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    Thread: Jeep Liberty is Now Such a Hot-Seller No Plant Shutdown Scheduled for End of Year

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      12-12-2011 09:31 PM #1
      I don't know what kind of voodoo Fiat/Chrysler has up it's collective sleeve, but hot sales of the Jeep Liberty (and Wrangler) has the Toledo, OH factory where they are made skipping the usual year end shutdown. The Liberty and Wrangler factory will be the only domestic plant in the US still in production at the end of the year!



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      http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/12/s...plant-running/

      According to Automotive News, no other plant operated by an American automaker will be working during the week between Christmas and New Year's Day. The Toledo plants are the only facilities building the Jeep Wrangler and Liberty, both of which are selling like hot cakes in 2011. With one month left of the year, Jeep has sold 111,045 Wranglers, up 29 percent over 2010. The Liberty, meanwhile, is up 36 percent to 60,523 units sold.
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      12-12-2011 09:32 PM #2
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      12-12-2011 09:33 PM #3
      My mom bought two Liberties... So they can thank her.
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      12-12-2011 09:36 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      My mom bought two Liberties... So they can thank her.
      Yeah, no more station-wagons, no more minivans, now this

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      12-12-2011 09:36 PM #6
      That liberty doesn't even look that bad...

      if only the mechanical bits were a bit more... efficient

      I'd rock it

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      12-12-2011 09:37 PM #7
      Liberty Rubicon is badass.
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      Station wagons are for moms and Europe.

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      12-12-2011 09:38 PM #8
      I've driven several newer Liberty and have been very happy with the quality, driveability and look of them. As far as the JK's go, no surprise there with the new motor and interior over haul!

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      12-12-2011 09:42 PM #9
      I can't wait to see how the new Liberty (most likely to return to the Cherokee name in the USA) does, with modern design, materials, and quality.

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      12-12-2011 09:47 PM #10
      ^^ Agree. Would love for them to bring back a CRD. The last Gen ones have been holding their value like crazy!

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      12-12-2011 10:30 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by someguy123 View Post
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      Seriously.

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      12-12-2011 11:04 PM #12
      My theory is that more people are realizing that the end of the world is coming next December and they need a capable vehicle to make their last voyage... errr... roadtrip.

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      12-12-2011 11:05 PM #13
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      Liberty Rubicon is badass.
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      12-12-2011 11:10 PM #14
      I'm starting to really, really want a Wrangler Sahara Unlimited, but I don't have that kind of money to throw around. Someday, maybe...
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    15. 12-12-2011 11:17 PM #15
      Owned a 2008 Liberty Limited ... and returned it to the dealer.after 6 months of using it (long story about how I returned a car I've purchased but.that's for another time)

      Honesty the mileage is horrible, and mechanically wise there is plenty to improve. Ride is rough too. Out of all the vehicles I never owned or driven this one takes the cake. Donno why they sell so much...

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      12-12-2011 11:25 PM #16
      My 16 year old sister has a 2010. It's pretty nice I guess. She loves that truck.

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      12-12-2011 11:27 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by kozy04 View Post
      Owned a 2008 Liberty Limited ... and returned it to the dealer.after 6 months of using it (long story about how I returned a car I've purchased but.that's for another time)

      Honesty the mileage is horrible, and mechanically wise there is plenty to improve. Ride is rough too. Out of all the vehicles I never owned or driven this one takes the cake. Donno why they sell so much...

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      They obviously made some improvements since you bought yours.
      And lemons are lemons.
      But yeah- they are quite crappy on road SUVs imho.
      What are people buying- image? I guess the tough Jeep image still sells.
      I wonder if most buyers even consider things like ride quality.
      They just shop image and monthly payment.
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      12-12-2011 11:30 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by kozy04 View Post
      Owned a 2008 Liberty Limited ... and returned it to the dealer.after 6 months of using it (long story about how I returned a car I've purchased but.that's for another time)

      Honesty the mileage is horrible, and mechanically wise there is plenty to improve. Ride is rough too. Out of all the vehicles I never owned or driven this one takes the cake. Donno why they sell so much...
      What did you expect...?

