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    Thread: United Motorsport strut mounts?

    1. Member Adam's .:R32's Avatar
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      03-17-2012 12:35 PM #141
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      03-17-2012 01:29 PM #142
      Quote Originally Posted by rajuncajun37 View Post
      HIT the drag strip last night, got invited to a ROAD Course. Looking for auto-x and my shop insist on me doing a TRACK DAY. WITW next mouth....think I need these $HiTz
      Rajun, with the use your car gets, you could probably benefit from something adjustable...
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      03-17-2012 01:36 PM #143
      You talking about adjustable camber plates? That's gonna be METAL on METAL right?
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      03-17-2012 03:54 PM #144
      Right. And you are talking about drag, road, auto x, and track racing.

      I daily mine. Its really not such a big deal like people like to make out.

      So, its hardly something to worry about. The benefits far outweigh the disadvantages for anyone with performance interests.
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      03-17-2012 04:06 PM #145
      you want me to run something like this?



      who makes the best?
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      03-17-2012 04:26 PM #146
      Just get the UM. Camber plates r a bit harsh for a daily or often driven car



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      03-17-2012 04:34 PM #147
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam's .:R32 View Post
      Just get the UM. Camber plates r a bit harsh for a daily or often driven car
      Do you speak from personal experience? I have close on 70,000km on my camber plates, so, respectfully, i think you are wrong. And, the whole point is that whilst there is nothing wrong with UM ones as a replacement for oem at a reasonable price, for cajun im suggesting some adjustability.

      Quote Originally Posted by rajuncajun37 View Post
      you want me to run something like this?
      who makes the best?
      The simple choice is either H2Sport which adjust camber and castor together.

      Or, at more money, GroundControl which adjust camber & castor independantly.

      Both are well proven solutions here on the tex over many years.
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      03-17-2012 04:57 PM #148
      I ran ground controls on my mk4 gli 1.8T and the vibration was too much for me. UM seems to be best solution without really have no give at all. But do what u think that's my experience.



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      03-17-2012 05:42 PM #149
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      Do you speak from personal experience? I have close on 70,000km on my camber plates, so, respectfully, i think you are wrong.


      Um, your point would be apples and oranges, if the roads you daily are worse than ours.

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      03-17-2012 05:54 PM #150
      Our roads here in PA are so so bad camber plates daily would not work tried on my mk4 gti many years ago for a week just wasnt happening.

      And i am a fan of harsh car mods lol . Solid motor mounts awesome, straight pipe exhaust daily on the turbo R i love it.
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      03-17-2012 05:55 PM #151
      Quote Originally Posted by Adam's .:R32 View Post
      I ran ground controls on my mk4 gli 1.8T and the vibration was too much for me. UM seems to be best solution without really have no give at all. But do what u think that's my experience.
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      Vibration? Plainly something was wrong if you had vibration.

      UM might be a good solution if you are looking for something non adjustable. My post was to cajun, that something adjustable could benefit the way he uses his car.

      Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post
      jmh2002
      Do you speak from personal experience? I have close on 70,000km on my camber plates, so, respectfully, i think you are wrong.


      Um, your point would be apples and oranges, if the roads you daily are worse than ours.
      Oh, not you again... Another one to miss the point altogether.
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      03-17-2012 05:57 PM #152
      And, before this derails entirely...

      Quote Originally Posted by jmh2002 View Post
      My post was to cajun, that something adjustable could benefit the way he uses his car.
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      03-17-2012 06:01 PM #153
      Anyway I'm a happy UM user that's all I'm saying.
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    14. 03-17-2012 09:26 PM #154
      Gents.

      There really is no need for any arguing or "aggressive discussion" or finger pointing here. Please lets keep this thread for discussion/feedback of our mounts

      We came up with these mounts as a direct OE replacement for a reasonable price. They are aimed at the majority market that DO NOT require any kind of adjust-ability. Our specification was to cure the collapsing issue that ALL OE mounts(VW AUDI SEAT or SKODA, or indeed any mount that is an OE mount passed off as someone elses') suffer when harsher/stiffer suspension is fitted. These mounts also offer a more direct and responsive feel to the steering, they will also reduce tyre/tire wear.

      Quote Originally Posted by Adam's .:R32 View Post
      UM I see money here. Maximize it!
      All anyone has to do is email me, my email is in my signature: Matt@unitedmotorsport.co.uk

      The ONLY remaining set of the latest batch is Jeff's personal set which he is willing to give up for sale. The next batch will hopefully be ready for sale in ~10 days

      Quote Originally Posted by Adam's .:R32 View Post
      I'll stay outta this argument

      Peace out ✌
      No need to go anywhere, your opinion is valid here, as you actually have a set of our mounts.

      Quote Originally Posted by Adam's .:R32 View Post
      I don't have vibration issues at all
      How would you describe any extra noise or vibration compared to stock mounts on your roads?

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      03-17-2012 11:23 PM #155
      Awesome!
      I just ordered a pair.
      Thanks for sharing!

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      03-17-2012 11:31 PM #156
      Glad they have a channel for you guys. Mine seem to be doing there job time will b a better judge but I'm happy to not have to worry about mounts breaking down and I still have no extra vibration!



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      03-18-2012 12:41 AM #157
      listen, I need info on everything we have discussed. The roads here are not TOO bad but I plan on living in Louisiana by next year. Could be a problem. I'll still consider them, especially for the right price.

      I've considered these UM mounts and I'm very interested.

      I've considered the OEM mounts if it's an easy job to replace each year and I do it myself. Easy install might warrant me buying OEM again.


      I've also considered the Polo Strut bushing and bearings, looks like you can lower the car a little more with the Polo bushings. I probably won't go with these cause going ANY LOWER could cause me problems. Problems with the alignment, problems with the oil pan and problems with the handling.

