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    05-24-2012 02:32 PM #526
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    what relay do you have?
    Running the 80stinger it was wired up from
    The diagram that was posted in here I believe.





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    05-24-2012 02:34 PM #527
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    The new update gets rid of that issue. I haven't had the compressors kick on with the key once since Jeff updated it. I've just been dealing with the leaks.
    What version is the new update?



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    05-24-2012 02:42 PM #528
    Quote Originally Posted by choey View Post
    What version is the new update?



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    Don't know the version but it's the only one they've had.

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    05-24-2012 05:26 PM #529
    I have a shipping label to ship my manifold to Airlift to be reprogrammed. I've just been lazy

    Next week I'll probably send it out so I can have the car drive able for the weekend. Hopefully it fixes my issue of the compressor kicking on all the time

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    05-24-2012 08:08 PM #530
    Quote Originally Posted by bryangb View Post
    I have a shipping label to ship my manifold to Airlift to be reprogrammed. I've just been lazy

    Next week I'll probably send it out so I can have the car drive able for the weekend. Hopefully it fixes my issue of the compressor kicking on all the time
    It will.

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    05-24-2012 08:20 PM #531
    I may have to look into this more I just got a replacement manifold from them a month ago and I'm not sure if it's updated or not


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    05-24-2012 11:16 PM #532
    Quote Originally Posted by choey View Post
    I may have to look into this more I just got a replacement manifold from them a month ago and I'm not sure if it's updated or not


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    Well, is it working properly? If so, you don't need it.

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    05-25-2012 12:15 AM #533
    Quote Originally Posted by bryangb View Post
    Well, is it working properly? If so, you don't need it.
    Everything works great it made me realize how terrible my last manifold was lol. But it does always kick the compressors on when I start the car no matter the tank pressure.



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    06-01-2012 01:13 PM #534
    Quote Originally Posted by choey View Post
    Everything works great it made me realize how terrible my last manifold was lol. But it does always kick the compressors on when I start the car no matter the tank pressure.
    That's strange.. do you have one or two compressors?
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    06-02-2012 03:00 AM #535
    Quote Originally Posted by Will@BagRiders View Post
    That's strange.. do you have one or two compressors?
    I am running 2 compressors now. The last 2 days it hasnt kicked on all the time, but the week before every time I turned the key it would fire up the compressors even to fill the tank like 5 psi

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    06-03-2012 09:49 AM #536
    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel Nuts View Post
    While at SOWO, Air Lift had the new software update done to my V2 management. Fixed the issue where compressor will turn on when you turn the key even if the tank is just about full. Only thing it didn't fix was airing the car up to ride height after the car sits, the compressor will still turn on even if it doesn't get below my tank minimum.

    My only complaint was after all this, my right front bag was leaking the entire trip home. Thought maybe I needed to cut the ends of the airline and reinsert into the manifold. Front right bag still leaks a tad from what I see and my rear has a nice leak on it now. Leaving on a business trip until next month so I'll probably deal with that headache when I get back.
    i talked to the airlift guys at sowo also. they offered to flash it for me but i wasn't able to get my car into the show. they gave me a number to call after the show but i had no service in helen.
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    06-17-2012 02:21 PM #537
    Does the V2 turn off automatically the compressor if the battery drops to a critical voltage? Sometimes I have the compressor running with the engine turned off...

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    06-17-2012 02:47 PM #538
    Quote Originally Posted by Piso View Post
    Does the V2 turn off automatically the compressor if the battery drops to a critical voltage? Sometimes I have the compressor running with the engine turned off...
    Not sure but when I was running single compressor I would let it run and never had any problems. Now that I have 2 I wont let it go with the car not running

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    06-17-2012 03:00 PM #539
    Quote Originally Posted by Piso View Post
    Does the V2 turn off automatically the compressor if the battery drops to a critical voltage? Sometimes I have the compressor running with the engine turned off...

    I would assume that you should put the main relay connected to a switched power signal instead of a constant so it will only run with key-on position.

