Ongoing DIY: Tuning Bosch ME7.5 for 1.8t

[createddeleted]

It's a major bummer that for defeating the immo, you have to desolder the ST95040 chip in order to read the memory and edit that...

Otherwise I'm still reading up on this on ECUconnections.com to learn to adapt my ecu on my one...

But I'll try that later with a less important ecu..

No, you don't have to de-solder

[vtraudt]

I know, off topic...
What software you to use for data logging with Win7 32bit?
VAGcom to slow. ECUx gives me weired data (recently logged 2.7T, but some channels missing, some data looking not right, don't know what units it shows, etc.)

[vtraudt]

And if anyone was wondering what I'm running:
- PTE5857 billet 4" antisurge inlet .62a/r w/log mani
- 38mm vband wastegate and screamer pipe
- 2.5" charge piping w/ SYNAPSE Dv to atmosphere
- full 3" exhaust
- EV14 550cc's
- upgraded sidemount
- AEM wideband

Wondering: what is the code of your engine?

[mozcar78]

epic thread is epic. Glad you put the time and effort to do this. ecuconnections had everything scattered.

[Rac_337]

thought i'd share this

good link

http://www.nefariousmotorsports.com/...ng_Information

[AmIdYfReAk]

I know, off topic...
What software you to use for data logging with Win7 32bit?
VAGcom to slow. ECUx gives me weired data (recently logged 2.7T, but some channels missing, some data looking not right, don't know what units it shows, etc.)

are you setting up ME7logger ( with a dump of your ECU and etc? )

Honestly, the thing is flawless for me.

[gdoggmoney]

Me7logger is great when it works. It is minimal, so expect things like negative integers returned and little diagnostic info why. 20 sample per second!

[vtraudt]

Me7logger is great when it works. It is minimal, so expect things like negative integers returned and little diagnostic info why. 20 sample per second!

Is Me7logger different from the 'tune and log'?
What version for Win7 32bit?

[createddeleted]

Wondering: what is the code of your engine?

AWP


I'm thinking about writing a section on grabbing the SKC code do be able to do adaptations. And maybe, just maybe, a section on flashing immo off.

[createddeleted]

Is Me7logger different from the 'tune and log'?
What version for Win7 32bit?

You're going to have to use ME7logger with the GUI if you dont know how to use the command promt. And if you didn't know it used the command promt, you were using the wrong software!

[marcello1.8t]

props for compiling all the work onto here. It gives people a great base to start reading and learning before posting redundant questions over on nefmoto.

Sadly the best way to learn is just doing with something like this. Unless you have someone who can explain everything to you as you go along.

Everyday i learn something new about these cars and how the ecu works, but i've learned enough to have my stage 3 tune pushing about 340whp at 25psi. Sure it needs work, but i enjoy knowing i'm making the power based on my own work.

[joeyyphillips]

This thread needs to come back.

If I wanted to learn about Doing this where do i START? How do I found out what model or # ECU I have.. I have a 2001 VW Jetta 1.8t 5spd AWW Wolfsburg

[RaraK69]

This thread needs to come back.

If I wanted to learn about Doing this where do i START? How do I found out what model or # ECU I have.. I have a 2001 VW Jetta 1.8t 5spd AWW Wolfsburg

06A906032DL Likely

[Dave926]

I've been trying to find a damos or something I can use for the dl ecu. Can the hs or any other of the 5 speed awp images be usedk?

[RaraK69]

I've been trying to find a damos or something I can use for the dl ecu. Can the hs or any other of the 5 speed awp images be usedk?

Nope every ecu has multiple software versions, usually ever software version of ecu type has its own specific set of map definitions.


You have to get a definition belonging to a file, and search and destroy on your file.

[Dave926]

So at this point, because the DL ecu was a one year only ecu, I would probably be better off getting an AWP ecu and either having the immo defeated or doing it myself.

[joeyyphillips]

06A906032DL Likely

How can I verify it? Just pull it out?

Where's a good source for someone that wants to learn this stuff? Like a DIY or guide or something

[Dave926]

Says it in groggory's faq. I've confirmed it by scanning my own 2001.

[joeyyphillips]

Says it in groggory's faq. I've confirmed it by scanning my own 2001.

I'll look that up thanks. And okay (06A906032DL) it is then. So 2001 all have the same ecu #? Or is there factors that play into this.

[18T_BT]

I'll look that up thanks. And okay (06A906032DL) it is then. So 2001 all have the same ecu #? Or is there factors that play into this.

Yes, all DL ecu's should have the same number unless they are automatic (I think the auto has 2 different codes because they changed from regular 4spd auto to tiptronic).

AWW 5-speed ECU

06A 906 032 DL

AWW Automatic ECU

06A 906 032 DM 06A 906 032 GH

Load tables for the auto's will be very different. Ask your boy Gonzo about this, he should be able to direct you on whatever it is you are looking for.

[joeyyphillips]

Yes, all DL ecu's should have the same number unless they are automatic (I think the auto has 2 different codes because they changed from regular 4spd auto to tiptronic).

AWW 5-speed ECU

06A 906 032 DL

AWW Automatic ECU

06A 906 032 DM 06A 906 032 GH

Load tables for the auto's will be very different. Ask your boy Gonzo about this, he should be able to direct you on whatever it is you are looking for.

