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    Thread: Toyota Officially (And Finally) Reveals 2013 GT-86

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      02-09-2012 11:43 AM #1261
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      lol well who else had these type of cars back then? I'm really trying to think but I can't come up wtih any other "nation" who had affordable, reliable and sporty rwd cars for the masses.
      Hey now, we're in TCL. You should know that all Japanese cars are cheap, low quality replicas of something the Europeans(or Americans) thought of first.

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      02-09-2012 12:14 PM #1262
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      lol well who else had these type of cars back then? I'm really trying to think but I can't come up wtih any other "nation" who had affordable, reliable and sporty rwd cars for the masses.
      argreed, but you've got to admit the brits kind of started to go astray in the 70's and 80's.

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      02-09-2012 12:26 PM #1263
      The British sports cars of the 40s, 50s, and 60s were never reliable, but neither was anyone else. The 70s, and 80s featured (British) cars with terrible build quality, as well as poor reliability.
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      02-09-2012 06:22 PM #1264
      I hope we get stripped down version too
      http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/09/t...avor-in-japan/

      Toyota is offering buyers a stripper version of the company's new GT86 sports coupe. The vehicle comes as a blank canvas just waiting for your personal touch. Outside, the stock 17-inch alloy wheels are replaced with 16-inch steelies, and the bumpers, side mirrors and door handles all arrive unpainted. Don't expect to find any fog lights, either.

      Indoors, niceties like a stereo, air conditioning and even trim work around the steering wheel and shifter are nowhere to be found. Toyota even went so far as to ditch the plastic intake cover under the hood. The vehicle doesn't come with a limited-slip rear differential, but the sacrifice seems worth it to us. For starters, the GT-86 RC carries a price tag of 1.9 million Yen, or $24,601 at current conversion rates. That's significantly less than the standard model. Then there's the fact that the RC weighs nearly 100 pounds less than the base GT-86.

      Sadly, we doubt either Scion or Subaru will offer a similarly stripped-down version of their respective FR-S or BRZ models, though history disagrees with us. Scion did, in fact, offer a stripper version of the tC back in 2007 called the tC Spec Package.

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      02-09-2012 07:26 PM #1265
      Quote Originally Posted by choochoo View Post
      I hope we get stripped down version too
      http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/09/t...avor-in-japan/
      Most of this makes sense, but some is extreme.

      It looks like they removed the plastic cover over the passenger side airbag area in the dash. WTF? Who modifies that? Also, the unpainted bumpers are a bit silly, IMO. They should have just done the whole car in primer, or painted the entire car. Do THAT many people, even those into modify, completely replace both bumpers soon enough to leave them unpainted? What was the net weight and cost savings of painting the rest of the car, but not the bumpers?

      Finally, the no A/C thing is stupid and a deal breaker. I realize the general benefits of doing so, but if i were in the market for this car, the no A/C thing would be the only deal breaker on the list.


      Everything else, though, bravo!
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      02-09-2012 07:27 PM #1266
      Steelies? Oh god, wait until the dubbers get wind of this.

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      02-09-2012 07:31 PM #1267
      Nobody buys the stripper models. How many spec tCs do you see running around?
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      02-09-2012 07:40 PM #1268
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      Most of this makes sense, but some is extreme.

      It looks like they removed the plastic cover over the passenger side airbag area in the dash. WTF? Who modifies that? Also, the unpainted bumpers are a bit silly, IMO. They should have just done the whole car in primer, or painted the entire car. Do THAT many people, even those into modify, completely replace both bumpers soon enough to leave them unpainted? What was the net weight and cost savings of painting the rest of the car, but not the bumpers?

      Finally, the no A/C thing is stupid and a deal breaker. I realize the general benefits of doing so, but if i were in the market for this car, the no A/C thing would be the only deal breaker on the list.


      Everything else, though, bravo!
      Whoever buys that version is most likely buying it for heavy modification, not for comforts like A/C. If that's a deal breaker, they'd be more than happy to sell you a model with painted bumpers, full interior and A/C. Don't hate the stripped model for being stripped.

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      02-09-2012 07:47 PM #1269
      My guess is that they're using the stripper version to target people who are only going to use it as a dedicated track car and not to poor students.
      The only scion TC's I've seen at a track are these


      And there isn't much scion TC about those two besides the name (one of them's not even fwd)
      The FRS is going to bring Scion to another level in terms of grassroots motorsport credibility. I can see toyota sponsoring a one make race series like what Mazda's done with the MX5.

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      02-09-2012 08:19 PM #1270
      So if Toyota is supposed to supply everyone with the appliances, Lexus is supposed to supply luxury performance, and Scion is supposed to supply affordable sports cars...then does that mean there's no chance of ever bringing back the Supra? Don't see where it could fit in with any company atm..

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      02-09-2012 08:23 PM #1271
      Sort of weird on that stripper model that they took off paneling in the dash... They'd might as well have gone the whole 9 on the thing and taken out the carpets and so on.

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      02-09-2012 08:37 PM #1272
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      Chris Harris is just the man. What he said at the end about how Toyota is focusing on the driver and not the machine is so true and is what I love about this car. Back to the 80's/90's sports car philosphy that the Japanese pioneered.
      I'd like to point out that this is the same guy who declared the Miata "boring" and "pants" for having exactly the same attributes. This is a fun review, but take his impressions with a huge grain of salt.
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    13. 02-10-2012 12:22 PM #1273
      Uh, spring is a few weeks away, they are taking orders - WTH is the pricing?

