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    05-13-2012 05:41 PM #316
    Noah- I'm using the thicker one that Ed recommends. Pretty sure it's one thick layer of copper and two gaskets outside of it.

    I haven't checked the cam seals thanks for the idea... That makes sense cause I had them out recently but I did use new ones when replaced. Am I supposed to use sealant there?

    I just got home from mothers day shenanigans. I'm gonna sober up a little and try to get this pressure tester out. I do have a backup 12 pack for when failure occurs!
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    05-13-2012 07:44 PM #317
    Okay so this is how you get a stuck ****ty compression tester out.

    Step one: buy beer, smoke and grill meat. I did none of the cooking, just the eating and drinking.





    Step two: buy more beer, long 12" drill bit set.



    This is what we're working with:

    Hose broke off:



    This is left stuck in spark plug hole about 5" down:



    Drilled holes, cut socket, ratchet + extension = no more stuckness

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    05-13-2012 07:50 PM #318
    ya there is supposed to be sealant on the corners on the of the ledges.

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    05-14-2012 09:23 AM #319
    Quote Originally Posted by Audiguy84 View Post
    ya there is supposed to be sealant on the corners on the of the ledges.
    Thanks! I wonder if I can pop that large cam cap off and slide the seals out/apply sealant without pulling the TB off again? I'm gonna give it a try but TB takes 10 minutes. Pulling the head could have been hours- glad ya spotted that.
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    05-14-2012 10:13 AM #320
    Wow that looks like it was a pita. Thank god for beer
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    05-14-2012 12:36 PM #321
    Hey I work on BMW's which ALL leak oil.. I would start with removing the TB cover and inspect the cam gear area, also I know this might sound wierd but also check the area of the cam tensioner chain, leaks can migrate from one side of the engine to the other making it look like its leaking somewhere else when it isn't

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    05-15-2012 11:32 PM #322
    Audiguy84-- you were right. The hall sender cam seal was leaking badly. I removed it and it wasn't damaged so just put some sealant on it and bolted it all back together. Car ran tonight and ripped it around the neighborhood a little. Guess I'll pull the hall sender housing off and check it in a couple of days.

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    05-16-2012 08:42 AM #323
    Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post
    Audiguy84-- you were right. The hall sender cam seal was leaking badly. I removed it and it wasn't damaged so just put some sealant on it and bolted it all back together. Car ran tonight and ripped it around the neighborhood a little. Guess I'll pull the hall sender housing off and check it in a couple of days.

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    05-16-2012 11:36 AM #324
    I'm glad I could be helpful to you. I bet that took a huge weight off your chest huh.

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    05-17-2012 08:20 AM #325
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    Running the car with the MAF currently unplugged, it's about 400awhp is starting to hint and the necessity for a front LSD. Around very small bends my inside tire likes to spin through 3rd gear acceleration.

    So what should I save for- Haldex Blue/Orange or front LSD. Remember the car is daily driven so I'm not sure about the Orange and Haldex longevity.
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  11. 05-17-2012 08:41 AM #326
    I'd say go for the haldex controller for two reasons:

    1) that inside wheel spin is more likely the related to the tire being unloaded. The EDL does a pretty decent job in the front, unless it's not working properly due to a sensor malfunction.

    2) with front spin and a performance tuned controller, most of that spin will be aggressively transferred to the rear for some tail action

  12. 05-17-2012 08:45 AM #327
    ...And haldex competion (no more orange) if you're going to spend the money. Having the rear engaged under braking is to me half of the benefit of upgrading.

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    05-17-2012 08:54 AM #328
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus_Aurelius View Post
    ...And haldex competion (no more orange) if you're going to spend the money. Having the rear engaged under braking is to me half of the benefit of upgrading.

    x2

    Love my Comp unit! So much more stable under full threshold braking.
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    05-17-2012 08:56 AM #329
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus_Aurelius View Post
    ...And haldex competion (no more orange) if you're going to spend the money. Having the rear engaged under braking is to me half of the benefit of upgrading.
    Me too but the concern of mine is running the Haldex all the time night shorten the lifespan?

    Also my car doesn't have ESP/EDL/ASR- no traction control at all from the factory.
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  15. 05-17-2012 09:24 AM #330
    Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post
    Me too but the concern of mine is running the Haldex all the time night shorten the lifespan?

    Also my car doesn't have ESP/EDL/ASR- no traction control at all from the factory.
    Disregard that concern because the controller is not engaging the rear more than the OEM in the majority of driving conditions.

    I know you don't have ESP and ASR but I tought all TT, even early ones had EDL standard?

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    05-17-2012 09:52 AM #331
    Well it would stay engaged under braking ?

    Would you at least increase the haldex oil change intervals to 10k instead of 20k or just leave it as is?

    I'd much rather go with a haldex controller over a differential. I'd probably save the diff. for the next time I need a clutch.
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  17. 05-17-2012 10:18 AM #332
    Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post
    Well it would stay engaged under braking ?

    Would you at least increase the haldex oil change intervals to 10k instead of 20k or just leave it as is?

    I'd much rather go with a haldex controller over a differential. I'd probably save the diff. for the next time I need a clutch.
    It would only stay engaged under braking, providing that it was active prior to the braking input. Trolling around at regular speed (not sure how much of that you do lately ) and getting on your brakes would not, all of the sudden, engage the rear.

    What the competion unit does is keep it from disengaging, like the stock and blue unit does, if you were transferring power to the rear and decided to go on the brakes. There are several benefit to that, including increased engine braking, stability since the car isn't unsettled with the sudden rear disengagement, and many more like the ability to throttle steer the car through all 3 phases.

