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    Thread: Do you have or know where a Orange 1973 Super Beetle is with VIN:1332148995 PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!

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      11-22-2011 11:24 PM #1
      The bug use to be my mothers before she pasted a way in 2002 from skin cancer. She drove it for several years and was her favorite car (I always remember her driving this car everywhere). Before I went to boot camp for the Navy my brother sold the car without telling me. Now that I'm out of the Navy and stable, I have been looking for the car for a couple years and just learned today the VIN# for the car. Like I said if you have or know where a Orange 1973 Super Beetle is with VIN:1332148995 PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!! I don't care what time of day it is, just call/txt 254-679-1148


      The lastest intel:

      Chris Watson
      bought 4/16/1999
      Sold 12/17/2003

      James T. Worchester
      Bought 01/24/2004

      ATC Sales & Service
      Bought 08/24/2005

      Ida Margrethe
      Bought 08/15/2006
      Sold in 2008 (UNK Current owner)

      Last seen in Watsonville, CA 1.5 years ago by PO mother



      THANKS!!!
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      11-22-2011 11:35 PM #2
      you know, it's always in the last place you look.

      but seriously, what state/ region?

      go to your local police station and have the numbers run. you'll get records of people who have regestered the car for leads. good luck man!
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      11-23-2011 12:22 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by justing1234 View Post
      you know, it's always in the last place you look.

      but seriously, what state/ region?

      go to your local police station and have the numbers run. you'll get records of people who have regestered the car for leads. good luck man!
      Car was sold (Dec 17, 2003) in Belton, TX 76513 (Central TX)

      Already been there, tax office and the DMV, they will not release any information (Privacy Act)

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      11-23-2011 02:02 AM #4

      Dayo watson ,


      Assuming your bro no longer has the buy/sell package(I still have mine from my original purchase of my 1956 bug back in 1975 ) which showed the original buyer,who you might be able to contact to find who he/she sold it to or maybe access to a copy of maybe a bank check he received showing the buyer's name then I'd post this Q up in relavent south central/west aircooled forums like http://www.speedshots.net/tvwdra/forum/ from http://www.tvwdra.org/ from http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/...33703#msg33703 or http://www.thesamba.com/vw/clubs/ or as a genreral post in http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/chat/ .
      Another shot at it,but probably a longshot ,would be to have the VIN# run on http://www.carfax.com/ if you have a freind at a local VW(or any other make for that matter) dealership or other repair shop who is already a paying member(I'll see if I can have it run @ my work http://www.orangecountyvolkswagen.co...cs:ki=48117376 tomorrow ) & http://superbeetle.websitetoolbox.com/ & http://www.superbeetlesonly.com/forum/index.php? .

      Given the 7-8 years since it's last been seen it most likey will not still be orange,so maybe state it as "was originally orange" ,& it could pretty easily have ended up in a VW boneyard to be pecked apart .(Just being honest)

      I hope you find it

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      11-23-2011 11:01 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by buggyman View Post

      Dayo watson ,


      Assuming your bro no longer has the buy/sell package(I still have mine from my original purchase of my 1956 bug back in 1975 ) which showed the original buyer,who you might be able to contact to find who he/she sold it to or maybe access to a copy of maybe a bank check he received showing the buyer's name then I'd post this Q up in relavent south central/west aircooled forums like http://www.speedshots.net/tvwdra/forum/ from http://www.tvwdra.org/ from http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/...33703#msg33703 or http://www.thesamba.com/vw/clubs/ or as a genreral post in http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/chat/ .
      Another shot at it,but probably a longshot ,would be to have the VIN# run on http://www.carfax.com/ if you have a freind at a local VW(or any other make for that matter) dealership or other repair shop who is already a paying member(I'll see if I can have it run @ my work http://www.orangecountyvolkswagen.co...cs:ki=48117376 tomorrow ) & http://superbeetle.websitetoolbox.com/ & http://www.superbeetlesonly.com/forum/index.php? .