      They sell because there is no other vehicle like them available. First off it's the only convertible for under $75k a guy can drive while still feeling somewhat manly, it has incredible off-road prowess, the largest aftermarket of ANY vehicle, and girls love them too. The roof comes off, the doors come off, it's easy to maintain, yada yada. I had two YJ's I had to sell when I moved to the city and I miss them all the time.

      Yeah they get piss poor mileage and they handle like doo-doo but they're awesome vehicles

      I'm sure they're at capacity thanks moreso to the Wrangler and less the Liberty... with the 2012 model updates they're probably selling to all those people who passed up a 2011 to wait, on top of normal buyers.
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      12-12-2011 11:35 PM #19
      I'm in the minority, but I always liked the looks of the Nitro over the Liberty.

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      12-12-2011 11:38 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by rconn14 View Post
      First off it's the only convertible for under $75k a guy can drive while still feeling somewhat manly.
      Nope. I don't know about you but I'd still feel pretty manly in a Camaro SS/ZL1, Mustang GT/GT500, or Corvette base/GS vert. Just saying.

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      12-13-2011 12:09 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by JustinCSVT View Post
      Nope. I don't know about you but I'd still feel pretty manly in a Camaro SS/ZL1, Mustang GT/GT500, or Corvette base/GS vert. Just saying.
      Yeah, but you'd feel manlier in a coupe

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      12-13-2011 09:21 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by rconn14 View Post
      What did you expect...?

      They sell because there is no other vehicle like them available. First off it's the only convertible for under $75k a guy can drive while still feeling somewhat manly, it has incredible off-road prowess, the largest aftermarket of ANY vehicle, and girls love them too. The roof comes off, the doors come off, it's easy to maintain, yada yada. I had two YJ's I had to sell when I moved to the city and I miss them all the time.

      Yeah they get piss poor mileage and they handle like doo-doo but they're awesome vehicles
      You realize that he is talking about the Liberty, right? That is truly a POS. No matter how many 'Rubicon' stickers they slap on it.

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      12-13-2011 09:26 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by morecarsthanbrains View Post
      You realize that he is talking about the Liberty, right? That is truly a POS. No matter how many 'Rubicon' stickers they slap on it.
      Thats quite obviously an owner modified rig. Jeep doesn't offer a Rubicon package (Yet?) for the Liberty.

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      12-13-2011 09:36 AM #24
      it's gotta be an image thing to sell that many. my guess is people go to get a grand cherokee and realize they can't afford it so they get the closest thing they can.

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      12-13-2011 09:47 AM #25
      "POS"

      I never understood the need for this manner of descriptor. You people act as if these cars are Yugos or 80s Hyundais. Or any number of 70s-80s domestics.

      I've driven about 3 rental Liberties and...
      1) Interior - Designed fine to my eyes. The lines/forms are cohesive. It's nothing to write home about nor will it win any art school awards, but it is far from the atrocities of 80s GM or Ford. It's inoffensive and durable.

      2) Ride - It's an SUV and one from a brand that is touted to be all terrain! If you wanted smooth and not rough... get a Buick! Or better yet... stop being a cheap ass and get a GC!

      3) Mileage - You have to be kidding. It is no worse than other SUVs with similar powertrain/chassis/body formats. Get a Prius if you want mileage. Or better yet... get any number of Cute crossovers.

      I swear... anymore... it's as if people want to exaggerate complaints because that somehow is supposed to help impress upon everyone else their grand techniques of critique or something?

      Anymore... there are is no such thing as Auto Enthusiasts... just Auto Whiners.

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      12-13-2011 09:51 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
      "POS"

      I never understood the need for this manner of descriptor. You people act as if these cars are Yugos or 80s Hyundais. Or any number of 70s-80s domestics.

      I've driven about 3 rental Liberties and...
      1) Interior - Designed fine to my eyes. The lines/forms are cohesive. It's nothing to write home about nor will it win any art school awards, but it is far from the atrocities of 80s GM or Ford. It's inoffensive and durable.

