head and her hands. Those freaked her mother out, but it's really no different than all the portraits of wives you see in museums that were commissioned by men of means.
This photo is very special to me because I nearly lost her to cancer last year about this time. This picture has special significance to me because she was back on her feet, fit, healthy and getting back into the classic car world we share and immensely enjoy. It's special in another way because my wife and I physically built the house in the background. One of these days I'll post the build on that.
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#62
This is the one by Etienne. It's all CG. It lacks the richness of a pencil drawing or painting. I like it, but I don't love it. It's highly detailed, but lacks that final finesse that hand work provides.
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#66
Drawing from a photo (without tracing) isn't easy.
These are spectacular.
I wish I had kept drawing because of you.
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#67
Thanks guys not very modest but I'm very happy with the final result
#69
Amazing work! When it comes to drawing cars, using reference photos is usually the only option. Odds are the car you want to draw is hard to find parked outside where you can observe it, and the owner might not want you sitting in his garage for a couple days. Even when the photo and the finished drawing look very similar, there were still dozens of decisions and compromises the artist did to recreate and interpret what was in the photo. Even if the photo was straight up traced, you can't trace a shade gradient, it takes a lot of talent to get it to look right.
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#70
Where can i give you money for some of your fantastic work?