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      02-10-2012 12:25 PM #1274
      Quote Originally Posted by Corbic View Post
      Uh, spring is a few weeks away, they are taking orders - WTH is the pricing?
      If they were proud of how it's priced, they'd be yelling it from the mountaintops. The longer the wait, the more likely that it's bad news.
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      02-10-2012 12:26 PM #1275
      They look like revised Nissan Z-cars to my eyes.
      Quote Originally Posted by Kyle C
      The world runs on marketing, and in the case of winter tires Subaru has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that any round, rubber-ish object that holds a bit of air and passes as a tire will get you through the snow just fine, but only if it is attached to a vehicle with AWD/4WD.

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      02-10-2012 12:27 PM #1276
      Quote Originally Posted by variancevq View Post
      nobody buys the stripper models. How many spec tcs do you see running around?
      fwd =/ rwd
      Quote Originally Posted by Kyle C
      The world runs on marketing, and in the case of winter tires Subaru has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that any round, rubber-ish object that holds a bit of air and passes as a tire will get you through the snow just fine, but only if it is attached to a vehicle with AWD/4WD.

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      02-10-2012 12:33 PM #1277
      Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
      If they were proud of how it's priced, they'd be yelling it from the mountaintops. The longer the wait, the more likely that it's bad news.
      given the continued rise of the yen.... you may be right

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      02-10-2012 06:15 PM #1278
      It looks like JDM pricing is out.

      http://www.tune86.com/ft-86-news/175...-price-details

      Subaru has released special BRZ websites in Japanese, showing off the car specifications a bit more. Package grades and pricing have also been released. BRZ S being the top luxurious model, type R - normal (or reduced), type RA - the low cost model with absolutely no extras, only manual transmission, for the tuners and racers.

      Pricing:

      BRZ Type S
      6MT manual: 2.793.000 JPY
      E-6AT automatic: 2.871.750 JPY

      BRZ Type R
      6MT manual: 2.478.000 JPY
      E-6AT automatic: 2.546.250 JPY

      BRZ Type RA only manual gearbox
      6MT: 2.058.000 JPY

      Torsen LSD is only equipped on type S, and type R as an option.
      Brakes are also better on type S - 16inch front ventilated and 15in rear ventilated. Weight starts at 1190kg for RA model and BRZ-S automatic being the heaviest at 1250kg.
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      02-10-2012 06:39 PM #1279
      that doesn't look too bad. I looked up what a WRX STI costs in Japan and compared with the US STI. It's 3685000 yen vs. $34,095USD. So, if you go by that conversion factor, the pricing is right in the ballpark of what they've been saying all along. Around $25K. If that's the case, and that's a big "IF", then they should be selling just fine.

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      02-10-2012 06:42 PM #1280
      Quote Originally Posted by TigerinColorado View Post
      fwd =/ rwd
      I'm aware of that...
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    21. 02-10-2012 06:43 PM #1281
      Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
      If they were proud of how it's priced, they'd be yelling it from the mountaintops. The longer the wait, the more likely that it's bad news.
      Now you've done it...
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      You're a self-serving Japanese car-hating asshat.
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    22. 02-15-2012 02:03 PM #1283
      Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
      If they were proud of how it's priced, they'd be yelling it from the mountaintops. The longer the wait, the more likely that it's bad news.
      That is what I'm thinking. We'll see the pricing at the showroom and end of the MT review.

    23. 02-15-2012 02:04 PM #1284
      Quote Originally Posted by choochoo View Post
      that doesn't look too bad. I looked up what a WRX STI costs in Japan and compared with the US STI. It's 3685000 yen vs. $34,095USD. So, if you go by that conversion factor, the pricing is right in the ballpark of what they've been saying all along. Around $25K. If that's the case, and that's a big "IF", then they should be selling just fine.
      JDM STi =/ USDM STi

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      02-15-2012 02:43 PM #1285
      Quote Originally Posted by Corbic View Post
      JDM STi =/ USDM STi
      You're absolutely right, but that was the closest comparison I could find. Also, that's why I put a big "IF".

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      02-28-2012 09:32 PM #1286
      HKS 86 going at Tsukuba

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      02-28-2012 09:38 PM #1287
      An FR-S posing next to a GT-R. Also featuring a full load of tires and tools.









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    27. 02-28-2012 09:58 PM #1288
      ....price

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      02-28-2012 10:11 PM #1289
      I like this, too bad they didnt paint the bumpers!

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      02-28-2012 11:31 PM #1290
      Quote Originally Posted by Corbic View Post
      ....price
      Bet on 24,899. Rumors have 27,500 for manual in Canada almost confirmed. 1500 fr/pdi/admin.

      Bout 1K more than a base 2.0 GC manual (no lsd).

      I paid that much for a new Jetta in 02. I can live with that.

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      03-01-2012 06:01 PM #1291
      Quote Originally Posted by choochoo View Post
      HKS 86 going at Tsukuba
      apparently with just mild mods, the HKS 86 posted the same times as the supra, m3 csl, 350, 370z, nsx. I guess this thing is the real deal.
      so it goes... ಠ_ಠ

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      03-01-2012 06:18 PM #1292
      Quote Originally Posted by choochoo View Post
      HKS 86 going at Tsukuba
      Love seeing the car driven as fast as possible as opposed to sideways.

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      03-06-2012 08:36 PM #1293
      So we have a first official 0-60 time and weight from the Geneva Auto Show.


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      03-06-2012 08:57 PM #1294
      I've seen published numbers showing 7.6/8.2 for manual/auto. Motortrend predicts it will be 6.2~

      It's all over the map. A SI does around 6.5 as a fwd so I'd expect around that. Remember that 0-100 is 0-62ish and may or may not have had a 3rd shift.

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      03-06-2012 09:05 PM #1295
      Weight looks promising. I expected 200lbs heavier.

      Now for price.

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