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    Thread: Tell me about: The Ford Focus SVT

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      11-07-2011 06:57 PM #1
      I've been seeing them priced fairly reasonably lately and was thinking it would be a nice car to downsize into from the S60R. I'd imagine the fun quotient would be higher as would the MPGs.

      What does one look for in these? Anything problematic across the entire range?

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      11-07-2011 07:01 PM #2
      Why would you want a car like this these days? They're so dated and scream "i'm mostly poor"

      You're a lawyer, it doesn't make sense for you to buy a cheapass semisport econohatch. You don't have to go all out 60k on yourself but jeez man, ****

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      11-07-2011 07:07 PM #3
      Because some people can see a $5000 vehicle that's is fun and think, "Hmm, that could be fun."

      OTOH, some people need $40,000 vehicles to make themselves feel relevant in today's society.
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      11-07-2011 07:08 PM #4
      They're fun cars. I think I need to replace my engine mounts? It's been pretty problem free over the 4 years I've owned it though.

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      11-07-2011 07:12 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      Why would you want a car like this these days? They're so dated and scream "i'm mostly poor"

      You're a lawyer, it doesn't make sense for you to buy a cheapass semisport econohatch. You don't have to go all out 60k on yourself but jeez man, ****
      Oh finance lounge....Just because you make money doesn't mean you need to spend money.

      The SVTs are nice.
      Off the top of my head, I think they had some issues with the transmission and CEL for cam sensors...
      I've always lusted after one with a JRSC.
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      11-07-2011 07:12 PM #6
      6 speed getrag not so reliable. Needs moar SVT Contour.

      The 05 regular focus with the 2.3L Duratec is pretty quick and responds to mods well. Better than the SVT 2L. Just really hard to find one with a manual.
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      11-07-2011 07:22 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by todras View Post
      6 speed getrag not so reliable. Needs moar SVT Contour.

      The 05 regular focus with the 2.3L Duratec is pretty quick and responds to mods well. Better than the SVT 2L. Just really hard to find one with a manual.
      CSVT still on the list... What's with the Getrag? I would be leaving it completely 100% stock (no power boost of any kind).
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      11-07-2011 07:22 PM #8
      I loved mine - the dealer was god awful - but the car overall was great (back in '03)

      That said, my clutch exploded and was replaced under warranty - later on, Ford issued a recall on the clutch...

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      11-07-2011 07:31 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      Why would you want a car like this these days?
      Probably because the SVT outhandles any sporty compact you can buy "these days."
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      11-07-2011 07:44 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by PassSedanGLX View Post
      Probably because the SVT outhandles any sporty compact you can buy "these days."
      And with only 170hp you'll be outhandling other cars in their rearview

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      11-07-2011 07:47 PM #11
      No obvious engine problems to worry about. Typical of early 2000s Ford, the interior is a bit low rent and the dashboard will crack under intense SoCal sun.

      But it's hella fun car to drive around town. Look for the later model with Euro appearance package.

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      11-07-2011 07:48 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      And with only 170hp you'll be outhandling other cars in their rearview
      Sounds like Fast and the Furious quote.

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      11-07-2011 07:50 PM #13
      My Russian friend Igor has one. I helped him find it. It doesn't idle too well and likes to eat alternators and idle control valves. However, handling and stopping in it is an absolute blast and we use it weekly to go get drunk in random Long Island pubs. He is an MD/PHD so i feel like somewhere there should be a Russian lawyer driving one to balance out the universe...

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      1. According to his super geeky log he averages 26.8mpg running premium.
      2. Clutch had to be replaced around 38K miles due to possible miss use by the PO.
      3. I had to put correct plugs in since most mechanics will just slap in some regular Focus plugs causing the car to have flat spots all over the powerband.
      4. AEM intake and Magnaflow cat back make it sound great without being overly obnoxious.
      5. 6 speed transmission is pretty smooth and fun IMHO.
      6. Car is mostly trouble free and holds pretty decent resale value now that they have bottomed out on the used market.
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      11-07-2011 07:55 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by EuroAtomic View Post
      . He is an MD/PHD so i feel like somewhere there should be a Russian lawyer driving one to balance out the universe...
      It will now be my duty to right the universe.
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      11-07-2011 08:07 PM #15
      Are you sure you're ok? Why would someone want to go from a S60R to a ford fucus in any trim level? Keep the R you'll be far happier in the long run
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      Quote Originally Posted by Vettes, Volvos and VWs View Post
      Keep the R you'll be far happier in the long run
      You obviously have no idea.
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      11-07-2011 08:12 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by mellbergVWfan View Post
      You obviously have no idea.
      I'm probably biased. But seriously more safety, refinement and luxury while still maintaining a sporty ride. Although I was never keen on newer Volvos.
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      11-07-2011 08:18 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Vettes, Volvos and VWs View Post
      I'm probably biased. But seriously more safety, refinement and luxury while still maintaining a sporty ride. Although I was never keen on newer Volvos.
      Vad's Volvo has none of those things.
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      Oh mellberg is cool, but his car certainly isn't helping that happen.

    19. 11-07-2011 08:21 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Vettes, Volvos and VWs View Post
      Are you sure you're ok? Why would someone want to go from a S60R to a ford fucus in any trim level? Keep the R you'll be far happier in the long run
      I think it's because the S60R gets 2 mpg and is slower than a Camry V-6

    20. 11-07-2011 08:29 PM #20
      Although cars are the worst investment, i recommend you spend at least 40 k on something right now

    21. 11-07-2011 08:50 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      They're so dated and scream "i'm mostly poor"
      You sir, are an as*hole.

