Big turbo build- take two

[DougLoBue]

Wow nice shoot I guess you fixed the fuel pump???

Car is on stands with the fuel pump out for warranty work and the suspension shipped out for trade- traffic camera tickets take a few weeks to get to ya

[jbrehm]

Ooooh, what suspension are you putting on?

I can't believe it took you this long to take the 35lb weight off the rear!

[DougLoBue]

Ooooh, what suspension are you putting on?

It will be much more street-able than the H&R RSS's I had. I had a really hard time letting go of them as I know I will never find a better handling suspension for this car. Unfortunately my commute to work is pretty much driving 10 miles down a road full of what could be called speed bumps and my car/body is not handling it well. When James visited he followed in a much softer suspension car and I think they had a hard time with it!

More go fast parts on the way too though

500awhp goal, back in the crosshairs

[1.8tipgls]

This sweet arial shot only cost $55- deal if you ask me!

For the record, I was not only tuning my car with a laptop but also texting on one cellphone and talking on the other. haha, kidding, but not really.

thats actually a great quality shot lol

[DougLoBue]

Some parts arrived today:

KW V3's



Snow Performance stage 3 MGP MAX water injection controller
42 Draft Designs manifold & McMaster push-lock fittings - Thank you John @ 42DD!

[Marcus_Aurelius]

Looking good! I have a pre-TB nozzle for you to start, and I should have the custom direct ports nozzles soon.

[20v master]

So this is the how many'eth set of coilovers you've had on this car?

[DougLoBue]

Looking good! I have a pre-TB nozzle for you to start, and I should have the custom direct ports nozzles soon.

Thanks Max!

So this is the how many'eth set of coilovers you've had on this car?

This will be my 4th

HPA SHS - super soft
H&R Streets - perfect, had miles on them so sold them
H&R RSS - can't beat them on a track, bad for NY daily driving
KW V3's - results in a few weeks time

[20v master]

So are the RSS's available? The KW's aren't "stiff" enough for me, but should be better on the rough streets.

[Marcus_Aurelius]

So are the RSS's available? The KW's aren't "stiff" enough for me, but should be better on the rough streets.

They are on John's car now, John was looking for stiffer with the better roads in his area, while Doug was looking for more comfort. Swap made in heaven!

[DougLoBue]

So are the RSS's available? The KW's aren't "stiff" enough for me, but should be better on the rough streets.

Do you have the V3's as well?

[jbrehm]

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the V3s, Doug - especially as compared to the RSS.

So are the RSS's available? The KW's aren't "stiff" enough for me, but should be better on the rough streets.

I've got some <1-year-old H&R SS, which are between the Street and RSS, and wouldn't mind trading for something a tad softer. I love how responsive the car is, and how it handles, but they're killing me on my Moon-like streets

[20v master]

I've got some <1-year-old H&R SS, which are between the Street and RSS, and wouldn't mind trading for something a tad softer. I love how responsive the car is, and how it handles, but they're killing me on my Moon-like streets

I have nothing to trade.

Do you have the V3's as well?

V2's.

[DougLoBue]

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the V3s, Doug - especially as compared to the RSS.

In a couple of weeks when I have the car back on the road I'll definitely post a review. Do some back to back seat time in Max's car vs my car maybe.

I thought the H&R SS's were kind of their comfort line of coilover that used a twin tube strut design?

[Malant]

So are the RSS's available? The KW's aren't "stiff" enough for me, but should be better on the rough streets.

I had the V3's, they did give me the feeling that there could have been some improvement if they were a bit stiffer which is why I traded with Doug. I put H&R Front and Rear Sways on with the V3's and it helped significantly stiffen them up. Car felt pretty awesome, helped reduce body roll significantly, made them into much more of a performer. The V3's can also be improved by ditching the rear progressive spring for a linear version.

Now that I have the RSS's I switched back to factory sways and the car is definitely much harsher, car sticks to the ground better but I do feel everything, and feel it HARD. The V3's are a great daily driven coilover that is performance oriented, with sway bars it makes it a very solid competitor to the RSS, however nothing really touches the control you have with the RSS's, but you sacrifice a LOT of ride quality to achieve this.

PS- Still have that bumper if you need it!

They are on John's car now, John was looking for stiffer with the better roads in his area, while Doug was looking for more comfort. Swap made in heaven!

Swap was made in heaven! I miss the V3's aspect of comfort, however the roads around me make it not to bad. As Doug has harsher roads he can also adjust the coilovers for much more comfort for his weekly commutes, then adjust the rebound and dampening for track weekends etc. The V3's can be used well in many different scenarios. Its not dedicated full race all the time.

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the V3s, Doug - especially as compared to the RSS.




I've got some <1-year-old H&R SS, which are between the Street and RSS, and wouldn't mind trading for something a tad softer. I love how responsive the car is, and how it handles, but they're killing me on my Moon-like streets

Instead of swapping out the coilovers, why don't you try switching to the H&R Street springs?

[01ttgt28]

Snow Performance stage 3 MGP MAX water injection controller

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You should get the snow performance fail safe with waste gate solinoid I ordered mine today
It cost $260 shipped

[Marcus_Aurelius]

You should get the snow performance fail safe with waste gate solinoid I ordered mine today
It cost $260 shipped

Good move

He doesn't need any failsafe other than the E85 that he runs. I sold my failsafes after converting to ethanol, its knock suppression is so great that people sometime think their knock sensors have failed after the switch.