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    06-17-2012 03:29 PM #540
    I did, but you can have the key in key-on position even with the motor turned off...

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    06-17-2012 04:49 PM #541
    If you let it run long enough of course it will kill the battery

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    06-17-2012 05:19 PM #542
    Yes, I know. But I also know that accuair turns the compressor off if the battery reaches a critical voltage. I just wanted to know if the V2 acts the same way...

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    06-17-2012 05:46 PM #543
    for two 440s to drain your battery enough to not start they will have to inflate more than a 7 gallon tank from 0 to 150 and yu can get away with that... regardless there is no need to have them run that long ive used mine for a while like that when i was testing the system out and checking for leaks... you can always buy a yellow top i just bought mine

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    06-18-2012 09:57 AM #544
    Quote Originally Posted by Piso View Post
    Yes, I know. But I also know that accuair turns the compressor off if the battery reaches a critical voltage. I just wanted to know if the V2 acts the same way...
    No, the V2 doesn't have this feature.
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    06-18-2012 03:30 PM #545
    So if I wire the v2 to a non constant wire it will turn off and stay off compressors and all, without randomly kicking back on on the garage?

    Or better yet what has to be done to ensure the compressors aren't draining my 280$ Odyssey fmj battery? Install an inline kill switch for both compressors, that I can just flip off when the display shows the tank full?
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    06-18-2012 03:43 PM #546
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
    So if I wire the v2 to a non constant wire it will turn off and stay off compressors and all, without randomly kicking back on on the garage?
    Correct. I'm not sure any other way you would want it run, or if the install manual tells you otherwise. Running the compressor to a constant power seems like a great way to cause an issue down the line as it can run and run and run when you don't need it to or if you aren't around (premature failure). Either have a hand switch to turn it off if it is on constant power feed (more effort to remember to turn it off all the time) or just run it to a switched power so it will never accidentally run (possibly constantly if you have a leak) in your garage. This is a basic automotive thing, but just applies to this instance of air ride and not specific to only the V2 system.

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    06-18-2012 04:02 PM #547
    And the ecu will be fine wired to a switched power source? As in presets and settings I mean.
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    06-18-2012 04:11 PM #548
    Quote Originally Posted by mannythechamp View Post
    for two 440s to drain your battery enough to not start they will have to inflate more than a 7 gallon tank from 0 to 150 and yu can get away with that... regardless there is no need to have them run that long ive used mine for a while like that when i was testing the system out and checking for leaks... you can always buy a yellow top i just bought mine
    You sure about this? With my 3 OB2's running it takes maybe 20 seconds for my battery to reach critical level, and the OB2's are more efficient at filling tanks (yes i realize they draw more amperage yada yada but in total they take less battery power to fill up X gallons)

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    06-18-2012 04:15 PM #549
    Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
    You sure about this? With my 3 OB2's running it takes maybe 20 seconds for my battery to reach critical level, and the OB2's are more efficient at filling tanks (yes i realize they draw more amperage yada yada but in total they take less battery power to fill up X gallons)
    So pretty much with my Odyssey dry cell, and if I turn the car on and let it idle while I fill the tank my battery should not come close to critical level right?
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    06-18-2012 04:25 PM #550
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
    So pretty much with my Odyssey dry cell, and if I turn the car on and let it idle while I fill the tank my battery should not come close to critical level right?
    If your car is idling while you fill the tank you will not reach critical level with a stock alternator (90 or 120A) UNLESS you are running 2/3 OB2's. With 2 OB2's you will need at least a 120A alternator. With 3 i would recommend a 250A running/150A idle alternator.