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      11-07-2011 08:59 PM #22
      I too am in the market for one. Too bad finding one that isn't flogged or a "Pep BoyZ" special here in Connecticut has proved to be somewhat impossible. Great car though, too bad they only made something like 3000 of them

      Good luck in your search !

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      11-07-2011 09:02 PM #23
      I want to pick up a rear end total and make an SVT wagon out of it
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      11-07-2011 09:02 PM #24
      And now I know why I don't come to TCL anymore.

      I was in the market for one of these before I slummed it and went with a ZX3. It's pretty easy to find clean ones, just watch out for clutch/transmission issues. The clutch had a wonky dual-mass flywheel to smooth out vibrations but just kind of ate itself alive and broke over time, and the clutch master cylinder has a tendency to go out on all manual transmissioned Focuses.

      I've had my 2002 ZX3 for 5 years and 50,000 miles (~130k on the odometer) and it's needed tires, fluids (it's needed them for a while ) new front struts because I broke the springs after parking it for a couple months, an oil pan (midwest winter), and the clutch cylinder is starting to leak a bit. Parts are relatively cheap and in good supply too.

      Pretty dead nuts reliable vehicles...if you get a good one. Most of the kinks should have already shown themselves in pre-owned ones, so the risk, if any, is a bit lower than a couple years ago IMO.

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      11-07-2011 09:14 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by todras View Post
      6 speed getrag not so reliable. Needs moar SVT Contour.

      The 05 regular focus with the 2.3L Duratec is pretty quick and responds to mods well. Better than the SVT 2L. Just really hard to find one with a manual.
      This /\

      but, I thought the 2.3 duratec was only in 04? I had an 05 with the 2.0 Duratec and loved it. I always wished I had the 2.3 so I could add this



      Back on topic, I think they are nice cars. Drive one around and see how you like it. I see them as a pretty good package for a pretty good price



      stole those from another SVT focus thread.

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      11-07-2011 09:19 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by TOT View Post
      but, I thought the 2.3 duratec was only in 04? I had an 05 with the 2.0 Duratec and loved it. I always wished I had the 2.3 so I could add this
      Wiki says 2.3 was optional from 2003–2007 in the US Ford Focus sedan. Guess u can't get it in the hatch zx3. That stinks. Edmunds says it was only available in the ST ZX4's. Never a big fan of the sedans.
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      11-07-2011 09:36 PM #27
      http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false

      or hop a plane and steal this one:

      http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false

      That one is almost too good to be true.
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      11-07-2011 09:59 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by gdown View Post
      http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false

      or hop a plane and steal this one:

      http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false

      That one is almost too good to be true.

      Saw the first one earlier today.

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      11-07-2011 10:08 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      And with only 170hp you'll be outhandling other cars in their rearview
      You own a GTI and a Fit. I'd think you'd be the first to appreciate a driver's car that is down on power compared to the competition.
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      11-07-2011 10:12 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Tiny4cyl View Post
      Why would you want a car like this these days? They're so dated and scream "i'm mostly poor"

      You're a lawyer, it doesn't make sense for you to buy a cheapass semisport econohatch. You don't have to go all out 60k on yourself but jeez man, ****
      You own a fit and a GTI.....

      The fit is more boring than the focus, yaris, cavalier, etc, and the GTI has been dated ever since the 4th generation.
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      11-07-2011 10:14 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by todras View Post
      Wiki says 2.3 was optional from 2003–2007 in the US Ford Focus sedan. Guess u can't get it in the hatch zx3. That stinks. Edmunds says it was only available in the ST ZX4's. Never a big fan of the sedans.
      In 2003 and 2004 you could get the 2.3L with a manual in the ZX3 hatch. I am sure of this because I have owned one since new.

      For the first year they were only offered in the four "green states" - California, New York, Massachusetts and Vermont, along with some cross-border states through special order. Then in 2004 they expanded availability to most or all of the country, but beginning in 2005 you could no longer get it in the hatch.

      Most of what has been said about the SVT so far is spot on. Like any used car, if you can find one that was properly cared for you will be better off in the long run. I wouldn't fear too much though - the cars are easy to work on and a lot of fun to drive.

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      11-07-2011 10:15 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      CSVT still on the list... What's with the Getrag? I would be leaving it completely 100% stock (no power boost of any kind).
      tranny eats clutches, even stock, mine was bought with 32K miles, OEM clutch was dead by 42K, replaced with SPEC stage II clutch and lightened flywheel, traded the car in and ran into the kid that bought it he needed to replace that clutch for some reason

      fun car, loved mine, interior is hard plastic and dated but not terrible, loved the exterior styling and it was a blast to drive, had the 5 door which was more rare, here is my old one on the tail of the dragon

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    33. 11-07-2011 10:15 PM #33
      The regular focus can be fitted with the suspension from the SVT for about 300$ plus labor, and thats OEM parts, not trash. I got a normal ZX5 and the regular engine, real stout and the transmission is a bit more durable too. Sure, a focus isn't a Camry but its the most fun FWD car I've ever driven by a long shot!

      I'd love to own an SVT myself!

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      11-07-2011 10:32 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by GoVdubSPEEDGo View Post
      tranny eats clutches, even stock, mine was bought with 32K miles, OEM clutch was dead by 42K, replaced with SPEC stage II clutch and lightened flywheel, traded the car in and ran into the kid that bought it he needed to replace that clutch for some reason

      fun car, loved mine, interior is hard plastic and dated but not terrible, loved the exterior styling and it was a blast to drive, had the 5 door which was more rare, here is my old one on the tail of the dragon

      That's exactly how I'd want it, with the Euro rear. How hard is that to install?
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