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    Thread: **16vt Cabriolet Classic Budget Build**

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      03-29-2012 11:03 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by Jones84 View Post
      I wrapped mine on my Jetta, I went back all the way the flex pipe. Witch is just past the sway bar. About where the cat would be, that is if I was running one. lol
      It did cut down on the heat a bit..
      Is it worth it? Seems like thw work is not worh the reward.

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      03-29-2012 12:39 PM #52
      The Work?? Its not hard. Its not like you are redoing the down pipe. If it takes you more than a 1/2 hr i would be shocked.. Yes its worth it. At least I think think so. If your pipe runs close to anything like wires or brake lines you want to keep the heat off them.
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      03-29-2012 01:29 PM #53
      I agree it's a quick fix to reduce under hood temps. Easy enough to switch back if you aren't happy.
      FYI if you do it soak the wrap before it's more pliable.
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      03-29-2012 04:12 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Gear_Dog View Post
      I agree it's a quick fix to reduce under hood temps. Easy enough to switch back if you aren't happy.
      FYI if you do it soak the wrap before it's more pliable.
      Note taken.

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      04-01-2012 07:46 PM #55
      Update! Well I FINISHED the car today. Worked on it for 7 hours today and added oil and coolant, primed the Turbo, checked for leaks and did some last min instals/maintenance. See below for proper (there are several different ways yes) Turbo priming. As it sits it has no exhaust just a 2.5 dp. Exhaust will be put on as soon as tune is complete. Gunna be loud until then!

      Step 1:Add oil (4L w/filter change) +exhaust filter
      Step 2: grab a beer
      Step 3: check for leaks and inure oil feed and drain lines are tight and no kinks are found
      Step 4: unplug coil connection to distributor + pull fuel pump fuse
      Step 5:disconnect oil drain from oil pan and place catch can under line.
      Step 6: turn engine for three 15sec intervals
      Step 7: check line for oil drainage.
      *repeat step 6-7 if needed until desired oil is found

      Step 8-10 involve beer so I won't bother

      Pics! She is awaiting tune on wed! Summer here we come!!







      Comments are welcome. 5 months of work. Woot!

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      04-03-2012 09:45 PM #56
      Thanks!.

      Did base tune on the car today with a friend of mine. Got it go idle nicely again around 14.5-15afr once warm. Starts at each turn of the key! Super loud without the exhaust (just has dp as of now).

      Ended up grabbing a etx14 power sports battery from autoquest for $100. Same as the Dena ext14 just rebranded. Retrofitted the connectors and she works like a charm, even at 220cca.

      Used some spare stainless to make a makeshift wastegate dump tube. It will work for now! Not bad actually. Made it in 5min literally. Its actually a spare header pipe from a old cbr600rr project-pis can be found earlier in this thread.







      Street tune and video tomorro!

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      04-04-2012 11:41 AM #57
      If you have any issues with that battery, a full sive optima will fit turned 60*, the pos will sit just under the core support.. Just FYI
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      04-04-2012 08:49 PM #58
      Clean out your inbox, I cant give you the info that you wanted.
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      04-05-2012 12:34 AM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by Jones84 View Post
      Clean out your inbox, I cant give you the info that you wanted.
      Cleaned. Had some trouble finding the right USB driver for my USB to serial connection. Should have the map for u to review tomoro!

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      04-07-2012 04:27 PM #60
      Here she is. 75% tuned. Just need a working VE table dammit!




      Video of Idling after warm up + basic tune once I can find a way to load it!


      I will post my Ms file later on. The car under acceleration sputters and looses power for some reason. Has terrible power across the board. Ve table or something must be way off. Any takers? I was using auto tune for ve as well. Made little difference..I must be way off?

      I checked plugs. Bought new nkg iridium plugs gapped at .25. Check coil, distributor and wires...grrrr

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      04-07-2012 04:41 PM #61
      http://www.2shared.com/file/08mZADsw/CurrentTune.html

      my full tune file as of today..ve looks wayyyyyyy off.

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      04-08-2012 12:04 AM #62
      Made some adjustments to the table. Look better now. Here is a screen shot. Removed the accell enrichment that was set way to high I think causing the hicupping or so says the Ms manual. So I put it too 2500 kpa/s so I won't ever kick in. They said to tune ve to near perfection before using the inrichments. Test number 3 tomoro!

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      04-23-2012 04:07 PM #64
      75% tuned. Just need to tune in boost. Could not do so because it had the stock sachs clutch which dident hold squat in boost. Maybe 1spi..grr!

      ACT HD 4 puck Ceramic clutching going in on wednesday! Pumped tp be able to finally drive it to its full potential!

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      04-23-2012 05:09 PM #65
      I hope you got the sprung hub? If not its going to be ruff for street driving. I have the same clutch in my Drag car, It holds nice. Its never let me down.
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      04-24-2012 01:32 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Jones84 View Post
      I hope you got the sprung hub? If not its going to be ruff for street driving. I have the same clutch in my Drag car, It holds nice. Its never let me down.
      Sprung indeed. Do u believe in the clutch break in mumbo jumbo? I'm driving it home for 45min softly..letting the clutch cool for a few hr. Then going to tune in boost. IV never broken in a clutch in for 500miles, I think its a joke. A 45min-1hr stop go drive and cool cycle should be fiiine to set the flywheel and disk surface. Plus its ceramic..Psh!

      I hear these chatter a bit unless u rev them higher (3000rpm) out of first..?

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      04-24-2012 10:49 AM #67
      Yes break it in. You need to heat cycle it a few times. It wont slip in 1st or 2ct but it might in 4th or 5th. If it starts to slip just back off and hit it again. I did not have a issue with this one but i did a 200mile break in before i hit the strip. In my jetta i have a 6 Puck and it would slip in 3rd tell i went about 500miles. but after that its like a rock. You aren't pushing that much boost so I think you will be fine.
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      04-24-2012 11:29 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Jones84 View Post
      Yes break it in. You need to heat cycle it a few times. It wont slip in 1st or 2ct but it might in 4th or 5th. If it starts to slip just back off and hit it again. I did not have a issue with this one but i did a 200mile break in before i hit the strip. In my jetta i have a 6 Puck and it would slip in 3rd tell i went about 500miles. but after that its like a rock. You aren't pushing that much boost so I think you will be fine.
      I will be putting about 250km of stop and go on it before I go out and tune. Yea I wont even be close to the limit of this clutch. If it slips under 9psi there is issues!

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      04-24-2012 01:08 PM #69
      I run 20psi on a 12.1.1 comp 16v, with that clutch. I am sure it will hold. Plus its not like your car is heavy of anything.
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      04-24-2012 01:20 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Jones84 View Post
      I run 20psi on a 12.1.1 comp 16v, with that clutch. I am sure it will hold. Plus its not like your car is heavy of anything.
      Heavy on the wallet is what it is

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      04-24-2012 01:29 PM #71
      I dont know about you but keeping up with my boosted cars makes my walet light.
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    22. 04-25-2012 01:41 PM #72
      2: Jones84 here also...

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      04-26-2012 12:09 PM #73
      Got a shop to put on the clutch. What act dident tell me is that i needed a different pressure plate that has 2 dowels. My current flywheel only has one..So it was alligned incorrectly from the shop and did not work...was catching and would not disengage when the clutch was compressed.

      Woe is me. Cutting off the dowling will work correct? they wanted me to buy another pressure plate that is EXACTLY the same as the one i have with simply only one doweling hole instead of two...weak. They are only used as a guide and from what i know/have experienced they are not even needed.
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