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    Thread: Lamborghini Aventador vs twin-turbocharged Ferrari 458

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      10-25-2011 05:21 AM #3
      Thats one quick Fezza! I percieve it to be a lot lighter than the Lambo, although whether that is true or not I don't know...
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      10-25-2011 05:32 AM #4
      Anyone else remember back when getting that kind of power out of anything was a real feat of tuning skill?

    5. 10-25-2011 05:51 AM #5
      The sound of the turbo spool up in the Ferarri sounded siiiiiiiick. LOL.
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      10-25-2011 06:17 AM #6
      And can we try that again from a dig? Bet the race looks a lot less spectacular when the lambo pulls out and then has to be run down.
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      10-25-2011 08:26 AM #7
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      10-25-2011 08:43 AM #8
      so private.
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      10-25-2011 09:29 AM #11
      Logic dictates that the 458 would win solely for the fact that AWD weighs a car down at higher speeds.

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      10-25-2011 09:41 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      Logic dictates that the 458 would win solely for the fact that AWD weighs a car down at higher speeds.


      What? No, the Ferrari wins because it has two turbos bolted on to it. Stock versus stock the Lambo would crush it, AWD or not.

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      10-25-2011 09:53 AM #13
      458 1/4: 10.8sec w/ 134mph trap

      Aventador 1/4: 10.5sec (could not find trap speed times, but I'd imagine that it's not much different from the 458.)

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      10-25-2011 10:21 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      458 1/4: 10.8sec w/ 134mph trap

      Aventador 1/4: 10.5sec (could not find trap speed times, but I'd imagine that it's not much different from the 458.)
      I don't think a stock 458 is that quick...

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      10-25-2011 11:00 AM #15
      Thanks for replacing the video Killathrilla. Can't imagine how fast the bi-turbo Aventador will be.

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      10-25-2011 11:03 AM #16
      In for bi-turbo Aventador. Oooooh my.
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      10-25-2011 11:04 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      Fair enough, 11.0 @ 131.

      But what I'm getting at here is the trap speed. I doubt the Aventador will trap higher than ~134.

    18. 10-25-2011 11:26 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post


      What? No, the Ferrari wins because it has two turbos bolted on to it. Stock versus stock the Lambo would crush it, AWD or not.


      What? 700hp turbo = 700hp NA. Assuming the 458 is really only 700hp.

      At that speed, where that power is spread out makes a bigger difference. 700hp on two wheels pushing is faster than 700hp spread out in all 4 wheels. There's also gearing to consider...

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      10-25-2011 11:29 AM #19
      What's the power:weight for both of these?

      I assume that the 458 has much advantage.

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      10-25-2011 11:32 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by MFactor View Post


      What? 700hp turbo = 700hp NA. Assuming the 458 is really only 700hp.

      At that speed, where that power is spread out makes a bigger difference. 700hp on two wheels pushing is faster than 700hp spread out in all 4 wheels. There's also gearing to consider...
      But 700whp does not equal 700bhp.

    21. 10-25-2011 11:35 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by MFactor View Post


      What? 700hp turbo = 700hp NA. Assuming the 458 is really only 700hp.

      At that speed, where that power is spread out makes a bigger difference. 700hp on two wheels pushing is faster than 700hp spread out in all 4 wheels. There's also gearing to consider...
      what you are forgetting is WHP vs CHP.

      the ferrari is making 700 whp. the lambo is making about 560 AWHP. thats a huge difference at roll on speeds. when you consider that the ferrari also got a boost in torque with its new power and should be significantly lighter then you should easily deduce the outcome ferrari > lambo.

      id like to see this redone when the aventador gets its kit installed. im thinking the outcome would be much different.

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      10-25-2011 11:35 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by MFactor View Post


      What? 700hp turbo = 700hp NA. Assuming the 458 is really only 700hp.

      At that speed, where that power is spread out makes a bigger difference. 700hp on two wheels pushing is faster than 700hp spread out in all 4 wheels. There's also gearing to consider...


      The cars have different horsepower, different torque, different weight, different aero, and different gearing.

      Claiming the main difference in performance is AWD is just plain ridiculous.

    23. 10-25-2011 11:49 AM #23
      and also after relooking at the video it seems the ferrari driver was a little better. either the na car wasnt in its power band (being na it shouldnt really matter but we all know supercars have crap for torque stock) when they launched or all that displacement spools the hell outta the turbos in that ferrari. either way, two awesome cars.

      listen to the revs the ferrari has during the first run. hes up there in the rpm band to keep those snails spooled. as soon as he hits it hes making big boost.

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      10-25-2011 11:52 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by bwell01 View Post
      and also after relooking at the video it seems the ferrari driver was a little better. either the na car wasnt in its power band (being na it shouldnt really matter but we all know supercars have crap for torque stock) when they launched or all that displacement spools the hell outta the turbos in that ferrari. either way, two awesome cars.

      listen to the revs the ferrari has during the first run. hes up there in the rpm band to keep those snails spooled. as soon as he hits it hes making big boost.
      I did not know this. Please tell me more.

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      10-25-2011 11:56 AM #25
      In the for the Aventador twin turbo systems.
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