However, I did recently get a group of Datsun guys together from the 311s Forums and we had a great fun run in August...described on the 311s.org Forums and also here:
You meet nice people in Datsuns!
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Everything Michael does at Spriso Motorsports is over-the-top quality from what I have seen. I still hope to find a buildable Datsun to bring him and let him work his magic over time.
Meanwhile, DiamondDave, if you take a road trip south into NorCal, come on by the garage and you can test drive the Latigo or anything else in the garage. As the Datsun guys will tell you, I come from an very humble background, so I love to share my cars with other true car guys!
In answer to your overall question, I own it because it is unusual and one of a kind and beautiful and a blast to drive. You got a problem with that?
Moreover, your last sentence does not jive with your first one. If in fact you allow that everyone has their own taste and is entitled to enjoy whatever car they want (the last sentence), then why pass judgement by virtue of your first sentence? I love all cars and have never passed judgement on a fellow car enthusiast whether he likes Porsche or VW, Ferrari or Fiat, Corvette or Mopar, Datsun or Honda. So what I don't understand is folks who need to put others down to feel better about their own car choice. I thought you were better than that...
And finally, if you really think you have a better car, then let's go have a friendly day at the track and I will happily will race you to show you why this is a terrific car. Any track, any day.
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People aren't always going to agree with you. For every car I've owned, there have been threads on TCL praising them, and threads on TCL trashing them. I don't let it bother me.
As for our Cayman connection, great. We have 1 thing in common. Doesn't mean we will have everything in common. We can agree on some things, and disagree on others. It happens.
I'm not a Fisker fan, but moreover I'm not a modern coachbuilder fan. Taking a car that someone else designed, engineered, etc, and throwing some new body panels and better leather at it, just doesn't do it for me. To be specific, your Fisker is designed to look like an 8 series. He didn't work any magic, he just took a coupe from BMW's past that people love, and made their current abortion look like it. Super.
As for your pissing contest challenge...like i said. Grow up.
PS. When you buddy Fisker pays back his loan to the US tax payers, and actually releases this Spruce Goose hybrid he's been working on, on our dime...I'll consider elevating him to the demi god status you hold him at. Though let's be honest, you're a tad biased.
Last edited by SVTJayC; 10-07-2012 at 03:22 PM.
I have tried to be somewhat respectful and helpful. I said that IF you drove and saw this car you wouldn't feel that way. My offer to meet you on track was just an offer: I said you would see why it was a great car... I didn't say "better than yours", now did I? I tried to choose my words carefully. You have seen it as a pissing contest, but I just like race tracks. I believe they are the ultimate place to evaluate a car's worth, more so than looking at them curb-side. But you don't like that so now you decide you need to put me down in any way you can and insult me yet again? Luckily, I have thick skin that comes from actually being quite grown up, thank you very much. I'm happy with my car that you don't like. Sorry I can't change your mind. Meanwhile, try to apply your own standard for allowing dissenting opinion, and maybe consider being a nicer person. Just my 2-cents for your personal self-improvement consideration.
Hopefully nobody else out there was quite so offended by my remarks. My apologies to any of those other folks in TCL land. Good luck to you all !
But Seriously Folks...
The track IS in fact the ultimate place to judge a car's performance. It is not however, necessary to be at a track to judge the appearance, heritage, creator's shady business practices, etc.
And btw...how is THIS line of yours, not a pissing contest? Perhaps it's not how you meant it, but it definitely came across as "challenge-esque".
"And finally, if you really think you have a better car, then let's go have a friendly day at the track and I will happily will race you to show you why this is a terrific car. Any track, any day."
Anyway, I think the rest of your cars are great, and I'm glad to see someone spend their money on things they love and enjoy rather then just let it sit in the bank. Life is short, and if you can't enjoy the fruits of your labor, what's the point?
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"I can appreciate the time and effort to make that car, but I really hate the way it looks and I think it is overpriced" (opinion) and...
"What would compel anyone to buy that...parts bin car?" (insult....and also a question, which I answered, but you didn't like my answer)
And I can take anything anyone can dish out, EXCEPT being accused of being a democrat. You've crossed the line now.
As to your other point, that's just it. I DO NOT appreciate the time and effort it took to make this particular car. It's pretty obvious his intention was to build a modern 850 coupe. He took a car that itself was designed to be a modern 850, but wildly missed the mark looks wise, and he made it look much better. He didn't solve any engineering problems, or make any groundbreaking strides. He just did the "fun" part. He bought the Browns, moved them to Baltimore, and won a Super Bowl with a team Cleveland built. I dunno, it almost feels like automotive plagiarism to me. This guy can claim it's a "Fisker xyz" all he wants, it's not. It's a BMW. Somewhere there is an Obama "You didn't build that" meme in here.
I don't think it's overpriced though (I actually have no idea what they cost other than more than a regular M6). Whatever people will pay for something, is what the price is, and what people spend their money on is their business. I just happen to disagree.
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