      Given the 7-8 years since it's last been seen it most likey will not still be orange,so maybe state it as "was originally orange" ,& it could pretty easily have ended up in a VW boneyard to be pecked apart .(Just being honest)

      I hope you find it
      Yea my brother doesn't have any paperwork or anything. The whole search start with him saying it he sold it to a carlot in a general area. After months of looking, nothing found. Ended up calling a family resturant in that area and told me years ago there was a car lot across the street. After several phone calls I tracked the retired car lot owners down in VA and they luckly still had the information (VIN) and she remembered the color of the car before I told her... I think my heart drop when she told me. She tols me the date he sold it, the date they sold it and who they sold it to. I haven't been able to track that person down yet. I didn't think about the Carfax...Would it show if the car was totaled or scrapped? Honestly I hope it's in a bone yard picked away a little (As long as the main shell is there). My mom with skin cancer was slowly picked away, but there was nothing we could do. Finding the car like this would give me the joy of completely restoring her back to new!! Well thanks again man for you time and research.....It means more then the world to find this car.

      EDIT: Just found out CARFAX doesn't do cars older then 1981 when the 17 digit VIN became standard.
      Last edited by watsonst04; 11-23-2011 at 11:40 AM.

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      11-23-2011 03:06 PM #6
      ask your brother what car lot. they will give you the info
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      11-23-2011 05:13 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by justing1234 View Post
      ask your brother what car lot. they will give you the info
      justin, read carefully my friend....

      "After several phone calls I tracked the retired car lot owners down in VA and they luckly still had the information (VIN) and she remembered the color of the car before I told her... I think my heart drop when she told me. She tols me the date he sold it, the date they sold it and who they sold it to. I haven't been able to track that person down yet."

      too many ? or too much ? maybe a combo? hehehe

      Good Luck OP!! I really hope this is found, make for a very cool story/build!

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      11-23-2011 09:08 PM #8
      nah, i "try" to stay away from that stuff but i was in class i skimmed through it. if i were, however, you wouldent be able to read a word of my writing.
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      11-23-2011 09:43 PM #9
      Well hopefully I'll learn something new around Monday. I got a family member that works at a car dealership and can request information like this. Only thing is I hope that because it's older then a 81' (When the VIN became standard) she can still track it down. Another issue I have is the town the car is around is very close to Ft. Hood (Major Army base) and soldiers can drag car all over the US in a couple years. If I have to drive to Maine or Cally, it's not a big deal just a big road trip with truck and trailer.. Thanks again guys for your help and support!!

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      11-24-2011 02:58 AM #10

      Quote Originally Posted by watsonst04 View Post
      Well hopefully I'll learn something new around Monday. I got a family member that works at a car dealership and can request information like this. Only thing is I hope that because it's older then a 81' (When the VIN became standard) she can still track it down. Another issue I have is the town the car is around is very close to Ft. Hood (Major Army base) and soldiers can drag car all over the US in a couple years. If I have to drive to Maine or Cally, it's not a big deal just a big road trip with truck and trailer.. Thanks again guys for your help and support!!

      Truly sorry for the Carfax VIN mixup ,I didn't even know that since I've never used it personally,I think she's talking about access to the DMV info which licenced dealers have access to,but if the car is still on the street & someone else now owns it it is legally up to them to release custody/ownership of it .
      Just posted this on your behalf watson http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/...c=7691.new#new .
      2 scenarios :
      It's now just taking up space in the yard or garage = they'd most likely let you have it for a song or for free just to make space & clean up
      It's now their DD = it's got a new good home & being cared for


      Quote Originally Posted by justing1234 View Post
      nah, i "try" to stay away from that stuff but i was in class i skimmed through it. if i were, however, you wouldent be able to read a word of my writing.


      FWIW ,I re-read every thread from start to finish before I post or repost in it so that I know that I've taken the time to fully understand the whole of the situation jg .


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      11-25-2011 09:57 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by buggyman View Post


      Truly sorry for the Carfax VIN mixup ,I didn't even know that since I've never used it personally,I think she's talking about access to the DMV info which licenced dealers have access to,but if the car is still on the street & someone else now owns it it is legally up to them to release custody/ownership of it .
      Just posted this on your behalf watson http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/...c=7691.new#new .
      2 scenarios :
      It's now just taking up space in the yard or garage = they'd most likely let you have it for a song or for free just to make space & clean up
      It's now their DD = it's got a new good home & being cared for



      FWIW ,I re-read every thread from start to finish before I post or repost in it so that I know that I've taken the time to fully understand the whole of the situation jg .

