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    Thread: The moment you've all been waiting for...iLevel

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      11-07-2011 10:06 AM #26
      Here are a few shots of what's sitting on my desk






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      11-07-2011 12:27 PM #27
      I should have kept saving for e-level instead of buying auto pilot!

      Anyone interested in buying one of my arms and a leg?!

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      11-07-2011 01:24 PM #28
      Does this work with Switchspeed? Only reason I ask is that I have considered the eLevel upgrade but the recent talk about it having a mind of its own makes me nervous especially with a what $800 upgrade?

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      11-07-2011 02:01 PM #29
      I know the initial concept was intended to work only with the e-Level. But this system is still in its infancy so it is possible that AccuAir would make it work with both.
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      11-07-2011 02:19 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Will@BagRiders View Post
      I know the initial concept was intended to work only with the e-Level. But this system is still in its infancy so it is possible that AccuAir would make it work with both.
      so it could work based on air pressure you meant ?
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    6. 11-07-2011 02:25 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by kilimats View Post
      so it could work based on air pressure you meant ?
      Highly unlikely. Currently Accuair has no provisions for pressure based height systems. From what I understand this will only work with the E-Level wireless receiver. This leads me to beleive that they only intend on using the I-Level system in conjunction with E-Level. "Analog" Switchspeed users, like myself, will probably have to upgrade to the E-Level system. Merely speculation, very excited to see the finished product.
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    7. 11-07-2011 02:29 PM #32
      Very cool.....i will be utilizing this system/technology on my next build.
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      11-07-2011 02:43 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Will@BagRiders View Post
      Here are a few shots of what's sitting on my desk


      Good stuff, BagRiders. Keep us updated

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      11-07-2011 03:40 PM #34
      Definitely in for later as more info is released. Probably no way I'm not going to pick this up.

    10. 11-07-2011 10:00 PM #35
      Wow! Definitely subscribed to this! Also curious if this will be compatible with Switchspeed mgmt.

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      11-08-2011 09:13 AM #36
      I cant wait to spoof this at shows and air up other peoples cars

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      11-08-2011 09:59 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Korfu View Post
      I cant wait to spoof this at shows and air up other peoples cars
      I'm presuming there will be encrypted communications between the application and the receiver. It would be a pretty huge oversight to allow somebody to easily control another persons system... especially when that person could be driving and end up losing control of their vehicle and seriously injure themselves and/or others.

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      11-08-2011 01:53 PM #38
      I am just curious how it will work out... I mean you are spending almost $2k alone on management plus this? It is totally rad but I hope it's not a $500 addition. I also really hope it works with my SwitchSpeed.

    14. 11-08-2011 02:03 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by arethirdytwo View Post
      I also really hope it works with my SwitchSpeed.
      Me too, but see my post on the last page.

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      So sick!

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      11-08-2011 02:25 PM #41
      I see what you mean on that, I did not assume they would offer a pressure based system. The fact is that the output signals from the controller have to be either the same or very similar. However I am sure the method of sending said signal is only available to elevel users, just like the remote. Smart thing would be to offer a receiver that plugs inline with the current USB plug so you could still hook up the wired controller but had the ability to pick up signals from the iPhone. Pipe dreams...

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      11-09-2011 11:25 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by erevlydeux View Post
      I'm presuming there will be encrypted communications between the application and the receiver. It would be a pretty huge oversight to allow somebody to easily control another persons system... especially when that person could be driving and end up losing control of their vehicle and seriously injure themselves and/or others.
      Who knows. To be honest I doubt it will be that well encrypted, in my experience comapnies tend to rush products to market with very little thought ofbsecurity. Take GM for instance it was found that most of the cars they made with BT ware easy to spoof into and u can enable the Mic in the car without the driver being aware. Lets hope security isn't an after thought on this product because as u said someone could bottom out ur suspension while in motion.

    18. 11-09-2011 11:48 AM #43
      Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that the key fob does not function when the ignition is on. This is in order to prevent inadvertent wireless airouts while in motion. I would imagine I-level would be the same way.

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      11-09-2011 11:58 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by PatientlyWaiting View Post
      Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that the key fob does not function when the ignition is on. This is in order to prevent inadvertent wireless airouts while in motion. I would imagine I-level would be the same way.
      iLevel may function that way... hopefully it functions that way. I'd still want to make sure I'm the only person that can control my car, though. Somebody could jack your **** up, put a ****ing spike or something under it, then lower it. Bam, now your car has a hole in the floor because some ******* decided to **** with it.

      Is that likely to happen? Probably not. Should the product be insecure enough for it to happen? Definitely not.

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      11-09-2011 12:10 PM #45
      Come on guys. Think about it. It's a bluetooth device.

      You have to enable discovery mode on it, pair the device to the phone, and input the pin to finalize the connection.

      To enable discovery mode would require physical access to to bluetooth module to enable said mode.

      Meaning no one is going to walk by your car and start measing with your ride height.

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      11-09-2011 01:05 PM #46
      I'm not worried about that. I'm just curious what they will use to control it. I am curious of aside from logos there is a difference between the switchspeed version and elevel. If not then they would be foolish to not allow integration for either systems. Who l know's.

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      11-09-2011 02:55 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by BetaOp9 View Post
      Come on guys. Think about it. It's a bluetooth device.

      You have to enable discovery mode on it, pair the device to the phone, and input the pin to finalize the connection.

      To enable discovery mode would require physical access to to bluetooth module to enable said mode.

      Meaning no one is going to walk by your car and start measing with your ride height.
      There's a big oversight here that one could potentially force a disassociation between controller and the receiver, and sniff the resulting pairing traffic, and crack the PIN.

      Is anybody going to do that while you're walking by? Yeah, totally doubt it. I just like the idea of longgggg passwords and heavy encryption.... especially when it comes to something that might deal with my car.

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      11-09-2011 03:04 PM #48
      Only major issue i can foresee is the bluetooth sucking out the Iphone battery.

      I did some test month ago comparing battery life with and without Bluetooth, it was a major difference, battery was near 10% at the end of the day with regular usage VS around 40% when disabled.
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      11-09-2011 05:54 PM #50
      If I ever do get switch speed (still undecided on switchspeed or avs 9 switch) I am just gonna do a simple 4 channel wireless remote to control it from the outside if I want. I don't own a iphone, nor a droid, just a phone that texts and talks, so no iphone air ride apps for me.

      BUT this is pretty sweet.

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