Thanks, I messages gonzo but no reply yet. I wanna try this n I'm trying to research but everything is scattered and not much really "explained" I just need someone to get me started.

[joeyyphillips]

anyone wanna chime in and help me get started?

[AmIdYfReAk]

Yes, all DL ecu's should have the same number unless they are automatic (I think the auto has 2 different codes because they changed from regular 4spd auto to tiptronic).

AWW 5-speed ECU

06A 906 032 DL

AWW Automatic ECU

06A 906 032 DM 06A 906 032 GH

Load tables for the auto's will be very different. Ask your boy Gonzo about this, he should be able to direct you on whatever it is you are looking for.

You're correct that there is only one ecu part number, but keep in mind there is 4 software revision/versions of the DL alone.

The damos/xls are specific to the software as well as ecu part number.

[Budsdubbin]

for those with m3 and m5 versions usually with the 99-98 AEB audi ecu's are you able to bench flash? I tried recently to pull the image through the OBD2 port and I couldn't even connect using nefmotos flash software. If anyone can shed the light on my issue I would greatly appreciate it.

[reflected]

bench flash m3/5 is easy. reading is the hard part.

[createddeleted]

This thread needs to come back.

If I wanted to learn about Doing this where do i START? How do I found out what model or # ECU I have.. I have a 2001 VW Jetta 1.8t 5spd AWW Wolfsburg

It will come back. Late december, early January. I'll be taking off of work and focusing heavily on this project. Trust me. MASSIVE changes will come about and very very very many people will be happy. Just sit tight

Edited: as per recommendation.

[reflected]

you are really giving out misguided information.

[createddeleted]

you are really giving out misguided information.

Post above edited. I am only one guy. If you can help, I would appreciate it. I highly regard your ability, if you can point out my mistakes can you help me correct them? Please?

It's been a long road and I've been learning as I go about, but I do admit that I can only provide results from my own gathering of information/trials.

[RaraK69]

maybe ask what questions you have specifically and we can clarify them for you.


you deleted the part about immo.

Immo info is in the eeprom, the eeprom is NOT part of the flash chip that contains the calibration information.

you dont need to touch the immo if you are tuning YOUR car only. or anyone elses, only if you intend on swapping an ecu from junkyard in or selling one. In this case you can swap your SKC code or just immo off the ecu.

There are tools to read/write the eeprom readily available for free assuming you have a standard KKL cable("blue ebay vagcom cable")

immo off procedure has been widely discussed on ME7, and how to do it. I wont get into this now.

To put and HS tune(or anything newer for that matter) on a DL ecu, immo must be removed as the DL ecu's use the "IMMO2" vs "IMMO3" found in newer ecu's.

Thats all for now.

Solid facts you can compile if you want.

[createddeleted]

maybe ask what questions you have specifically and we can clarify them for you.

I'll come up with a compiled list of specific things I need addressed.

you deleted the part about immo.

Yes I did.

Immo info is in the eeprom, the eeprom is NOT part of the flash chip that contains the calibration information.

I understand this. However some people, I assume, would like to get a spare ecu to use to for a lack of better terms "hotswap".

you dont need to touch the immo if you are tuning YOUR car only. or anyone elses, only if you intend on swapping an ecu from junkyard in or selling one. In this case you can swap your SKC code or just immo off the ecu.

Exactly. SKC code can easily be pulled and used for adaptation.

There are tools to read/write the eeprom readily available for free assuming you have a standard KKL cable("blue ebay vagcom cable")

There are several tools. I have done this myself. I should probably write something that's clear on adaptation.

immo off procedure has been widely discussed on ME7, and how to do it. I wont get into this now.

A few lines of code, not really code but just changing a few numbers. I have this info as well.

To put and HS tune(or anything newer for that matter) on a DL ecu, immo must be removed as the DL ecu's use the "IMMO2" vs "IMMO3" found in newer ecu's.

But it is possible. Shame on me for omitting that information. It is possible to adapt in most situations, however in this situation that would be needed. Thank you for the enlightenment and direction.

Thats all for now.

Solid facts you can compile if you want.

What I do need, that I cannot find at the moment, is the memory layouts for the specific ECU's and the family's that those belong to. I would like to compile that. I know there was a thread describing most of what I needed on nefmoto, but I seem to have misplaced the link.

As I said, thanks for the help! I just need to make sure I get this solid. Getting external input really moves things forward.

[createddeleted]

Memory layouts are based on flash chip. How hard is that to figure out?

Not very, but I would like to find the list with all the information already on it to add to this thread.

[mrgixxer6]

Subscribed to this thread.. I've just began looking into this after being taken on an eBay deal... However I too have the dreaded DL ecu. Been looking for deffinitions for tunerpro and that brought me here.

[RaraK69]

Subscribed to this thread.. I've just began looking into this after being taken on an eBay deal... However I too have the dreaded DL ecu. Been looking for deffinitions for tunerpro and that brought me here.

Listen, you will all search for you definitions, few will find some sketchy ones, but you will never be able to do this or less you define your own file.

i already said it, theres plenty of me7 damos out there for free if you search, load that up and find similarities to your own file, copy the maps over and adjust locations to work on your file.

once you do that your good to go.