    Yeah, it would be smart to go for a performance controller before the diff upgrade.
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    05-17-2012 10:22 AM #333
    Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post
    Well it would stay engaged under braking ?

    Would you at least increase the haldex oil change intervals to 10k instead of 20k or just leave it as is?

    I'd much rather go with a haldex controller over a differential. I'd probably save the diff. for the next time I need a clutch.

    6-10k is my normal fluid change interval. Perhaps excessive, but the fluid is cheap when compared to a new controller/pump. It seems as when the fluid gets excessively beaten up it causes the brushes in the pump to wear out faster.
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  19. 05-17-2012 10:32 AM #334
    Quote Originally Posted by DeckManDubs View Post
    6-10k is my normal fluid change interval. Perhaps excessive, but the fluid is cheap when compared to a new controller/pump. It seems as when the fluid gets excessively beaten up it causes the brushes in the pump to wear out faster.
    The service interval would depend on how much one manage to get rear engagement and how long you stay on it (creating heat and wear). Someone like Doug may need a 5k interval, someone like me a 30k interval, while everybody else would be somewhere in between these two extremes

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    05-17-2012 10:34 AM #335
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus_Aurelius View Post
    Trolling around at regular speed (not sure how much of that you do lately )
    3rd & 4th gear 30psi pulls down Rt. 110 count as normal driving.

    You ever see people on that road in the morning? They are crazy- I'm just trying to get away from them!

    But seriously the benefits of the Orange controller have always sounded appealing. I'd probably just increase my fluid change intervals to something like every 6 months. In other news I need to get this DV setup... Ordering parts tomorrow.
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    05-17-2012 10:39 AM #336
    Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post
    In other news I need to get this DV setup... Ordering parts tomorrow.

    Do it. So much better. Group B sounds are worth it alone
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    05-17-2012 11:45 AM #337
    Quote Originally Posted by DeckManDubs View Post
    Do it. So much better. Group B sounds are worth it alone
    Ok now I want to hear one in action.....it may not look pretty but if it sounds like a group b car then I'm all in
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    05-17-2012 12:04 PM #338
    So I snapped the damn helicoil off my dogbone bolt again. Screw helicoils- I'm going with a stainless steel TimeSert insert.

    I'm pretty sure the bolt is M10 x 1.5 - can someone confirm? Anyone know how deep the threads go? IIRC it's about 30mm or so.

    ETKA online seems to be down or I'd confirm
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  24. 05-17-2012 12:14 PM #339
    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYED TT View Post
    .....it may not look pretty but if it sounds like a group b car then I'm all in
    You mean ... it may not look cute

    Maybe Doug can post a picture of it after I did the mods and the polishing. IMO the finished look is decent for a part that goes under the hood, but you can always find a can of bright pink

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    05-17-2012 01:32 PM #340
    Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post
    So I snapped the damn helicoil off my dogbone bolt again. Screw helicoils- I'm going with a stainless steel TimeSert insert.

    I'm pretty sure the bolt is M10 x 1.5 - can someone confirm? Anyone know how deep the threads go? IIRC it's about 30mm or so.

    ETKA online seems to be down or I'd confirm
    Just be a man about it and tap up to a larger bolt. I've had to do this before, and don't trust helicoils in super critical places.

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    05-17-2012 01:56 PM #341
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus_Aurelius View Post
    You mean ... it may not look cute

    Maybe Doug can post a picture of it after I did the mods and the polishing. IMO the finished look is decent for a part that goes under the hood, but you can always find a can of bright pink
    Polished is always good or powder coated pink
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  27. 05-17-2012 02:46 PM #342
    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYED TT View Post
    Polished is always good or powder coated pink
    Although I have PC them before at low temp, it is not wise to bring a rubber diaphragm to 200 degrees for 25 minutes. Spray paint or rock it polished, although it may not be as cute...

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    05-18-2012 11:04 AM #343
    I just ordered 2.5" and 1.25" silicone for the charge pipe:



    The Intake side will have to be custom fabricated still. Can't find 1.35" aluminum tube.


    Max's valve:

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    05-18-2012 11:28 AM #344
    Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post
    I just ordered 2.5" and 1.25" silicone for the charge pipe:



    The Intake side will have to be custom fabricated still. Can't find 1.35" aluminum tube.


    Max's valve:

    Get some 1.375 tubing. The .025" should not give you much of an issue when it comes to getting the rubber fitting over it.
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    05-18-2012 11:37 AM #345
    Quote Originally Posted by DeckManDubs View Post
    Get some 1.375 tubing. The .025" should not give you much of an issue when it comes to getting the rubber fitting over it.
    Where from? I'm going to try and drop by a local machine shop during lunch to see if they have anything. I'm dying to get this DV in and change a few things in the tune.
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    05-18-2012 12:28 PM #346
    Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post
    Where from? I'm going to try and drop by a local machine shop during lunch to see if they have anything. I'm dying to get this DV in and change a few things in the tune.

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    05-19-2012 06:49 PM #347
    Okay- time for a professional paint job. Seems like someone might be doing me a favor.

    Need wild color suggestions. I'm thinking sick tones of blue. Any ideas?
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    Brown or cream
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  34. 05-19-2012 08:47 PM #349
    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYED TT View Post
    Brown or cream
    We are going to have to protect Doug from you until he has decided on his new color

    You have wet dreams of a cream or brown TT with pink wheels ... the rest of us have nightmares about it!

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    Bahahahaha
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