      1. I didn't know either just looked it up and it gave me a error everytime and the FAQ section told me that
      2. Thanks for the post to chircoestore
      3. I hope I can find it in a garage, but wouldn't matter if I found it in the yard rusting away
      4. Finding it as a DD would be nice, for the motor would at least be running and most likely be in better shape. Only thing I fear is the scrap yard has it or someone has completly restored it and I wouldn't be about to afford it

    12. 11-26-2011 01:36 PM #12
      I remember seeing a orange SB for sale in CL here a few months ago. Owner said it was left abandoned in his yard and he didn't have a title or know the year. It looked to be a 73 or 74. Not sure what happened to it or what the VIN was. I'm about 30 minutes from Norfolk. Might be worth doing a search around here.

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      11-28-2011 10:00 AM #13
      Also after some more research the car is Brillant Orange (light orange) and Not the Amber Orange (Dark Blood Orange). Thanks for the help!!!

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      11-28-2011 03:16 PM #14
      UPDATE::::: I have tracked the car down the town of Pflugerville, TX and the gentle mans name is Spanish (Can't even begin to say it or spell it out).........Praying to the VW GODS as we speak!!!! Again thanks for all the help, even if all you did was view this thread!!!

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      11-28-2011 07:42 PM #15
      Congrats man. Hope it works out for ya...
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      11-28-2011 10:50 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by watsonst04 View Post
      UPDATE::::: I have tracked the car down the town of Pflugerville, TX and the gentle mans name is Spanish (Can't even begin to say it or spell it out).........Praying to the VW GODS as we speak!!!! Again thanks for all the help, even if all you did was view this thread!!!
      so glad that I could view it, and that's awesome man,

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      11-28-2011 10:51 PM #17
      Well today I got a address for the bug. I took off work early and headed South . When I got there the house was empty duplex. I went to the neighbor and ask for some info. He had lived there for 20 years and the couple had lived there for 7 years. He never recall seeing a VW bug, but he was pretty old. He also told me they just moved to California the day before Thanksgiving . The good thing is that the guy is sure they havent had a bug for a couple years, so they must have sold it to someone in there area as a project car for it hasn't been registered again. So I left a message for the landlord to call me to get there phone number. Also while I was there I called the local junkyards and they ran the Texas wide VIN search and it hasn't been sent to the junkyard (thats good). Ida or Torring registered the car in 2008, so sometime beween 2008 and 2010 they had the car. I was pretty disapointed to drive all the way there and not find the car, but I have other ideas to track them down. I'm going to send them a letter, which I know will get forwarded to there new address or the post office will kick it back with there address on it, so then I can write them and get into contact with them. Here's there info if it helps....

      Ida Margrethe
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      11-28-2011 10:56 PM #18
      the hell kind of a town name is Pflugerville?
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      Quote Originally Posted by justing1234 View Post
      the hell kind of a town name is Pflugerville?
      Its just one of the sub towns around Austin, TX.....

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      11-29-2011 05:24 PM #21
      howdy

      just stumbled here
      I assume your brother is Chris?

      I have a few bits of info that may help

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      11-29-2011 11:27 PM #23
      Well thanks to abeR, I have tracked down the people. They sold the car 2 years ago in Watsonville, CA. The guys mother lived there and seen the car everyday until about a year ago when she moved. The guy is trying to find out the information to the guy he sold it to. Does anyone live near Watsonville, CA? The mother said the car is off Freedom Blvd between Watsonville and Aptos. She also said the address 5417 Freedom Blvd is close if not the address where the car is. If someone in the area can swing by there I'm make sure it's there, I'll make it worth your trip for sure.... Again thanks abeR for the help. You have made a huge difference in the search and for that your my hero!!

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      11-30-2011 02:46 AM #24

      Quote Originally Posted by watsonst04 View Post
      Well thanks to abeR, I have tracked down the people. They sold the car 2 years ago in Watsonville, CA. The guys mother lived there and seen the car everyday until about a year ago when she moved. The guy is trying to find out the information to the guy he sold it to. Does anyone live near Watsonville, CA? The mother said the car is off Freedom Blvd between Watsonville and Aptos. She also said the address 5417 Freedom Blvd is close if not the address where the car is. If someone in the area can swing by there I'm make sure it's there, I'll make it worth your trip for sure.... Again thanks abeR for the help. You have made a huge difference in the search and for that your my hero!!
      OK,this is gettin' reeeeaaallll good ,the closest person to Watsonville I personally know is Volksdragen http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/...p?topic=4449.0 who lives ~200 miles away(south off HWY101) near Santa Maria,& IIRC stealth67vw http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...1#post74200486 on here at least used to live in the southern San Francisco area which is a heckofalot closer to Watsonville(~90 miles to the north),both have gobs of VW club contacts in the Central Cali coastal area .
      I just IM'd Volksdragen on http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/smf/index.php on your behalf .