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    06-18-2012 04:43 PM #551
    Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
    If your car is idling while you fill the tank you will not reach critical level with a stock alternator (90 or 120A) UNLESS you are running 2/3 OB2's. With 2 OB2's you will need at least a 120A alternator. With 3 i would recommend a 250A running/150A idle alternator.
    Lol ok. I'm gonna be using 1-2 compressors. Most likely something in the 480C range.
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    06-18-2012 04:56 PM #552
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
    Lol ok. I'm gonna be using 1-2 compressors. Most likely something in the 480C range.
    Yup you are fine filling up your tanks at idle with 480's


    Another thing that should be brought up here while we are talking about it is running your compressors with your car off. These compressors SHOULD be run at 13.8V, the closer you get to that magic number the less stress you are putting on the motors and the longer they will last you. If you are constantly running your compressors with your car off you will be running them from 12V, perhaps down to 11V depending on how long the compressors run for.

    Lower voltage = higher amperage = higher heat = overheating of compressors = motor failure/mechanical siezing

    I NEVER run my compressors with my car off

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    06-18-2012 06:07 PM #553
    ^ cool, thanks
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    06-19-2012 12:07 AM #554
    Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
    You sure about this? With my 3 OB2's running it takes maybe 20 seconds for my battery to reach critical level, and the OB2's are more efficient at filling tanks (yes i realize they draw more amperage yada yada but in total they take less battery power to fill up X gallons)
    yea im positive it never happened to me for the 1st few weekends that i would empty and refill the tank with the car in the on position and not have it running, while i checked for leaks i now have yellow top so i dont even worry anymore. and what do you call critical level?

    two compressors at 30 amps is like running two 30 amp music amplifiers with the car off and you can run the music for a while let alone the 40 something second it should take to get from 110 to 150

    hope this helps

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    06-19-2012 12:08 AM #555
    Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
    Yup you are fine filling up your tanks at idle with 480's


    Another thing that should be brought up here while we are talking about it is running your compressors with your car off. These compressors SHOULD be run at 13.8V, the closer you get to that magic number the less stress you are putting on the motors and the longer they will last you. If you are constantly running your compressors with your car off you will be running them from 12V, perhaps down to 11V depending on how long the compressors run for.

    Lower voltage = higher amperage = higher heat = overheating of compressors = motor failure/mechanical siezing

    I NEVER run my compressors with my car off
    this is extremely true! you hear the difference and even the fill up time decreases

  31. 06-19-2012 03:32 PM #556
    Have any of you guys had fuses being blown for the compressors? My 2nd 444 seams to keep blowing every few days, its wired up correctly as per wiring diagram!

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    06-19-2012 04:27 PM #557
    Quote Originally Posted by sunilbass View Post
    Have any of you guys had fuses being blown for the compressors? My 2nd 444 seams to keep blowing every few days, its wired up correctly as per wiring diagram!
    What size fuse are you using?

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    06-19-2012 06:56 PM #558
    Wish someone would respond to my issues. Everyone keeps telling me that Air lift has such great customer service but so far 2 days with no response. Looks like Ill send another email.

    Anyone here have any issues where you set your preset pressures but the system never goes to it? For example one preset is 45 45 35 35 but when i press it goes to like 47 58 29 36 and says complete. I have recalibarated like 80x now and still same issue. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coneklr View Post
    Wish someone would respond to my issues. Everyone keeps telling me that Air lift has such great customer service but so far 2 days with no response. Looks like Ill send another email.

    Anyone here have any issues where you set your preset pressures but the system never goes to it? For example one preset is 45 45 35 35 but when i press it goes to like 47 58 29 36 and says complete. I have recalibarated like 80x now and still same issue. Any thoughts?
    Was it calibrated on a level surface?
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    06-19-2012 09:06 PM #560
    Quote Originally Posted by coneklr View Post
    Wish someone would respond to my issues. Everyone keeps telling me that Air lift has such great customer service but so far 2 days with no response. Looks like Ill send another email.

    Anyone here have any issues where you set your preset pressures but the system never goes to it? For example one preset is 45 45 35 35 but when i press it goes to like 47 58 29 36 and says complete. I have recalibarated like 80x now and still same issue. Any thoughts?
    Sounds like you aren't calibrating it on a properly level surface.

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