Integrated Engineering's "Project 2.5L Engine Dyno" Build Up Thread

[SilverJetta2.5]

the wait is gonna kill me

[pete@integrated]

A big plenum spacer to test what a larger plenum volume will do is in the printer right now... Getting there though- we've been working on this for quite a while as you can tell.

[HollisJoy]

I know- sorry! We've been slaving away testing intake manifold stuff, Obviously we are working on a cast 2.5L intake manifold.

Wow! an intake manifold that doesn't look like a newspaper mailbox.

[SilverJetta2.5]

Wow! an intake manifold that doesn't look like a newspaper mailbox.

its so sexy....me want

[The*Fall*Guy]

Subd

[pennsydubbin]

in for results and "go fast" parts

[H3LVTCA]

PM'd!

[TylerO28]

Manifold looks awesome! Cast design?

Sent from the bottomless pits of HELL!

[tay272]

I do promise that we have some very interesting stuff coming here soon- we haven't been able to test any other power related stuff while we are doing this as it would invalidate any future comparisons, so it's pretty much on lock. However, let's just say that after this, the cylinder head needs to come apart... To make room for more LIFT.

Totaly understandable, pretty sick you guys are making a cast manifold. Didnt think anyone really did that except fot exhaust manis. Never even seen a cast intake mani I dont think. While Im very interested in seeing the final product, Im actually waiting to see some of the other things you guys might be working on not power related (lightweight idlers/pulleys or more engine dress up type things). Hearing about cams tho is just a tease since weve all heard before from other companies they were making them but it never panned out. I have no doubt you guys will deliver tho, THAT I cant wait for!

[DerekH]

Mani looks sweet, depending on how things work out for me in the next week or two i may be able to pull the trigger on one

[DarkSideGTI]

So throwing a bread box on some random length runners isn't a good idea?

[Fendermender]

Any chance there will be a version that will fit the mkvi jetta with the p/s pump?

[pete@integrated]

Still up in the air at the moment. However, it's not looking likely. I'd have to bastardize it pretty well to do that.

[Spartan8]

Still up in the air at the moment. However, it's not looking likely. I'd have to bastardize it pretty well to do that.

VW did not make life easy for us MKVI Jetta owners...

[Fendermender]

VW did not make life easy for us MKVI Jetta owners...

Agreed

[pete@integrated]

Agreed

For sure... I was wondering what it would take to put the electric P/S rack into those, to be honest.

[TylerO28]

For sure... I was wondering what it would take to put the electric P/S rack into those, to be honest.

That was My idea for mk6 owners too...should be somewhat simple.

Sent from the bottomless pits of HELL!

[kevin FaKiN spLits]

Totaly understandable, pretty sick you guys are making a cast manifold. Didnt think anyone really did that except fot exhaust manis. Never even seen a cast intake mani I dont think. While Im very interested in seeing the final product, Im actually waiting to see some of the other things you guys might be working on not power related (lightweight idlers/pulleys or more engine dress up type things). Hearing about cams tho is just a tease since weve all heard before from other companies they were making them but it never panned out. I have no doubt you guys will deliver tho, THAT I cant wait for!

HPA vr6 manis are cast, there are cast clones of those, cast intake manifolds for 1.8t, brothers ms3 has cast intake manifold. I would rather have cast honestly.. Don't have rely on someone else's welds holding up. Just have to make sure the plenum and runners are free from cast spatter that can come of and destroy your head, just like some people have had happen using the HPA clone manifold..

[pete@integrated]

95% or more of the world's automotive intake manifolds are cast aluminum... Plastic is a new thing- works well if you are making a zillion of them... Lower production stuff will almost always be cast aluminum though- even the TT-RS went that way.

[tay272]

Guess I shoulda phrased that differently. I havent seen many aftermarket intake manis that were cast. Usually theyre welded together. Ive seen plenty of stock manifolds that are cast tho.

[pete@integrated]

Oh ya- well, the price of admission is a lot higher, and so is the level of engineering / testing / prototyping required to get a decent casting done. However, it lets you build shapes and such that are not possible with welding unless you are talking about welding together very expensive billet parts (3d contouring work, etc).

Here's the 1.8T one we are releasing in about a week...



Very excited to be working on the 5 cylinder one... Especially because it does not have to be modular haha- what a pain in the butt that was.

[TylerO28]

This is going to be awesome...better heat dissipation too I'd imagine

Sent from the bottomless pits of HELL!

[kevin FaKiN spLits]

Oh ya- well, the price of admission is a lot higher, and so is the level of engineering / testing / prototyping required to get a decent casting done. However, it lets you build shapes and such that are not possible with welding unless you are talking about welding together very expensive billet parts (3d contouring work, etc).

Here's the 1.8T one we are releasing in about a week...



Very excited to be working on the 5 cylinder one... Especially because it does not have to be modular haha- what a pain in the butt that was.

I say make it and release it. I know have to wait and see the price of this before I pull the trigger on the c2 manifold I was getting ready to pickup off my buddy trying to sell his car.

[DannyLo]

OMG that manifold is beautiful!

Please tell me there's a 24v VR one in the works.

[cbs_24]

A+++ thread

[kevin FaKiN spLits]

If you make it. Just make sure your billet fuel rail is compatible without modification

[lessthanalex]

Also, it looks as though the manifold has the "bend" in it to accommodate factory TB placement, if this actually the case? I'm assuming you guys are planning to make it as simple to install as possible retaining mostly OEM fitment?

[MaxVW]

I am very impressed keep up the great work!

[pete@integrated]

Also, it looks as though the manifold has the "bend" in it to accommodate factory TB placement, if this actually the case? I'm assuming you guys are planning to make it as simple to install as possible retaining mostly OEM fitment?

It's bent towards the OE throttle spot- couldn't get quite all the way there without seriously screwing up the airflow, and we don't want to leave any performance on the table.

Anybody here going to Wuste? We're going to have some prototype parts at our booth...

[kevin FaKiN spLits]

It's bent towards the OE throttle spot- couldn't get quite all the way there without seriously screwing up the airflow, and we don't want to leave any performance on the table.

Anybody here going to Wuste? We're going to have some prototype parts at our booth...

If you want to donate those parts to my car I'll go

[lessthanalex]

It's bent towards the OE throttle spot- couldn't get quite all the way there without seriously screwing up the airflow, and we don't want to leave any performance on the table.

Anybody here going to Wuste? We're going to have some prototype parts at our booth...

Okay, sounds good. What have you been doing for an intake on it? Just a filter connected to the maf and tb? If this is the case, what does the airflow look like compared to a stock CAI type intake?

[MaxVW]

Would you guys sell plastic ones? it would keep the costs down would it not? clearly plastic manifolds are more than strong enough for NA applications, heck even tsi manifolds are plastic..

[pete@blackforest]

Great work guys.

[kevin FaKiN spLits]

Would you guys sell plastic ones? it would keep the costs down would it not? clearly plastic manifolds are more than strong enough for NA applications, heck even tsi manifolds are plastic..

I would probably buy one. The one Unitronic was supposedly gonna make was gonn be made of composite material iirc. Could be wrong tho, don't really care what that company is doing these days ha

[M3NTAL Kev]

Great work guys.

+1

Looks like a very promising product.