[DougLoBue]

My "max VE table under knock" is configured for half the max loads. It literally closes the TB to 50% under knock in High RPM's. I have logs of it when my fuel pump was dying. It's a cool feature.

[Marcus_Aurelius]

My "max VE table under knock" is configured for half the max loads. It literally closes the TB to 50% under knock in High RPM's. I have logs of it when my fuel pump was dying. It's a cool feature.

Cool safety feature although you don't need it! There is a difference between actual knock and timing corrections. You'll soon realize that you hardly can get E85 to knock (picked up by the knock sensors voltage readings) when AFR is in check. Ethanol will knock from beeing overly rich, and I'm assuming from being overly lean as well (although I've never seen it). The ECU timing corrections are a factor of many things that includes inputs from IAT, EGT, coolant temperature, and knock sensor activity. It is common for people to think that whenever they see corrections that there is actual knock but it is not necessarely the case. In your situation Doug, with your E85 powered monster, most corrections are going to be from heat and coolant temp unless your AFR is really out of line.

[Malant]

Cool safety feature although you don't need it! There is a difference between actual knock and timing corrections. You'll soon realize that you hardly can get E85 to knock (picked up by the knock sensors voltage readings) when AFR is in check. Ethanol will knock from beeing overly rich, and I'm assuming from being overly lean as well (although I've never seen it). The ECU timing corrections are a factor of many things that includes inputs from IAT, EGT, coolant temperature, and knock sensor activity. It is common for people to think that whenever they see corrections that there is actual knock but it is not necessarely the case. In your situation Doug, with your E85 powered monster, most corrections are going to be from heat and coolant temp unless your AFR is really out of line.

Very cool safety feature, I would have never thought about that. Max do you think that feature might be useful if he gets a bad batch or misadvertised tank of E85? If its already built into the software there's no reason not to run it.

PS - An E85 station just became operational right between work and my house.... I think next tank I may tank the plunge as my hardware is already ready for it!

[DougLoBue]

NOT my map but this is an example I found on the web of the map I'm using to do this:

[Marcus_Aurelius]

Is this taken with actual knock from the knock sensor voltage activity or simply referencing to timing correction to numb things down?

If it's not using actual knock as a reference to set maximum VE, you're potentially leaving power on the table by being agressive with this on E85.

[DougLoBue]

It's my understanding it's taking knock sensor readings- that's the only time I've seen it used at least.

There are different tables for timing corrections.

[pintumoto]

Very good job!

[DeckManDubs]

Doug, you interested in running at the next track day? It is in October @ Lime Rock with the BMW club. Got to finish off my r-compounds for the end of the season.

[01ttgt28]

Doug, you interested in running at the next track day? It is in October @ Lime Rock with the BMW club. Got to finish off my r-compounds for the end of the season.

What a track day and its near ma

[DougLoBue]

Doug, you interested in running at the next track day? It is in October @ Lime Rock with the BMW club. Got to finish off my r-compounds for the end of the season.

Running my car? If it run's I'm in. I'm not sure my new suspension setup will be up to spec but we'll see!

Just got my fuel pump back from warranty work yesterday. Have a lot of work to do still- progress has been a little slow lately...

[winTTer]

wow Doug, just caught myself up on all your progress. I'm back in NY for the next few months. I wanna see this beast! Looks sick

[DougLoBue]

wow Doug, just caught myself up on all your progress. I'm back in NY for the next few months. I wanna see this beast! Looks sick

Thanks James! I should be back on the road soon, just took it off for a few new toys.

[DougLoBue]

-KW V3's are all in
-Purchased used headlight adjusters and installed them as my originals broke.
-Water injection is setup with the exception of the injector wires and mounting- I got tired. Considering ordering a EuroDash for the controller to sit in.
-New VC gasket and cam seals in again to try and stop this random leak.
-6AN Fuel lines ran from tank to under hood- no leaks. Surge tank planning began and I need to drive to FFE to have them weld it.
-Custom power steering tank almost done- just need a bigger drill chuck then done.

Need to set a couple things up still. Just about back to driving this thing. I started to flush mount my Kicker EQ and then get the entire interior back together. Trying to be done in the next week or so for plenty of tuning/tweaking time before the drive to H20. Hope to make it this year!

[01ttgt28]

Nice you could all ways remove the ashtray if you don't smoke and take apart the controller and screw it in where the ashtray sits sorry for any bad spelling I have been drinking vodka and I'm kinda f#$k up

[DougLoBue]

Haha nice Rick! I would have popped it down there but my EQ is there already:




So had my job do some milling/tapping on the oil catch can turned power steering resivour.



Installed in the car:







An ideal but maybe not possible fuel pump location:



Resulting space for a surge tank:




I made a few new 1/4" NPT ports for direct vacuum connections: From 3pm counter clockwise: DV, Hobbs switch (not in yet, for fuel pump), AFPR, WM controller & boost gauge, brake booster

Note fuel lines aren't permanent, only like this temporarily until I have a surge tank welded up.

[20v master]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but that Aeromotive regulator won't like being attached to the engine. The vibrations make them fail. You were better off with it mounted to the frame/fender like before.

[DougLoBue]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but that Aeromotive regulator won't like being attached to the engine. The vibrations make them fail. You were better off with it mounted to the frame/fender like before.

Yeah I think I've heard that before. How about mounting it to the battery box? There isn't much else over there for me to mount it to.

[Late__Apex]

I'd be a bit apprehensive about the fuel pump in the wheel well - even if the liner is there. One good road gator and you could be doing a Ghost Rider imitation.