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    Thread: Integrated Engineering's "Project 2.5L Engine Dyno" Build Up Thread

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      05-24-2012 06:32 PM #141
      the wait is gonna kill me
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      05-24-2012 06:46 PM #142
      A big plenum spacer to test what a larger plenum volume will do is in the printer right now... Getting there though- we've been working on this for quite a while as you can tell.
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      05-24-2012 06:47 PM #143
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post
      I know- sorry! We've been slaving away testing intake manifold stuff, Obviously we are working on a cast 2.5L intake manifold.

      Wow! an intake manifold that doesn't look like a newspaper mailbox.
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      05-24-2012 06:57 PM #144
      Quote Originally Posted by HollisJoy View Post
      Wow! an intake manifold that doesn't look like a newspaper mailbox.
      its so sexy....me want
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      05-24-2012 09:33 PM #147
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      The 2.5L forum is full of high hopes and huge disappointment.
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      05-24-2012 09:39 PM #148
      Manifold looks awesome! Cast design?

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      05-24-2012 09:46 PM #149
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post

      I do promise that we have some very interesting stuff coming here soon- we haven't been able to test any other power related stuff while we are doing this as it would invalidate any future comparisons, so it's pretty much on lock. However, let's just say that after this, the cylinder head needs to come apart... To make room for more LIFT.
      Totaly understandable, pretty sick you guys are making a cast manifold. Didnt think anyone really did that except fot exhaust manis. Never even seen a cast intake mani I dont think. While Im very interested in seeing the final product, Im actually waiting to see some of the other things you guys might be working on not power related (lightweight idlers/pulleys or more engine dress up type things). Hearing about cams tho is just a tease since weve all heard before from other companies they were making them but it never panned out. I have no doubt you guys will deliver tho, THAT I cant wait for!
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    10. 05-24-2012 10:00 PM #150
      Mani looks sweet, depending on how things work out for me in the next week or two i may be able to pull the trigger on one

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      05-25-2012 10:57 AM #151
      So throwing a bread box on some random length runners isn't a good idea?

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      05-25-2012 07:29 PM #152
      Any chance there will be a version that will fit the mkvi jetta with the p/s pump?

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      05-25-2012 07:33 PM #153
      Still up in the air at the moment. However, it's not looking likely. I'd have to bastardize it pretty well to do that.
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      05-25-2012 10:14 PM #154
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post
      Still up in the air at the moment. However, it's not looking likely. I'd have to bastardize it pretty well to do that.
      VW did not make life easy for us MKVI Jetta owners...

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      05-25-2012 11:07 PM #155
      Quote Originally Posted by Spartan8 View Post
      VW did not make life easy for us MKVI Jetta owners...
      Agreed

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      05-26-2012 01:42 PM #156
      Quote Originally Posted by Fendermender View Post
      Agreed

      For sure... I was wondering what it would take to put the electric P/S rack into those, to be honest.
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      05-26-2012 02:21 PM #157
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post
      For sure... I was wondering what it would take to put the electric P/S rack into those, to be honest.
      That was My idea for mk6 owners too...should be somewhat simple.

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      C2 stage 2 TURBO!!! ACHTUNG!!! 2.5liter 5cylinder contents under pressure!!!

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      05-26-2012 03:18 PM #158
      Quote Originally Posted by tay272 View Post
      Totaly understandable, pretty sick you guys are making a cast manifold. Didnt think anyone really did that except fot exhaust manis. Never even seen a cast intake mani I dont think. While Im very interested in seeing the final product, Im actually waiting to see some of the other things you guys might be working on not power related (lightweight idlers/pulleys or more engine dress up type things). Hearing about cams tho is just a tease since weve all heard before from other companies they were making them but it never panned out. I have no doubt you guys will deliver tho, THAT I cant wait for!
      HPA vr6 manis are cast, there are cast clones of those, cast intake manifolds for 1.8t, brothers ms3 has cast intake manifold. I would rather have cast honestly.. Don't have rely on someone else's welds holding up. Just have to make sure the plenum and runners are free from cast spatter that can come of and destroy your head, just like some people have had happen using the HPA clone manifold..
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      05-26-2012 04:29 PM #159
      95% or more of the world's automotive intake manifolds are cast aluminum... Plastic is a new thing- works well if you are making a zillion of them... Lower production stuff will almost always be cast aluminum though- even the TT-RS went that way.
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      05-26-2012 06:16 PM #160
      Guess I shoulda phrased that differently. I havent seen many aftermarket intake manis that were cast. Usually theyre welded together. Ive seen plenty of stock manifolds that are cast tho.
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      05-26-2012 07:25 PM #161
      Oh ya- well, the price of admission is a lot higher, and so is the level of engineering / testing / prototyping required to get a decent casting done. However, it lets you build shapes and such that are not possible with welding unless you are talking about welding together very expensive billet parts (3d contouring work, etc).