      I'm gonna order something by monday. I think either UM or OEM strut bushings. Thanks for the input, thanks for the advice. The camber plates are NOT out of the question either.

      THANKS all !
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      03-18-2012 03:55 AM #158
      To be clear, my original post was meant to be short (it was 1 line only) and aimed directly at cajun (he was quoted).

      It was not a post against the UM mounts, which I appear to be a valid solution if you dont require any adjustability.

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      03-18-2012 05:52 PM #159
      Quote Originally Posted by jmh2002 View Post
      Oh, not you again... Another one to miss the point altogether.
      Dude, your comment is purely BIASED and WRONG.

      "ALL" front camber plates are harshers than OEM, PERIOD!
      Even the kids off the short bus would feel the difference.
      Seriously, are you dense or something?!

      Back to point UM.

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      03-18-2012 06:22 PM #160
      Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post
      "ALL" front camber plates are harshers than OEM, PERIOD!
      Dude! You are absolutely right, and if you could read you would find that I never claimed they were not
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      03-18-2012 06:49 PM #161
      let me explain a little more

      my alignment is set at the following:
      Front Camber -1.2
      Rear Camber -1.5/-1.6

      Front Toe 1/16 Toe Out
      Rear Toe 1/32 Toe In


      I can achieve -1.4 up front if needed and I can get stupid in the rear thanks to GruvenParts. As long as I can achieve -1 in the front I'll probably be happy. The PSS9's are a few turns from rock bottom in the front.
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      03-18-2012 07:05 PM #162
      More camber up front is going to give you more grip, for example, on the dragon, especially since you tend to run high performance tires (or you did anyway).

      But since you also drag race (less camber for straight line grip), and are thinking about some auto-x and road course, the ability to switch to different settings could prove advantageous.

      Yes, there will be more NVH than oem mounts. More than the UM mounts as well? Probably, but it might be closer since they seem quite firm.

      But anyway, a lot here on the tex run low profile tires, big exhaust (or flapper open), windows down, big turbos, and i see race seats and roll cages as well, just to give some examples. Most people love the .:R because its raw. So, you are not going to die with a set of camber plates, its all relative.

      Plus, just like the UM mounts (because they are much firmer) your suspension will work better because no energy is being dispersed into the mount - the coilover will react more directly.


      I dont really want to jack the UM thread anymore, since Im not trying to post against their products.

      for any company that keeps bringing out new parts for our cars which are now 2 generations behind (but still the best!)
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      03-19-2012 02:17 AM #163
      So i have a Q for you guys. I am planning on running GC camber plates. Do they replace the trut mount or just the silver cap on the top o the strut mount? If not then i may order a set of these mounts.

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      03-19-2012 06:13 AM #164
      Quote Originally Posted by rajuncajun37 View Post
      you want me to run something like this?



      who makes the best?
      These are MKV yah?
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      03-19-2012 06:28 AM #165
      Quote Originally Posted by BOUDAH View Post
      So i have a Q for you guys. I am planning on running GC camber plates. Do they replace the trut mount or just the silver cap on the top o the strut mount? If not then i may order a set of these mounts.
      They replace everything. You dont need both.
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      03-19-2012 06:54 AM #166
      Quote Originally Posted by jmh2002 View Post
      They replace everything. You dont need both.
      ooo thats gonna produce some noise Thanks dude. That saves me on some $$

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      03-21-2012 04:42 PM #168
      Quote Originally Posted by vwsteve19 View Post
      Ordered mine from this guy

      Will do a full write-up once received and installed.

      Any specific strut BEARING you guys recommend to pair with these? Does anybody know if the INA ones offered by 034 are better/worse/same compared to OEM?

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      03-21-2012 05:18 PM #169
      Quote Originally Posted by .:R 3 2 ONE View Post
      Any specific strut BEARING you guys recommend to pair with these? Does anybody know if the INA ones offered by 034 are better/worse/same compared to OEM?

      http://www.034motorsport.com/oec.php...=Strut+Bearing
      I was planning on using my oem bearings, I don't believe they are bad just the mounts are worn out. Those you linked look identical to the oem bearings.

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      03-21-2012 05:43 PM #170
      Quote Originally Posted by vwsteve19 View Post
      I was planning on using my oem bearings, I don't believe they are bad just the mounts are worn out. Those you linked look identical to the oem bearings.
      Get new oem bearings if ur doing coils and these mounts. I suggest not using the aluminum spacer if your doing coils as well



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      03-24-2012 12:06 AM #171
      I used new stock strut bearings when i installed mine. After a few hundred miles on these mounts they feel the same and have not shown any wear. Where i live the roads are crap and stock mounts deflect and wear within a month or so. So far i am quite happy the mounts!
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      03-26-2012 12:32 AM #172
      last I heard these mounts were 1 to 2 weeks out. When will they be available?
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      03-26-2012 03:11 AM #173
      Just ordered the UM mounts.



      They do cost a pretty penny but I wanted them because I won't have to swap them out in 40,000 miles. Pulling the suspension out for strut bushings will be a headache. Plus, I got to get the alignment fixed too. Even if these are stiff I still got them for their longevity.

      I also purchased the WITW 2012 shirt.

      Now all I need is the UM software.
      maybe, maybe I'll get the software. Could you guys post a graph of your dyno pulls with the UM software?
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      03-26-2012 12:42 PM #174
      just ordered these from Matt in the UK

      cannot wait to get them installed and take the R32 for a long drive up some winding roads.

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      04-01-2012 05:05 AM #175
      I'm looking at OEM bushings,
      Powerflex Bushings,
      Defcon bushings,
      Spherical Ball bearing bushings
      and Darlin Defcon DD bushings
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