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      11-30-2011 10:45 AM #25
      try google street maps in that area.


      http://maps.google.com/maps?q=5417+F...A&z=17&iwloc=A
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      Quote Originally Posted by buggyman View Post



      OK,this is gettin' reeeeaaallll good ,the closest person to Watsonville I personally know is Volksdragen http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/...p?topic=4449.0 who lives ~200 miles away(south off HWY101) near Santa Maria,& IIRC stealth67vw http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...1#post74200486 on here at least used to live in the southern San Francisco area which is a heckofalot closer to Watsonville(~90 miles to the north),both have gobs of VW club contacts in the Central Cali coastal area .
      I just IM'd Volksdragen on http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/smf/index.php on your behalf .

      & just got a look at his response,he's gonna check a verrrry similar car that's been just parked ~a 1/2 mile away from him & if that's not it check with his club buds in the area to spread the werd .


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      Did you just quote yourself.
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    28. 12-01-2011 02:27 AM #28
      Watson.....your car is in Watsonville. Go figure
      You should have looked there first Good luck. Sounds like you might find it.
      If they want to sell it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by buggyman View Post



      & just got a look at his response,he's gonna check a verrrry similar car that's been just parked ~a 1/2 mile away from him & if that's not it check with his club buds in the area to spread the werd .

      "Why,yes,yes I did"

      Quote Originally Posted by LooseNuts View Post
      Did you just quote yourself.
      "Why,yes,yes I did"

      "If they want to sell it."
      "Already quoted"
      "Originally Posted by buggyman
      Truly sorry for the Carfax VIN mixup ,I didn't even know that since I've never used it personally,I think she's talking about access to the DMV info which licenced dealers have access to,but if the car is still on the street & someone else now owns it it is legally up to them to release custody/ownership of it ."
      "It's now their DD = it's got a new good home & being cared for"
      "Why,yes,yes I did"

      "FWIW ,I re-read every thread from start to finish before I post or repost in it so that I know that I've taken the time to fully understand the whole of the situation jg ."
      "Why,yes,yes I did"

      " "

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      Quote Originally Posted by buggyman View Post



      & just got a look at his response,he's gonna check a verrrry similar car that's been just parked ~a 1/2 mile away from him & if that's not it check with his club buds in the area to spread the werd .

      Thanks man. I also found someone (Tomandante) that lives in Wastonville and says he will drive by the best address I have and the area around it. 1.5 years ago it was just sitting there, hopefully it still is...CROSS YOUR FINGERS!!!

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      Did you just quote yourself.
      LOL...That's pretty funny

      Quote Originally Posted by air skooled View Post
      Watson.....your car is in Watsonville. Go figure
      You should have looked there first Good luck. Sounds like you might find it.
      If they want to sell it.
      When the PO told me that, I was like can your spell that out? Just couldn't believe it was sold in Watsonville, CA. I honestly though it would still be the TX, but sounds like I have a 1,724 mile or 28 hrs road trip in the future (According to Mapquest.com, which I have beaten several times)....

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      12-01-2011 01:19 PM #31
      I called the PO again that sold the car in Watsonville. I'm trying to get more info on the exact location (Color of house, behind a fence, etc), but everytime she says I'll have to ask her mother (She's the one that seen it last) and never calls me back . I feel like I'm soo close and if they would just help a little I would be closer. I'm not asking the world or anything (Heck I told her I would give her a reward). I guess they don't care nor like money!! I wish I had enough money to fly up there and scout it out, but that could be a week, just can't leave everything behind like that. Hopefully Tomandante will give me some good news soon. Days like this just make me want to buy a local VW and rebuild it as a rep and call it a day. I've worked so hard with so much time and money has been invested.
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      I really hope this works out for you. Good luck!

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      12-01-2011 01:39 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Rabid Irish View Post
      I really hope this works out for you. Good luck!
      Thanks man...I need all the luck I can get.

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      12-01-2011 01:39 PM #34
      so you need ida's mothers #?
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      12-01-2011 05:48 PM #35
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      so you need ida's mothers #?
      I think it's actually Torrings mother, she use to live in Watsonville and he when to visit her and the car broke down so he sold it there.

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