      2) Ride - It's an SUV and one from a brand that is touted to be all terrain! If you wanted smooth and not rough... get a Buick! Or better yet... stop being a cheap ass and get a GC!

      3) Mileage - You have to be kidding. It is no worse than other SUVs with similar powertrain/chassis/body formats. Get a Prius if you want mileage. Or better yet... get any number of Cute crossovers.

      I swear... anymore... it's as if people want to exaggerate complaints because that somehow is supposed to help impress upon everyone else their grand techniques of critique or something?

      Anymore... there are is no such thing as Auto Enthusiasts... just Auto Whiners.
      Well said.

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      12-13-2011 10:12 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
      Anymore... there are is no such thing as Auto Enthusiasts... just Auto Whiners.
      While we're on the subject of overstatements.

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      12-13-2011 10:26 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
      Anymore... there are is no such thing as Auto Enthusiasts... just Auto Whiners.
      I agree with what you said, but this is the forum where dash-stroking comments appear in sports car threads.

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      12-13-2011 11:03 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
      "POS"

      I never understood the need for this manner of descriptor. You people act as if these cars are Yugos or 80s Hyundais. Or any number of 70s-80s domestics.

      I've driven about 3 rental Liberties and...
      1) Interior - Designed fine to my eyes. The lines/forms are cohesive. It's nothing to write home about nor will it win any art school awards, but it is far from the atrocities of 80s GM or Ford. It's inoffensive and durable.

      2) Ride - It's an SUV and one from a brand that is touted to be all terrain! If you wanted smooth and not rough... get a Buick! Or better yet... stop being a cheap ass and get a GC!

      3) Mileage - You have to be kidding. It is no worse than other SUVs with similar powertrain/chassis/body formats. Get a Prius if you want mileage. Or better yet... get any number of Cute crossovers.
      Careful. You're gonna make me go test-drive one.

      It's not a bad car at all. I think the most valid criticisms are really of its space and packaging; it's a cramped little thing. But it's really just kind of an old-school SUV - transfer case, RWD, truck motor, built for the fire roads. It's not really appropriate for the market anymore, but I think there's so much goodwill for the Jeep name and image that people tend to forgive it its rough bits.

      And there's three grand on the hood. I just priced one out pretty nicely for under $25k. Find me an Xterra that well equipped at that price.

      Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
      I swear... anymore... it's as if people want to exaggerate complaints because that somehow is supposed to help impress upon everyone else their grand techniques of critique or something?

      Anymore... there are is no such thing as Auto Enthusiasts... just Auto Whiners.
      I've noticed that too. A car isn't just uncompetitive - it's a piece of **** that calls the company's entire right to exist into question. It's not just not to your aesthetic preferences, it made you throw up a little bit in your mouth. It's not a perfectly good car that just doesn't appeal to you, it's an appliance that's only driven by stupid, illiterate sheep. And it's the same hackeyed, schooltard phrases (I meant to type schoolyard, but that was a good typo) being employed by the same unoriginal jackwagons. It's like they're trying to channel Jeremy Clarkson's reactionary knee-jerking, but don't have the bandwidth for his wit, charm, or ability to turn a phrase.
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      12-13-2011 11:19 AM #30
      I wouldn't buy a Liberty because it doesn't meet my needs, but I still find it strangely appealing.

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      This and the Escape are a mystery to me

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      12-13-2011 11:23 AM #32
      I can report with real world experience that the Liberty gets awful MPG even for what it is.

      You can blame 80% of that on the 4 speed auto.

      Regardless I still like them a lot. My only complaint is the non Limited models do not have enough lower back support.
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      12-13-2011 11:29 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      I can report with real world experience that the Liberty gets awful MPG even for what it is.
      t.
      It's rated for 22 highway- does it struggle to hit that?
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      12-13-2011 11:47 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      It's rated for 22 highway- does it struggle to hit that?
      No.

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      12-13-2011 11:51 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      You can blame 80% of that on the 4 speed auto.
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      It's rated for 22 highway- does it struggle to hit that?
      Ouch. To be fair, though, it is a brick.

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