      Here's the 1.8T one we are releasing in about a week...



      Very excited to be working on the 5 cylinder one... Especially because it does not have to be modular haha- what a pain in the butt that was.
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      05-26-2012 07:40 PM #162
      This is going to be awesome...better heat dissipation too I'd imagine

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      05-26-2012 09:29 PM #163
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post
      Oh ya- well, the price of admission is a lot higher, and so is the level of engineering / testing / prototyping required to get a decent casting done. However, it lets you build shapes and such that are not possible with welding unless you are talking about welding together very expensive billet parts (3d contouring work, etc).

      Here's the 1.8T one we are releasing in about a week...



      Very excited to be working on the 5 cylinder one... Especially because it does not have to be modular haha- what a pain in the butt that was.
      I say make it and release it. I know have to wait and see the price of this before I pull the trigger on the c2 manifold I was getting ready to pickup off my buddy trying to sell his car.
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      05-27-2012 11:45 PM #164
      OMG that manifold is beautiful!

      Please tell me there's a 24v VR one in the works.

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      05-28-2012 12:40 AM #165
      A+++ thread

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      05-28-2012 10:53 AM #166
      If you make it. Just make sure your billet fuel rail is compatible without modification
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      05-28-2012 02:47 PM #167
      Also, it looks as though the manifold has the "bend" in it to accommodate factory TB placement, if this actually the case? I'm assuming you guys are planning to make it as simple to install as possible retaining mostly OEM fitment?

    28. 05-28-2012 06:40 PM #168
      I am very impressed keep up the great work!

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      05-29-2012 12:35 AM #169
      Quote Originally Posted by lessthanalex View Post
      Also, it looks as though the manifold has the "bend" in it to accommodate factory TB placement, if this actually the case? I'm assuming you guys are planning to make it as simple to install as possible retaining mostly OEM fitment?
      It's bent towards the OE throttle spot- couldn't get quite all the way there without seriously screwing up the airflow, and we don't want to leave any performance on the table.

      Anybody here going to Wuste? We're going to have some prototype parts at our booth...
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      05-29-2012 12:39 AM #170
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post
      It's bent towards the OE throttle spot- couldn't get quite all the way there without seriously screwing up the airflow, and we don't want to leave any performance on the table.

      Anybody here going to Wuste? We're going to have some prototype parts at our booth...
      If you want to donate those parts to my car I'll go
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      05-29-2012 12:57 AM #171
      Quote Originally Posted by pete@integrated View Post
      It's bent towards the OE throttle spot- couldn't get quite all the way there without seriously screwing up the airflow, and we don't want to leave any performance on the table.

      Anybody here going to Wuste? We're going to have some prototype parts at our booth...
      Okay, sounds good. What have you been doing for an intake on it? Just a filter connected to the maf and tb? If this is the case, what does the airflow look like compared to a stock CAI type intake?

    32. 05-29-2012 12:37 PM #172
      Would you guys sell plastic ones? it would keep the costs down would it not? clearly plastic manifolds are more than strong enough for NA applications, heck even tsi manifolds are plastic..

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      05-29-2012 12:43 PM #174
      Quote Originally Posted by MaxVW View Post
      Would you guys sell plastic ones? it would keep the costs down would it not? clearly plastic manifolds are more than strong enough for NA applications, heck even tsi manifolds are plastic..
      I would probably buy one. The one Unitronic was supposedly gonna make was gonn be made of composite material iirc. Could be wrong tho, don't really care what that company is doing these days ha
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      Great work guys.
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